June 1st is three days away. Do you make a play for Kaepernick?

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The guy had a 90 QB rating and his QBR suggested he was above average last year.

How often does a 29 year old QB who had lead a team to the superbowl with that kind of prior year resume remain unable to get work?

This is about politics and nothing else.
This. However, people love to play ignorant when it is convenient. It is the worst kind of ignorance.
 

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The guy had a 90 QB rating and his QBR suggested he was above average last year.

How often does a 29 year old QB who had lead a team to the superbowl with that kind of prior year resume remain unable to get work?

This is about politics and nothing else.
Certainly part of it. No doubt

Still, his QBR over the last 2 years is 30th out of 32 though.
 

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The guy had a 90 QB rating and his QBR suggested he was above average last year.

How often does a 29 year old QB who had lead a team to the superbowl with that kind of prior year resume remain unable to get work?

This is about politics and nothing else.

The owners are all about the $$$. And if Kap hurts the bottom line that is the only and greatest excuse you need. You think Jerry should risk being "Americas Team " for Kap? LOL, get out of here with that craziness.
 

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I am not an expert. Nor did i stay at the Holiday Inn last night.

But I see nothing in Moore that allows me to believe he could win a game against a really good college team.
 

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Sure, Cooper Rush is an interesting practice squad prospect, but we're talking about what happens if Dak goes down?
There was the same discussion one year ago about.....what happens if Romo goes down. Have to trust in Moore.
 

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The guy had a 90 QB rating and his QBR suggested he was above average last year.

How often does a 29 year old QB who had lead a team to the superbowl with that kind of prior year resume remain unable to get work?

This is about politics and nothing else.
His highest QBR was 76.4 in 2011 (3 games), followed by 75.3 in '12 (16 games). After that he was always in the 60s. Last year he had a 55.5 QBR (12 games). Every year his stats have gone downhill.

Sanchez's QBR in Philly was 88.4 & 80.7. We saw how good he was our last game - 1 year later.

I think economics & politics is definitely involved, but he hasn't shown anything in years.
 

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I surmise that he's a "Black Panther" communist and his deeds speak louder than words. He is to be shunned and blackballed.

There are plenty of Communists and BLM guys that are principled and intelligent. Kaepernick isn't one of them, he is a self-absorbed clown that isn't worth the time or money to bring on for average QB skills.

We have a starting QB that is the textbook definition of leadership and class. We aren't going to pay a lot of money to have a backup that is the polar opposite of that.
 

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His highest QBR was 76.4 in 2011 (3 games), followed by 75.3 in '12 (16 games). After that he was always in the 60s. Last year he had a 55.5 QBR (12 games). Every year his stats have gone downhill..

His one bright patch was running a gimmick offense that was quickly figured out. Saying Kaepernick "lead a team to the Super Bowl" is like saying Lucky Whitehead "lead the Cowboys to the playoffs" last year.
 

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If we are looking at Daryl Washington, Kaep should be brought in for a tryout. The irony is so thick.
I'm not advocating Washington, but it's worth pointing out that the two cases have little in common.

--Player's role: QB is a team leader by default...so that alone makes it entirely different right off the bat
--Cost: you could get 5 Daryl Washington's for what Kap is supposedly asking.
--Going forward: Washington paid a price of 3 year suspension and supposedly will show up a new man. While Kap did nothing suspendable, he would show up the very same person. I'll leave up to others to decide if they like it or not...but those that don't, still won't, while those that hated what Washington did (everyone, I assume) may think he's different now.

Just saying. totally apples and oranges here.
 
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Can't answer fully for him, but some would have these reasons to begin with
1) wore socks in uniform that depicted cops as pigs
2) his insistence on wearing everything Malcolm X (someone who can be as racist and hatefully devisive as they get)
3) his vast praise of the murderer Castro

just for starters.

I get why some were not so pleased. It's up to the individual on how to take it, I guess.
yeah, I have no real position on him playing for Dallas one way or another. Initially I thought he could be a serviceable option and I have no issue with his protest. But as of now I'm cool on it due to our own fan bases reactions. rather not deal with the headache. As far as other's opinions... it is what it is. Like I said, everyone is entitled to FEEL how they feel, but your feelings can't rewrite someone else's intentions, which is one of my biggest issues. It's circular logic and having a wife it's one of the biggest crocks of ish in life lol.

me: that's not at all what I said, OR meant ... 100%

wife: but that's how I took it and how I feel.

It's sad that Kaepernick is making things worse and is likely causing more deaths by helping to get people worked up into a frenzy.

People are very misguided on the entire issue because of the media. The media reports on the stories that get people worked up and ignore other stories.

Police are not the real problem if you review the statistics.

If you really dig into the statistics, the problem really comes down to money. Low Income people are involved in more violent crime. People involved in violent crime are more likely to be killed by police.

Blacks have lower incomes, lower home ownership rates, higher unemployment and higher poverty rates than both Hispanics and Whites.

Household Wealth is an even bigger problem than income. Blacks have far less household Wealth than their average incomes while Whites have more Wealth than their average incomes.

The bottom line is that if Kaepernick wants to help the situation, then he would save more lives by donating all of his money than by protesting.
 

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The bottom line is that if Kaepernick wants to help the situation, then he would save more lives by donating all of his money than by protesting.

And Kaepernick didn't blame the police at issue or even all police. He blamed the entire United States.

At a time when he had already been paid 40 Million he hadn't donated a penny to the families of people like Walter Scott or Tamir Rice. Instead he spent his money on Fidel Castro T-Shirts, who by a funny coinky-dink took all the Colin Kaepernicks of Cuba and shot them in the head.
 

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And Kaepernick didn't blame the police at issue or even all police. He blamed the entire United States.

At a time when he had already been paid 40 Million he hadn't donated a penny to the families of people like Walter Scott or Tamir Rice. Instead he spent his money on Fidel Castro T-Shirts, who by a funny coinky-dink took all the Colin Kaepernicks of Cuba and shot them in the head.
Comically sad on how ironic that was.

Hard to get much more repressive than Castro.
:laugh:
 

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His highest QBR was 76.4 in 2011 (3 games), followed by 75.3 in '12 (16 games). After that he was always in the 60s. Last year he had a 55.5 QBR (12 games). Every year his stats have gone downhill.

Sanchez's QBR in Philly was 88.4 & 80.7. We saw how good he was our last game - 1 year later.

I think economics & politics is definitely involved, but he hasn't shown anything in years.
He has shown that he is probably in the top tier of backup qbs. That's what this discussion is about. Not whether he should be starting which is the argument you're trying to make.

The fact of the matter is that he had a 91 QB rating last year and his QBR of 56 shows he's an above average qb to date. How many backup qbs in the NFL right now would you stake something significant that they could hit those same numbers?

The answer is you could count them on one hand with fingers to spare.
 
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