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Just got a delivery of a crate of Wrexham Lager, Welsh beer, today and the wife is round having a bottle of wine in her friends garden so put the wee man to bed and sitting in the garden with a couple of cold ones watching football/soccer and a generous measure of rum and coke.
It's not a bad life!

Anyone got any obscure beer or other drink recommendations we should all look out for?

To be honest I know there's a few this side of the Atlantic so that's going to be more useful to me but the in laws are over there so if I'm armed with a list to try next time I'm over that's fine by me :)
 
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Just got a delivery of a crate of Wrexham Lager, Welsh beer, today and the wife is round having a bottle of wine in her friends garden so put the wee man to bed and sitting in the garden with a couple of cold ones watching football/soccer and a generous measure of rum and coke.
It's not a bad life!

Anyone got any obscure beer or other drink recommendations we should all look out for?

To be honest I know there's a few this side of the Atlantic so that's going to be more useful to me but the in laws are over there so if I'm armed with a list to try next time I'm over that's fine by me :)
Soccer??? Lol!!! Sorry, I'm from Texas. Try El Chingon Craft beer if you get to South Texas. That's about the only beer I know, other than the regular crap. more of a Johnnie Walker Black or Grey Goose nowadays. Salud!
 
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Soccer??? Lol!!! Sorry, I'm from Texas. Try El Chingon Craft beer if you get to South Texas. That's about the only beer I know, other than the regular crap. more of a Johnnie Walker Black or Grey Goose nowadays. Salud!
Toss the Grey Goose and pick up some Chopin. Actually, any cheap Potato vodka (even $10 bottles) will whoop the hell out of grain vodka. Potato vodka is just naturally smoother than grain vodka. (though, many people use vodka as an ingredient in mix drinks and then it doesn't matter cause the smoothness is covered up. Might as well buy the cheap **** in that case.

So, even if you don't want to shell out for Chopin, grab a cheap bottle of potato vodka and compare it to your Grey Goose.

There is one grain vodka that comes close to potato vodka's smooth profile, but I will not mention the name here. It's a known name and many like it, but they don't market as a top end brand like Grey Goose, Kettle One (which is probably the worst of the bunch) and several others.

Anyhow, Enjoy!
 

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Just got a delivery of a crate of Wrexham Lager, Welsh beer, today and the wife is round having a bottle of wine in her friends garden so put the wee man to bed and sitting in the garden with a couple of cold ones watching football/soccer and a generous measure of rum and coke.
It's not a bad life!

Anyone got any obscure beer or other drink recommendations we should all look out for?

To be honest I know there's a few this side of the Atlantic so that's going to be more useful to me but the in laws are over there so if I'm armed with a list to try next time I'm over that's fine by me :)
I used to be a big beer nerd, kind of still am but there are so many breweries nowadays, a lot of them crap, that I haven’t been able to keep up with them.

What state do your in laws live in? What styles of beer do you like?
 

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Toss the Grey Goose and pick up some Chopin. Actually, any cheap Potato vodka (even $10 bottles) will whoop the hell out of grain vodka. Potato vodka is just naturally smoother than grain vodka. (though, many people use vodka as an ingredient in mix drinks and then it doesn't matter cause the smoothness is covered up. Might as well buy the cheap **** in that case.

So, even if you don't want to shell out for Chopin, grab a cheap bottle of potato vodka and compare it to your Grey Goose.

There is one grain vodka that comes close to potato vodka's smooth profile, but I will not mention the name here. It's a known name and many like it, but they don't market as a top end brand like Grey Goose, Kettle One (which is probably the worst of the bunch) and several others.

Anyhow, Enjoy!
Vodka is like wine in the regard the connection to cost does not equal quality. Vodka is the primary choice of female drinkers, according to research, and therefore "designer" vodkas are successful. Marketing works on most of us and will get me to try something new and I like The Goose, Chopin, Belvedere but I also like Tito's and made a martini with that, not too long ago, by mistake and it was just as good. I convinced myself I had the palate to recognize the difference in vodka's but I evidently don't. Bourbon, gin, scotch and rum, yep, I can differentiate and I only use tequila as a mixer.

Take gin for instance. Don't mind if I do. Love Hendrick's in a G&T but not in a martini because of the botanical mix being so strong but match that up with a Fever Tree tonic and that's the elixir of the summer. Bombay Sapphire makes the perfect tini and has a great finish.
 

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Vodka is like wine in the regard the connection to cost does not equal quality. Vodka is the primary choice of female drinkers, according to research, and therefore "designer" vodkas are successful. Marketing works on most of us and will get me to try something new and I like The Goose, Chopin, Belvedere but I also like Tito's and made a martini with that, not too long ago, by mistake and it was just as good. I convinced myself I had the palate to recognize the difference in vodka's but I evidently don't. Bourbon, gin, scotch and rum, yep, I can differentiate and I only use tequila as a mixer.

Take gin for instance. Don't mind if I do. Love Hendrick's in a G&T but not in a martini because of the botanical mix being so strong but match that up with a Fever Tree tonic and that's the elixir of the summer. Bombay Sapphire makes the perfect tini and has a great finish.

Interesting. I'm not a huge Gin drinker, but the two that I like the most is Bombay Sapphire as you noted, and my favorite is Tanqueray #10 and I love Martinis with #10.

A lot of people drink Martini's with Vodka, but for me that's a no-no. (I don't even consider a Martini a Martini if you put Vodka in it) You've got to have Gin and it cannot be crappy Gin. It has to be a good Gin. (Sapphire or #10)

I also like Bombay, Sprite, and oddly enough. The non-fresh bottled Lime Juice.

Not this exact brand, but they come in the non-see through little green bottles. Most other drinks I prefer fresh lime, but in this concoction, I like this reconstituted lime juice. The flavor just seems to blend better for for this purpose. No idea, but that is the way I prefer it.
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I used to be a big beer nerd, kind of still am but there are so many breweries nowadays, a lot of them crap, that I haven’t been able to keep up with them.

What state do your in laws live in? What styles of beer do you like?

They're in California now but when they first moved over they were in Texas which is when I discovered Shiner Bock which is definitely my favourite American beer (mass produced anyway)

As for style it really just depends on the mood and situation. If I was having a few pints with the boys before the football it'd be lager. More likely to have an ale if having a quiet pint with a whisky and enjoy a porter or stout from time to time. Been drinking more IPA recently as well
 

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Vodka is like wine in the regard the connection to cost does not equal quality. Vodka is the primary choice of female drinkers, according to research, and therefore "designer" vodkas are successful. Marketing works on most of us and will get me to try something new and I like The Goose, Chopin, Belvedere but I also like Tito's and made a martini with that, not too long ago, by mistake and it was just as good. I convinced myself I had the palate to recognize the difference in vodka's but I evidently don't. Bourbon, gin, scotch and rum, yep, I can differentiate and I only use tequila as a mixer.

Take gin for instance. Don't mind if I do. Love Hendrick's in a G&T but not in a martini because of the botanical mix being so strong but match that up with a Fever Tree tonic and that's the elixir of the summer. Bombay Sapphire makes the perfect tini and has a great finish.

Never been a fan of vodka, I used to drink it back in the days when I'd go to clubs and it was cheap but other than that it's just not something I've really drunk.

Gin on the other hand I've started drinking more over the last few years. There's quite a few new whisky distilleries opening up here in Scotland and legally it needs to sit in the barrel for 3 years before it can be called whisky so they tend to do gin to get some funds in in the short term. Vast majority that I've tried have been really good
 

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Interesting. I'm not a huge Gin drinker, but the two that I like the most is Bombay Sapphire as you noted, and my favorite is Tanqueray #10 and I love Martinis with #10.

A lot of people drink Martini's with Vodka, but for me that's a no-no. (I don't even consider a Martini a Martini if you put Vodka in it) You've got to have Gin and it cannot be crappy Gin. It has to be a good Gin. (Sapphire or #10)

I also like Bombay, Sprite, and oddly enough. The non-fresh bottled Lime Juice.

Not this exact brand, but they come in the non-see through little green bottles. Most other drinks I prefer fresh lime, but in this concoction, I like this reconstituted lime juice. The flavor just seems to blend better for for this purpose. No idea, but that is the way I prefer it.
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Gin is the most polarizing of all the spirits but it really has the properties of balancing a cocktail when used properly. I make a Rickey but the secret is balancing the gin, lime juice and Topo Chico just right to achieve balance and the same goes for a Tom Collins, the gin becomes the balance of the flavor and neither rum nor vodka can really achieve that. However, gin can ruin a cocktail for some people. I also like rum quite a bit.

The cardinal rule I have with cocktails is measure, measure, measure and I never free pour, even on an on the rocks cocktail, I always measure. Allows me to monitor my cocktail intake as well as duplicate the flavor profile I am seeking in my cocktail.

I am not a flavor drinker only, I do seek the feeling the right level of alcohol can achieve but I am very fussy about managing that and being in control of it. I also realize alcohol does not make me prettier, richer or smarter but it does make me happier.

My doc asked me "do you need alcohol"? I thought about that for a minute and replied "to live? No. To be happy? Yes". I told him all of the crap you people prescribe to help with clinical depression and the losses in life are a hell of a lot worse than my own control of my mood leveler. He's a doc, can't agree with me but as a man, I have no doubt he gets it.

I do not know how many years I have left but I'd prefer not to spend them denying myself those that things that bring me joy in order to buy more time in a joy challenged life. When I tell my doc CC's Code of Living, he has a really hard time arguing it. Ang his young PA loves it. He knows that part of the discussion in coming every 6 months, mainly because that is required for Medicare patients because Older Adult Onset Alcohol Abuse is a real thing. I made that up and told him he should try using that acronym after a couple of tinis and he got a kick out of that but he said that is real and especially real in an area filled with retirees.

It is so simple to me Sam, and people need to realize it when dealing with people that have crossed that 70 barrier. First off, I never thought I'd be here at 70. The idea of denying myself anything that brings pleasure be that food, drink or Old Widder Wimmen Asian Porn, OWWAP, to extend my existence any longer without that which does bring me pleasure doesn't compute. Deny yourself to extend yourself at this age? Why? If I am a young man with a family to take care of that is entirely different but I have become one of the expendables.

Hey daschoo, you come in here disrespecting our Beer Thread devotees, this is what happens. Your thread gets jacked and they might be a gangly lot with a few marbles rolling about in their noggins, but they're our gangly lot. And when they come to and sober up, they'll be a comin' fer ye.
 
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*I cop more of a groovin' high, while imbibing Tanqueray gin, as compared 2 the square bale slinging haystack Calhoun sourmash Bourbon whiskey swiller, y'all know & love


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Never been a fan of vodka, I used to drink it back in the days when I'd go to clubs and it was cheap but other than that it's just not something I've really drunk.

Gin on the other hand I've started drinking more over the last few years. There's quite a few new whisky distilleries opening up here in Scotland and legally it needs to sit in the barrel for 3 years before it can be called whisky so they tend to do gin to get some funds in in the short term. Vast majority that I've tried have been really good
I've read where distilling gin is an art because the blend is everything. Hendrick's and Bombay make some different gins with botanical balances and it is surprising how different they are.

Bud of mine, that got into single malts at the same time I did, went to Scotland and said you guys were saving the best for home. May just be me but I do get the value in the increased aging with single malt, but do not in blends. Single malts rekindled my interest in fine bourbons because it reminds me of bourbon more than scotch. Could just be my taste buds and I have murdered some with hot sauce.
 

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Well, I wouldn't call it obscure Dash but a few years ago, my Nephew turned me on to Leinenkugels Summer Shandy. It's a unit thing. He is SF and I guess he and his unit like to drink it. I tried it and it's pretty decent, on a hot summer day IMO. I don't always drink it, but I usually keep a case around just in case.

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*I cop more of a groovin' high, while imbibing Tanqueray gin, as compared 2 the square bale slinging haystack Calhoun sourmash Bourbon whisky swiller, y'all know & love


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Used to be a Tanqueray guy but then switched to Bombay Sapphire but Melon, that damned Hendrick's makes as fine a G&T as can be had. Shot of that and a bottle of Fever Tree is perfection on a hot summer day or night.

I liked drinking G&T's back in the day of bars with black lights, the drink glows in the dark, really cool to pretend your changing into the Toxic Avenger while a really crummy cover band plays "Sweet Home Alabama" and you're going to evaporate them at the end of the song.
 
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Never been a fan of vodka, I used to drink it back in the days when I'd go to clubs and it was cheap but other than that it's just not something I've really drunk.

Gin on the other hand I've started drinking more over the last few years. There's quite a few new whisky distilleries opening up here in Scotland and legally it needs to sit in the barrel for 3 years before it can be called whisky so they tend to do gin to get some funds in in the short term. Vast majority that I've tried have been really good
Well shoot, your in laws are pretty much in the craft beer mecca, only a few other states are on par with CA. CA is known for their west coast style IPA’s but unless you’re there and buy them yourself, I wouldn’t bother. I pretty much don’t touch IPA’s more than 6 weeks old because the hops start fading and it changes the taste completely. If you do go, Pliny the Elder by Russian River was long considered one of the best IPA’s in the country but not so much anymore with all the new competition. It’s also kind of limited so it will probably be hard to find.

Not exclusive to CA anymore but anything by Firestone Walker is normally very good and a safe bet. They do everything from lagers to sours to stouts to IPA’s and I’ve rarely had a beer of theirs I didn’t like. You should be able to find most of their beers very easily and you’ll have a nice variety of styles.

Alesmith- Speedway stout is good, should be easy to find

Stone and Sierra Nevada- both available nationwide but CA is where they started. Pretty solid beers, both more known for their hoppy beers but they’ve branched out a lot

The Bruery- most of their beers are high in alcohol and can be very sweet. They do a lot of interesting stuff but you’ll have diabetes when you’re done with a bottle

Lagunitas- nationwide now, pretty decent beers, they do a lot of hoppy beers but have other styles as well

Lost Abbey- good sours

I could go on and on but those are some main breweries that should give you enough to work with. Depending where they are at, there are a bunch of smaller, more obscure breweries, that us beer nerds know about but typically their beers aren’t even distributed state wide and a lot have special releases with a lottery type system.
 

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Bud of mine, that got into single malts at the same time I did, went to Scotland and said you guys were saving the best for home. May just be me but I do get the value in the increased aging with single malt, but do not in blends. Single malts rekindled my interest in fine bourbons because it reminds me of bourbon more than scotch. Could just be my taste buds and I have murdered some with hot sauce.

Think the reverse is true as well. Most bars here will only stock Jack Daniels, if you're lucky maybe a Buffalo Trace, Wild Turkey or Bulleit.
First time I realised the variety and quality was my father in law taking me to a bourbon bar in the MGM in Vegas. Was similar to specialist whisky bars here in terms of the no of bottles on the gantry.
Always make sure I pick up a bottle of something I've not tried to bring home
 

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Well shoot, your in laws are pretty much in the craft beer mecca, only a few other states are on par with CA. CA is known for their west coast style IPA’s but unless you’re there and buy them yourself, I wouldn’t bother. I pretty much don’t touch IPA’s more than 6 weeks old because the hops start fading and it changes the taste completely. If you do go, Pliny the Elder by Russian River was long considered one of the best IPA’s in the country but not so much anymore with all the new competition. It’s also kind of limited so it will probably be hard to find.

Not exclusive to CA anymore but anything by Firestone Walker is normally very good and a safe bet. They do everything from lagers to sours to stouts to IPA’s and I’ve rarely had a beer of theirs I didn’t like. You should be able to find most of their beers very easily and you’ll have a nice variety of styles.

Alesmith- Speedway stout is good, should be easy to find

Stone and Sierra Nevada- both available nationwide but CA is where they started. Pretty solid beers, both more known for their hoppy beers but they’ve branched out a lot

The Bruery- most of their beers are high in alcohol and can be very sweet. They do a lot of interesting stuff but you’ll have diabetes when you’re done with a bottle

Lagunitas- nationwide now, pretty decent beers, they do a lot of hoppy beers but have other styles as well

Lost Abbey- good sours

I could go on and on but those are some main breweries that should give you enough to work with. Depending where they are at, there are a bunch of smaller, more obscure breweries, that us beer nerds know about but typically their beers aren’t even distributed state wide and a lot have special releases with a lottery type system.
Cheers, a few places over here stock lagunitas in bottles and can often get Sierra Nevada in the supermarket. I did live near a pub that had Sierra Nevada Pale Ale on tap when I lived in Edinburgh which was always a good pint.
Never been hugely convinced by sour beer but definitely acquiring the taste. Don't think I'd manage more than a pint though.
Started brewing my own beer about a year or so ago and surprised how easy it is. Starting to go off recipe a bit and experiment with different malts, hops, yeasts etc. One of the most successful was a dark lager (ish) brew that was just using up leftovers
 

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Cheers, a few places over here stock lagunitas in bottles and can often get Sierra Nevada in the supermarket. I did live near a pub that had Sierra Nevada Pale Ale on tap when I lived in Edinburgh which was always a good pint.
Never been hugely convinced by sour beer but definitely acquiring the taste. Don't think I'd manage more than a pint though.
Started brewing my own beer about a year or so ago and surprised how easy it is. Starting to go off recipe a bit and experiment with different malts, hops, yeasts etc. One of the most successful was a dark lager (ish) brew that was just using up leftovers
Do you have a bunch of lambics like Cantillon and Drie Fonteinen just sitting on shelves over there?
 

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Do you have a bunch of lambics like Cantillon and Drie Fonteinen just sitting on shelves over there?

Don't think I've tried either. Lambic isn't something you'd generally see unless you were going to a specialist bottle shop or bars with an unusually large selection of beer.
 
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