Just a Comment; Gregory Related

Kaiser

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Something tells me when players start missing anywhere from 1/4 to the entire season for weed, that'll change.

Bottom line is that it takes guys off the field and a dude on the bench is useless.

Doesn't the NBA not test for weed? I could be wrong but I thought they didn't.

I agree on your point that the issue is his decision making. If someone shows up for a job interview and says they smoke more than the guys in Cypress Hill, the concern is that they are really going off the deep end once the interview is over and they get the job.
 

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It may be treated like alcohol at some point, but that too got a player suspended last year. Denver punter or kicker.

Everyone knows that any substance in excess is stupid. Being accepted by any of the leagues won't prevent the idiots from going overboard and ending up in the substance abuse program.

I'm just talking about staying off the hard prescription pain killers. They are just as hard to kick as heroin. Weed is not as physically addictive or destructive.
 

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I'm just talking about staying off the hard prescription pain killers. They are just as hard to kick as heroin. Weed is not as physically addictive or destructive.

Sure, but I doubt the league is anymore more eager to have players self medicate chronic injuries than they would be to have players seek medically supervised treatment.

They aren't going to open the floodgates to using weed as a long term pain solution because it would submarine their lawsuits regarding players playing hurt and risking their bodies.
 

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Sure, but I doubt the league is anymore more eager to have players self medicate chronic injuries than they would be to have players seek medically supervised treatment.

They aren't going to open the floodgates to using weed as a long term pain solution because it would submarine their lawsuits regarding players playing hurt and risking their bodies.

Not talking about endorsing it, just looking the other way. Which they already do a lot. Weed is still mainly illegal so they have to ban it. But they don't ban alcohol until someone is in the program or commits a crime.

But they have already raised the thresholds for a positive test and extended the warning and fines before suspensions kick in. It now takes 4 failed tests to get a 4 game suspension.
 

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Sure, but I doubt the league is anymore more eager to have players self medicate chronic injuries than they would be to have players seek medically supervised treatment.

They aren't going to open the floodgates to using weed as a long term pain solution because it would submarine their lawsuits regarding players playing hurt and risking their bodies.

Everyone else knows what is best for you.
 

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lol, yes, self medicating is always a good option. and unless you are a physician who has treated him, you don't know if ay of this is true. maybe the issues he's having is a result of......smoking weed?

I was making a sound observation. There was a tweet about his disorder and he takes weed to alleviate his pains.
Thus your right I don't know. But making sound observations to rumors about his mental disease and I believe that the Cowboys know about this as well and are trying to find ways to solve this issue.
 

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Actully 99% of what I'm reading now is that he doesn't have a weed issue but a bipolar/mental issue that weed helps. This the team will be looking to help him with his mental health long term

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Source told me last night: Randy Gregory weed talk is a 'mask' for a true 'emotional disorder.' #Cowboysare aware. @1053thefan

That was my bigger concern. My sister is bi-polar. Weed is the best medication for her (sad but true).

The biggest problem that comes from that disorder from a strictly football perspective is inconsistency.

One day you want to play football and rip QB's heads off. The next you are just apathetic and don't care. I can't count on that.

And for the disorder itself, it's not incredibly hard to manage. But from what I've found, not many really want to manage it. It's like living with a high, when once corrected through medication is a buzzkill.
 

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Like cigarettes and alcohol for anxiety. .. so means you have an anxiety disorder if you eat too much when you're nervous? Or is that a mental problem if you drink more than two cups of bean juice a day.
 

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Like cigarettes and alcohol for anxiety. .. so means you have an anxiety disorder if you eat too much when you're nervous? Or is that a mental problem if you drink more than two cups of bean juice a day.

Anxiety disorders are a real thing.
 

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Like cigarettes and alcohol for anxiety. .. so means you have an anxiety disorder if you eat too much when you're nervous? Or is that a mental problem if you drink more than two cups of bean juice a day.

Anxiety is a pain. Like Bipolar(ism?), there seems to be real functions for them when we were walking the plains with spears.

Being bipolar was thought to have helped primitive man be aggressive/bordeline fearless when hunting. And anxiety, I suppose, was useful for keeping people moving and not being easily hunted... Or maybe a result of sedentary lifestyle not causing us to move enough (exercise is a good natural cure for my gf's anxiety).

But both are very real and very tough to deal with.

And as I mentioned a few posts up, MJ is a good cure for my sister's bipolar. Being Mellowed out without feeling numb actually allows her to function somewhat ''normally". I can really see that for Gregory and I can really see it being a problem too.
 

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Likely wasn't legal were he smoked it, like Nebraska where he went to school, or Indiana where he's from as well as the site of the combine Unlikely, but that isn't the point. When you draft someone in either day 1 or 2, you want football to be a priority in their life. Maybe not #1, because some people will prioritize God or family first, which is fine, but you typically want football to rank above frivolous things like money or getting high. To risk your football career over marijuana, shows that football isn't a high enough priority for you. To test positive at the combine at least raises the question of does this guys prioritize getting high or football, which is not good. He's addicted to marijuana, and that's the best conclusion that you can come to for someone to test positive when they know they are getting tested on a certain date. Either that or he can't count to 30 or was absent the day they taught him how to use a calendar in kindergarten. :facepalm:

This post is uninformed at best. He has a mental health issue that we can only assume is real. Marijuana helps him and there is evidence to back this up.

Addicted to marijuana? I guess you just watched the reefer madness PSA.

You deducted what his priorities are based on a failed drug test not knowing his circumstances. That's not judgmental or pompous at all.
 
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Until it is removed from NFL's testing then it does not matter if it is legal in most States. If it is against NFL's policy then that is all that matters.

It's unfortunate, but I do agree.





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We are talking about weed here..it's not like he robbed a liquor store or beat the hell out of his wife.

Relax..Hardy in my opinion is the loose cannon.

Why Ike, whatever do you mean?
 

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The conversation probably went like this:

Gregory's place

Gregory's friends: "Randy, what you doing lighting up right before the combine?"

Gregory: "Don't sweat it, man. I am too good. They want me to sack quarterbacks, they are going to have to put up with me getting high. And they are going to pay me too!"

Dallas draft room:

Garrett: "He's good, but he makes bad decisions."

Jerry: "Don't sweat it, Red. He is very good. We want him to sack quarterbacks, so we are going to have to put up with a few character issues. I am willing to pay him too!"
 

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I'm tired of seeing it all over the internet and hearing it all over the radio. And this coming from someone who has never smoked weed in my life.

Marijuana is legal in a ton of places. In a few years it will probably be legal everywhere. It's already being taken out of the drug testing policies in corporate America. It's safer than alcohol and tobacco. It's also safer than all these guys being hooked on pain medicine.

Enough already with Randy Gregory is a drug addict, or a low life thug because he likes to smoke weed. Do you guys know the percentage of guys in the NFL, NBA, and NCAA who smoke weed. 90 % of the NFL is not in the drug program. Once they test a day or two before training camp, they never have to test again that year. These guys smoke weed, like we drink water. GET OVER IT ...

Ok, well then how about he is just stupid enough to risk his career over smoking pot?

That says enough about him right there. He may be a great football player but he does not make good life decisions which I am pretty sure over the long run will effect his career.
 

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This post is uninformed at best. He has a mental health issue that we can only assume is real. Marijuana helps him and there is evidence to back this up.

Evidence like him denying he he has a mental health disorder?

You deducted what his priorities are based on a failed drug test not knowing his circumstances. That's not judgmental or pompous at all.

I questioned what his priorities are, big difference
 

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As an old-timer, I can't help but think of Roy Tarpley. All-World talent squandered because he couldn't stay clean.
 

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I'm tired of seeing it all over the internet and hearing it all over the radio. And this coming from someone who has never smoked weed in my life.

Marijuana is legal in a ton of places. In a few years it will probably be legal everywhere. It's already being taken out of the drug testing policies in corporate America. It's safer than alcohol and tobacco. It's also safer than all these guys being hooked on pain medicine.

Enough already with Randy Gregory is a drug addict, or a low life thug because he likes to smoke weed. Do you guys know the percentage of guys in the NFL, NBA, and NCAA who smoke weed. 90 % of the NFL is not in the drug program. Once they test a day or two before training camp, they never have to test again that year. These guys smoke weed, like we drink water. GET OVER IT ...

Except weed is illegal at his desired place of employment.

It shows very bad decision making and immaturity to smoke it knowing this.

Hopefully we can wrap our hands around this guy and help him.
 

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I'm tired of seeing it all over the internet and hearing it all over the radio. And this coming from someone who has never smoked weed in my life.

Marijuana is legal in a ton of places. In a few years it will probably be legal everywhere. It's already being taken out of the drug testing policies in corporate America. It's safer than alcohol and tobacco. It's also safer than all these guys being hooked on pain medicine.

Enough already with Randy Gregory is a drug addict, or a low life thug because he likes to smoke weed. Do you guys know the percentage of guys in the NFL, NBA, and NCAA who smoke weed. 90 % of the NFL is not in the drug program. Once they test a day or two before training camp, they never have to test again that year. These guys smoke weed, like we drink water. GET OVER IT ...

Agree. Another debate I recuse myself from. It's so self righteous and irrelevant until it's relevant.
 
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