Just Draft Zeke!

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I probably would take Zeke. I normally wouldn't be in favor of a RB this high, but since the QB's will be gone and the rest of the prospects at this point are bleh, I'd take Elliot.

But I think it'll be Ramsey, and if he's gone, then one of the two DL (Bosa or Buckner).
 

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Just like they did last year, right? When despite having no quarterback or receiver to speak of, this offensive line helped a broken down bust, with one foot out of the league, become the league's #4 rusher. "This team clearly needs an elite back to function".

:lmao:



#4 running back in 2015, plus a former 1,600 yard back added.

Yep, cupboard is bare, whatever will we do?

Running for a bunch of garbage yards in meaningless games at the end of the season.

Gee, glad you were so impressed. I'll bet you have posters of Jeff George on your wall.

Check mate, buddy. This is like dunking on the 8-foot goals.
 

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Alabama running backs don't get touched for five yards, and they're not asked to do ANYTHING in the passing game. That's why Alabama backs are so average in the NFL.

Mark Ingram. Eddie Lacy. Trent Richardson.

I expect Derrick Henry to be just one of those guys.

As opposed to Ezekiel Elliott, who had bigger holes than any running back in college football behind arguably the best offensive line in the nation?

:lmao:

If that's the case, just keep McFadden and don't bother.

No problem with that. As long as I'm not wasting the #4 overall pick to overpay a rookie I can do just fine without.

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As opposed to Ezekiel Elliott, who had bigger holes than any running back in college football behind arguably the best offensive line in the nation?

:lmao:

While providing excellent pass protection, lead blocking on sweeps, catching the ball out of the backfield, and NEVER FUMBLING ONCE.

Keep trying. I feel like Patrick Ewing in a high school game.
 

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The fact that you are obsessed with guaranteed money on 20-year-old running backs is truly hilarious. This team clearly needs an elite back to function as built offensively.

I want an Emmitt Smith for this new version of the 90s offensive line. Right now we've got a couple of Ford Tauruses running on a Ferrari chassis. It has its limitations.

It's not obsessing. It's actually doing some critical thinking and understanding what the Cowboys have said and how they've conducted business they last few years with regards to the TB position.

The team does not CLEARLY need an elite TB to function. In fact, given the assets put into the OL, it's the exact opposite more than likely. That they can function as a ground based offense with good TBs simply because of the fact that they have an elite OL. An OL that turned a scrap heap loser in McFadden into a 1,000 yard rusher in just 12 starts with no threat of a legit passing attack.

So again, another stretching of reality by you in the ever growing quest to make people fall in love with Elliott as you have.
 

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Running for a bunch of garbage yards in meaningless games at the end of the season.

Gee, glad you were so impressed. I'll bet you have posters of Jeff George on your wall.

Check mate, buddy. This is like dunking on the 8-foot goals.[/quote]

You'd like to think so, even while you're getting your clock cleaned.

Between me and Sydia, it's not even fair.

You've got nothing, you've shown nothing, you've proven nothing.

But you keep claiming some 'victory'. Maybe you're too punch drunk from the intellectual beat down you've received to notice?

Laughing stock.

:laugh:
 

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It's not obsessing. It's actually doing some critical thinking and understanding what the Cowboys have said and how they've conducted business they last few years with regards to the TB position.

The team does not CLEARLY need an elite TB to function. In fact, given the assets put into the OL, it's the exact opposite more than likely. That they can function as a ground based offense with good TBs simply because of the fact that they have an elite OL. An OL that turned a scrap heap loser in McFadden into a 1,000 yard rusher in just 12 starts with no threat of a legit passing attack.

So again, another stretching of reality by you in the ever growing quest to make people fall in love with Elliott as you have.

I want an identity that McFadden can't give Dallas. That's all. Elliott can, I truly believe.

Bosa and Ramsey are just parts that will make no difference at all next year.
 

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Running for a bunch of garbage yards in meaningless games at the end of the season.

Gee, glad you were so impressed. I'll bet you have posters of Jeff George on your wall.

Check mate, buddy. This is like dunking on the 8-foot goals.[/quote]

You'd like to think so, even while you're getting your clock cleaned.

Between me and Sydia, it's not even fair.

You've got nothing, you've shown nothing, you've proven nothing.

But you keep claiming some 'victory'. Maybe you're too punch drunk from the intellectual beat down you've received to notice?

Laughing stock.

:laugh:[/quote]

You can't even quote. LOL
 

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While providing excellent pass protection, lead blocking on sweeps, catching the ball out of the backfield, and NEVER FUMBLING ONCE.

Keep trying. I feel like Patrick Ewing in a high school game.

Keep trying yourself.

Elliott has fumbled in college. That point about him never fumbling at OSU was proven false on the DraftZone.
 

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I addressed it.

Yes, you get Bosa at a mid-level rate while you wait for him to get good by the time Romo retires. In the meantime, he's just another Lawrence or Gregory trying to get raise his game to just an average NFL level. Defensive ends take time, as do safeties.

So you get a "bargain" at the position on a guy who makes ZERO impact. Or, you can pay a premium for a guy who is an elite player four months from now.

So you know Elliott is a sure fire, elite player right from the get go?
 

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So, who is better on this list than Zeke?

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2017RB.php

Even if any of those backs prove to be of the same caliber, are we going to be guaranteed the ability to draft one who's at least as good or better than Zeke?

We have a chance to take Zeke now, we might not have a chance to sniff a RB next year who even comes close... Why pin our hopes on tomorrow, when we're trying to win the SB now?!
 

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Keep trying yourself.

Elliott has fumbled in college. That point about him never fumbling at OSU was proven false on the DraftZone.

He didn't as a senior, and if he did before that, maybe once.

Demarco Murray fumbled twice this morning before breakfast, and McFadden probably did, too. Not sure what Morris' history is on that.
 

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So you know Elliott is a sure fire, elite player right from the get go?

I'm infinitely more sure about that than I am Bosa and Ramsey.

I'd be OK with Ramsey, but Bosa smells like Greg Ellis to me. That is not a #4 pick.
 

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I usually lean towards defense in the 1st round but this year is different. We have a chance in drafting a stud at RB for years to come. If we go defense we won't see a difference this season, if we draft Zeke @ 4 or wherever, it's an instant upgrade in this offense. There were games last season where we needed that go to RB to move the chains. I'd do it.
 

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I addressed it.

Yes, you get Bosa at a mid-level rate while you wait for him to get good by the time Romo retires. In the meantime, he's just another Lawrence or Gregory trying to get raise his game to just an average NFL level. Defensive ends take time, as do safeties.

So you get a "bargain" at the position on a guy who makes ZERO impact. Or, you can pay a premium for a guy who is an elite player four months from now.

What does it take for any running back to be "an elite player four months from now" behind this offensive line? The answer is not much. The same answer to the question of what level of investment is needed. Not much.
 

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No, what's "ridiculous" is this 'one of a kind', 'greatest back ever' garbage I keep seeing over and over and over.

Ezekiel Elliott is not this 'all time great', 'class by himself' running back.

At least post something with substance. You make no real point here RE his abilities vs anybody else, nor do you offer anything but a pet peve of yours.
 

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While providing excellent pass protection, lead blocking on sweeps, catching the ball out of the backfield, and NEVER FUMBLING ONCE.

Keep trying. I feel like Patrick Ewing in a high school game.

Practice what you preach! Actually do your homework before making false claims about a player "never fumbling once".

When you're finished doing that, I suggest you tuck tail and run.

:facepalm:
 

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I probably would take Zeke. I normally wouldn't be in favor of a RB this high, but since the QB's will be gone and the rest of the prospects at this point are bleh, I'd take Elliot.

But I think it'll be Ramsey, and if he's gone, then one of the two DL (Bosa or Buckner).

I think it's Ramsey or Zeke for sure.

Bosa or Buckner would be trade back options.
 

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So, who is better on this list than Zeke?

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2017RB.php

Even if any of those backs prove to be of the same caliber, are we going to be guaranteed the ability to draft one who's at least as good or better than Zeke?

We have a chance to take Zeke now, we might not have a chance to sniff a RB next year who even comes close... Why pin our hopes on tomorrow, when we're trying to win the SB now?!

Wait a minute. You think that this team has a chance to win a Super Bowl? Because of this guy?

We're done here..

:lmao:
 

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It's not obsessing. It's actually doing some critical thinking and understanding what the Cowboys have said and how they've conducted business they last few years with regards to the TB position.

The team does not CLEARLY need an elite TB to function. In fact, given the assets put into the OL, it's the exact opposite more than likely. That they can function as a ground based offense with good TBs simply because of the fact that they have an elite OL. An OL that turned a scrap heap loser in McFadden into a 1,000 yard rusher in just 12 starts with no threat of a legit passing attack.

So again, another stretching of reality by you in the ever growing quest to make people fall in love with Elliott as you have.



We need an elite QB to function. Not a RB.
 
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