Jumbotron scenario

[Muhast]

So the ruling is if a ball hits the board the play is re-played and the clock is re-set....


Say a team is down in the game and trying to score on a last ditch effort. They have the ball on the 40 yard line or so with 8 seconds left. Instead of throwing the ball away and wasting the down, the qb launches the ball as high as he can and hits the jumbotron. As a result they replay the down and have another shot with the time re-set.

Board is 90 feet up, or 30 yards. I'd bet a qb could hit it easily if he tried. That would be a smart thing to do in this scenario. The ruling doesn't say it has to be on a punt, it just says if a ball hits the skycam/jumbotron or anything else.


Possible? Likely?

 

[xpistofer]

So the ruling is if a ball hits the board the play is re-played and the clock is re-set....


Say a team is down in the game and trying to score on a last ditch effort. They have the ball on the 40 yard line or so with 8 seconds left. Instead of throwing the ball away and wasting the down, the qb launches the ball as high as he can and hits the jumbotron. As a result they replay the down and have another shot with the time re-set.

Board is 90 feet up, or 30 yards. I'd bet a qb could hit it easily if he tried. That would be a smart thing to do in this scenario. The ruling doesn't say it has to be on a punt, it just says if a ball hits the skycam/jumbotron or anything else.


Possible? Likely?

ummm....why wouldn't he just spike the ball? or am I missing something..

edit: 4th down...gotcha...

in that case, possible but unlikely...

 

[zrinkill]

I suppose he means on 4th down

 

[Danny White]

I can just picture a QB trying to do that, coming up short, and end up throwing a rainbow INT.

 

[Cowboys22]

This has been brought up numerous times already. It will simply have to be dealt with after the first QB tries it. It will be obvious so I can see a future rule making intentionally hitting the board with a thrown pass intentional grounding and loss of down. Problem solved.

 

[BrassCowboy]

So the ruling is if a ball hits the board the play is re-played and the clock is re-set....


Say a team is down in the game and trying to score on a last ditch effort. They have the ball on the 40 yard line or so with 8 seconds left. Instead of throwing the ball away and wasting the down, the qb launches the ball as high as he can and hits the jumbotron. As a result they replay the down and have another shot with the time re-set.

Board is 90 feet up, or 30 yards. I'd bet a qb could hit it easily if he tried. That would be a smart thing to do in this scenario. The ruling doesn't say it has to be on a punt, it just says if a ball hits the skycam/jumbotron or anything else.


Possible? Likely?

intentional grounding penalty

 

[CliffnDallas]

I suppose he means on 4th down

Even if the clock is reset. It would still be 4th down in the same spot. Thinking about this is like tilting at windmills.

 

[speedkilz88]

The rule is for punts, I would think even if a qb actually could hit it, that it would be ruled an incomplete pass. But I agree with Danny White, that there would be too much chance of a up for grabs interception for anyone to try that since it would be very difficult to throw the ball that high during a play.

 

[Muhast]

The rule is for punts, I would think even if a qb actually could hit it, that it would be ruled an incomplete pass. But I agree with Danny White, that there would be too much chance of a up for grabs interception for anyone to try that since it would be very difficult to throw the ball that high during a play.

a quarterback that throws 60 yards or so more long would be able to hit a jumbotron 30 yards up. It's a different type of throw, but I'd think almost every qb could hit it if he tried. And the ruling doesn't say punts, it says if the ball hits it.

"A release Friday said that any ball that hits the video board, supporting wires, sky cam or other object will be declared dead and the down replayed from the previous spot."

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2009...las-over-field-scoreboard/UPI-25891251476574/

I have little doubt this scenario will eventually occur. I'm sure it will quickly be changed. But as of now, it is legal.

 

[links18]

Another scenario: The ball hits the jumbotron, but the refs on the field don't see it. There is supposed to be a booth review, but--the ruling states--if there is no booth review a coach an launch a challenge. Let's say the ball hits the jumbotron benefiting the receiving team. The punting team coach waits for the booth review, but it seems like no booth review is coming. The receiving team hurries in their offense to snap the ball. At what point does the punting team coach risk a challenge or continue to wait on the booth review? This ruling ads an element to challenges and reviews that was not there before.

 

[Primetime42]

a quarterback that throws 60 yards or so more long would be able to hit a jumbotron 30 yards up. It's a different type of throw, but I'd think almost every qb could hit it if he tried. And the ruling doesn't say punts, it says if the ball hits it.

"A release Friday said that any ball that hits the video board, supporting wires, sky cam or other object will be declared dead and the down replayed from the previous spot."

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2009...las-over-field-scoreboard/UPI-25891251476574/

I have little doubt this scenario will eventually occur. I'm sure it will quickly be changed. But as of now, it is legal.

Far as I know, the rule only affects punts.

I would suggest to the league that if a QB tries that, it's a delay of game penalty.

Loss of down. Game over.

 

[rexrobinson]

I can just picture a QB trying to do that, coming up short, and end up throwing a rainbow INT.

Man that would be hilarious.

 

[speedkilz88]

a quarterback that throws 60 yards or so more long would be able to hit a jumbotron 30 yards up. It's a different type of throw, but I'd think almost every qb could hit it if he tried. And the ruling doesn't say punts, it says if the ball hits it.

"A release Friday said that any ball that hits the video board, supporting wires, sky cam or other object will be declared dead and the down replayed from the previous spot."

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2009...las-over-field-scoreboard/UPI-25891251476574/

I have little doubt this scenario will eventually occur. I'm sure it will quickly be changed. But as of now, it is legal.

It's a lot harder than you think with defensive players chasing you down. Even if it was possible and the refs ruled it like you think then they would change the rules right after that.

 

[NinePointOh]

Throwing the ball 30 yards high is different than throwing it 30 yards downfield, because you're working against gravity. I'm actually not sure even an NFL quarterback could hit the video board if they tried.

According to this blog, the typical initial speed of a thrown football is 20 m/s. Now, to see how high the maximum height the ball can travel with that velocity, calculate the height when the angle of trajectory is perfectly straight up at 90°. It'd go less than 20.4 meters high -- fewer than 67 feet up, far short of the video board.

And that's a perfectly straight shot up, without factoring in any atmospheric drag, wind currents, or the likelihood that a quarterback could still accomplish 20 m/s even with the vastly unconventional mechanics associated with throwing straight up at a 90° angle.

 

[Angus]

This has been brought up numerous times already. It will simply have to be dealt with after the first QB tries it. It will be obvious so I can see a future rule making intentionally hitting the board with a thrown pass intentional grounding and loss of down. Problem solved.

An adult in the house!

Good post.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Far as I know, the rule only affects punts.

I would suggest to the league that if a QB tries that, it's a delay of game penalty.

Loss of down. Game over.

I have to agree, I would almost guarantee that this scenario will NEVER happen as a punter who does it purposely as the tennessee guy did is an idiot, but a qb who does it is an absolute baffoon!!

Either delay of game or intentional grounding which would result in penalty and 10 seconds taken off the clock.

 

[NinePointOh]

It's a moot point anyway, considering the initial velocity required to propel the ball that high even without factoring in atmospheric drag and wind currents, and even if you could somehow throw it straight up at a perfect 90° angle. It's virtually physically impossible for a human being to do, especially without injuring yourself.

30 yards straight up is very different from 50 yards downfield in terms of ballistic trajectory.

 

[lurkercowboy]

I have to agree, I would almost guarantee that this scenario will NEVER happen as a punter who does it purposely as the tennessee guy did is an idiot, but a qb who does it is an absolute baffoon!!

Either delay of game or intentional grounding which would result in penalty and 10 seconds taken off the clock.

LOL at the image of a baffoon QB. Imagine the QB running around on the last play of the game, being chased and trying to look downfield. The clock reaches zero and, seeing no one open, he rears back and throws the ball straight up.

 

[RainMan]

Far as I know, the rule only affects punts.

I would suggest to the league that if a QB tries that, it's a delay of game penalty.

Loss of down. Game over.

I'm pretty sure Peter King addressed this scenario earlier this week, and said that a pass that hits it would also result in a replayed down.

 

[Nightman]

I have heard this scenario from others on different sites and I never took it seriously. First I don't think it's a very good idea to begin with. When does a QB 'decide' that a hail Mary isn't open? Secondly, I doubt anyone could hit it, even if they were dumb enough to try it.

It's all much ado about nothing, except to the Cowboy and JJ haters.