Julius Jones on the 26 yard pass play...

Juke99

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Did anyone else think he was taking that one the length of the field? I figured he was gone...he had a crack in the defense when he broke toward the middle of the field.

I dunno but I think it was another example of him not being the RB he was last year...that in fact, the ankle...or the added weight...or both have taken away from that next gear he had last season.
 

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I don't think he is completely healthy so he doesn't have the burst that he had last year.
 

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I hate to be the pessimist here, but there was no way JJ was going to go for 60 on a screen pass.
 

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Juke99 said:
Did anyone else think he was taking that one the length of the field? I figured he was gone...he had a crack in the defense when he broke toward the middle of the field.

I dunno but I think it was another example of him not being the RB he was last year...that in fact, the ankle...or the added weight...or both have taken away from that next gear he had last season.

Actually both that play and the previous catch were mistakes by JJ. Had he gotten out of bounds both times we get 2 to 3 more plays. Certainly once he crossed the 50 he should have headed to the sidelines to get us a hail mary.

I'm just surprised he wasn't strongly advised to get to the sideline. A coaching
mistake I think.
 

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i dont know, i think the safeties had good position there. I saw him make a move and accelrate through a couple defenders and i thought maybe he would go, then the camera moved down the field and i saw the safeties and thought at that point maybe he could stiff arm or get around one but i didnt think he could just outrun them.
 

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I really don't fault him for not getting out of bounds on that one. He's got the ball with some room to run. He's probably got a better chance of getting in the end zone as a Hail Mary pass.

I don't think it was a lack of a second gear -- I think JJ was worn down. He spent a lot more time blocking that in previous games -- and he had a lot of touches running behind a line that wasn't giving him much help.
 

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Tripod said:
Actually both that play and the previous catch were mistakes by JJ. Had he gotten out of bounds both times we get 2 to 3 more plays. Certainly once he crossed the 50 he should have headed to the sidelines to get us a hail mary.

I'm just surprised he wasn't strongly advised to get to the sideline. A coaching
mistake I think.

That's not the play this thread is about. He was talking about the one in the third quarter. And no, I didn't think he was going to score on that one. Too many guys were downfield.

As far as Julius not getting out of bounds on the final drive, another killer on that drive was Bledsoe's 4-yard "scramble," which cost us a timeout. He had Witten open in the flat and could have passed to him, and he could have gotten out of bounds. Or Bledsoe could have thrown it away to stop the clock. That timeout would have come in handy after either one of Julius' catches.
 

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He should've ran out of bounds or tried to lateral the ball to someone else.

Oh well...it's over.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
That's not the play this thread is about. He was talking about the one in the third quarter. And no, I didn't think he was going to score on that one. Too many guys were downfield.

As far as Julius not getting out of bounds on the final drive, another killer on that drive was Bledsoe's 4-yard "scramble," which cost us a timeout. He had Witten open in the flat and could have passed to him, and he could have gotten out of bounds. Or Bledsoe could have thrown it away to stop the clock. That timeout would have come in handy after either one of Julius' catches.

I posted this after the game against Lions, that Bledsoe flat out misses open recievers udnerneath, and holds the ball too long for the long ball.

It has been that way since last 4-5 years I guess and it hasn't changed. As much as I hated Tom Donohue crowing about the real Bledsoe will show up at end the of season, I guess he might be right.

Well, I guess I will be reminded again on how OL is the reason Bledsoe plays bad by his fans :rolleyes: I guess I must have forgotten that not too many QBs can be successful even when they have great Protection :eek: Must have missed those QBs who failed when their OL gave plenty of protection and Recievers were open.

Sarcasm aside, seriously Bledsoe's slow feet and his constant look out for big plays is biggest reasons for OL play too. Like BP said couple of weeks ago, Pass protection is just not about OL blocking, they need help from the QB to make quick throws. Somone needs to watch Brady to see that definition. His OL is in shambles but he still manages to not to get sacked too often. I know, we are not supposed to compare Brady to Bledsoe.
 

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Juke99 said:
Did anyone else think he was taking that one the length of the field? I figured he was gone...he had a crack in the defense when he broke toward the middle of the field.

I dunno but I think it was another example of him not being the RB he was last year...that in fact, the ankle...or the added weight...or both have taken away from that next gear he had last season.


Like I told Hos yesterday, JuJo LOST weight in the offseason, he didn't gain any.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
That's not the play this thread is about. He was talking about the one in the third quarter. And no, I didn't think he was going to score on that one. Too many guys were downfield.

As far as Julius not getting out of bounds on the final drive, another killer on that drive was Bledsoe's 4-yard "scramble," which cost us a timeout. He had Witten open in the flat and could have passed to him, and he could have gotten out of bounds. Or Bledsoe could have thrown it away to stop the clock. That timeout would have come in handy after either one of Julius' catches.

That was the worst decision a QB could make in that circumstance.
 

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Juke99 said:
Did anyone else think he was taking that one the length of the field? I figured he was gone...he had a crack in the defense when he broke toward the middle of the field.

I dunno but I think it was another example of him not being the RB he was last year...that in fact, the ankle...or the added weight...or both have taken away from that next gear he had last season.
Im with ya, Juke.

Thought he was house.

There is definitely something amiss in JJ world these days.
Just hope it doesn't last.
 

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Rack said:
Like I told Hos yesterday, JuJo LOST weight in the offseason, he didn't gain any.
It was reported in TC that he added weight and bulked up his upper body.
 

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He bulked up- and his carrying the ball with both hands so much WILL slow you down.
that extra bulk not only takes some flexibility and quickness, it can also slow you down some. Add to that bad ankle, and he does not have the speed he had last year.
 

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Juke99 said:
Did anyone else think he was taking that one the length of the field? I figured he was gone...he had a crack in the defense when he broke toward the middle of the field.

I dunno but I think it was another example of him not being the RB he was last year...that in fact, the ankle...or the added weight...or both have taken away from that next gear he had last season.
Juke I commented on that play here yesterday. I was watching from behind the offense and I actually seen him burst through a arm tackle on the play right before the safety hammered him. That is the first time I seen that from him this year.

I also noticed on a running play in the 3rd,he had a running lane off of LA big rearend and he made it to the 2nd level. He then cut right and got tackled. He cuts left and he is gone for six. I miss emmitt's vision :)
 

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AdamJT13 said:
That's not the play this thread is about. He was talking about the one in the third quarter. And no, I didn't think he was going to score on that one. Too many guys were downfield.

As far as Julius not getting out of bounds on the final drive, another killer on that drive was Bledsoe's 4-yard "scramble," which cost us a timeout. He had Witten open in the flat and could have passed to him, and he could have gotten out of bounds. Or Bledsoe could have thrown it away to stop the clock. That timeout would have come in handy after either one of Julius' catches.

The more I read Adam's posts, the more I think Drew's weakness about looking downfield all the time becomes more and more apparent. I thought this was something the coaching staff was supposed to fix?
 

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burmafrd said:
He bulked up- and his carrying the ball with both hands so much WILL slow you down.
that extra bulk not only takes some flexibility and quickness, it can also slow you down some. Add to that bad ankle, and he does not have the speed he had last year.
Stop with the bulked up nonsense slowing him down,what did he add 6 pounds of muscle. It's not like he was eating burgers to put that weight on. You are correct saying the 2 hands around the ball is messing him up. He has no balance then, and cant, cut.
 

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The flexibillty you need to not only juke and dodge but to RUN fluently can be affected by extra bulk- it also can move your center of gravity and affect your balance. That is what I think part of the problem is.
 
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