Just imagine Dak Prescott's price for Cowboys if he wins MVP (and he could)

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I disagree with this. For his personal stats to rise that much it wasn't just him making his own decision to occasionally throw a pass he might not have before, it was the team deciding on a more aggressive passing attack. Plus that, we read a lot a year ago about Kitna working with Dak to just make the read and get the ball out rather than being too cautious, and that follows with the idea it was by team design and not just something Dak came up with on his own.

I think the worst thing the team did last year was start down the path with the more aggressive attack, which was having great success, and then pulling the reins way back against New Orleans and going with an ultra conservative game plan. Dak was just getting the feel for the more aggressive attack and the team shifted gears on him. It took out some of the momentum at a point where I felt Dak needed to keep gaining confidence in the new passing philosophy. I don't hold Dak blameless because he does need to learn to adjust, but it never seemed to completely regain the momentum it had early in the season.

His first 3 games... on fire

Then he came down to earth. Coincidence that the competition got tougher?
 

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Rams and Seachickens are showing us right now.
Seahawks are fixing to have another fireside sale when they renegotiate with adams. He knows what they gave up for him, so he's got them over a barrel. I'd love to be his agent. Nice to have all the leverage.
 

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If he accomplishes those goals it will be because he had a great surrounding cast. Assuredly his price will go up, but we cannot discount the pie. The pie is limited in size. Dak's slice of the pie must leave enough for others. If not, we've already seen the eventual outcome.

If he accomplishes those goals it’s because he had a great season and his supporting cast stepped up. The defense is going to need to step up. We found out during the 2014 and 2016 seasons that it doesn’t matter how well we play offensively or how good our QB play is, if the defense doesn’t step up we’re not going to win in January. QBs are getting a big slice of the pie these days. Every year their slice is going to get bigger and bigger.
 

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Seems like a REAL longshot.
But if Dallas wins the SB, the odds are pretty high that the QB will get MVP almost by default----10 of the last 14 Super Bowl MVPs were QBs and a couple of more could've been.
Flacco, Eli, and Foles all won SB MVP's for example.
 

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If he accomplishes those goals it’s because he had a great season and his supporting cast stepped up. The defense is going to need to step up. We found out during the 2014 and 2016 seasons that it doesn’t matter how well we play offensively or how good our QB play is, if the defense doesn’t step up we’re not going to win in January. QBs are getting a big slice of the pie these days. Every year their slice is going to get bigger and bigger.
2014 murrays fumble was huge , bad call by ref and two missed fgs by Baily , yes defensive is a little to blame nut this is Rogers we are talking about, sometimes you have to lean on the offense and while 2014 offense played well other factors besides defense came into play..

wasnt 2016 when we came out the first 10mins unprepared jumping off sides 12 men on the filed calls etc etc..again sometimes your defense can play well and lose to elite qbs ..happens alot..you have to go score for score with some of these guys and first one to blink loses..
 

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2014 murrays fumble was huge , bad call by ref and two missed fgs by Baily , yes defensive is a little to blame nut this is Rogers we are talking about, sometimes you have to lean on the offense and while 2014 offense played well other factors besides defense came into play..

wasnt 2016 when we came out the first 10mins unprepared jumping off sides 12 men on the filed calls etc etc..again sometimes your defense can play well and lose to elite qbs ..happens alot..you have to go score for score with some of these guys and first one to blink loses..

The defense was a lot to blame for the loss to Green Bay in 2014. It was the main reason we lost. We overcame Murray’s fumble to retake the lead but we couldn’t stop Rodgers in the second half. He completely picked our defense apart. Even after Dez’s catch was overturned we still had just over four minutes to make a stop and get the ball back but we couldn’t stop Rodgers from running the clock out. We came back to tie the Packers late in the game during the 2016 playoffs and once again our defense folded.
 

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If he accomplishes those goals it’s because he had a great season and his supporting cast stepped up. The defense is going to need to step up. We found out during the 2014 and 2016 seasons that it doesn’t matter how well we play offensively or how good our QB play is, if the defense doesn’t step up we’re not going to win in January. QBs are getting a big slice of the pie these days. Every year their slice is going to get bigger and bigger.
And that's fine as long as the pie gets bigger. Circumstances beyond anyones control might make the timing of a great year by dak inopportune at best. The pie could get smaller.
 

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And that's fine as long as the pie gets bigger. Circumstances beyond anyones control might make the timing of a great year by dak inopportune at best. The pie could get smaller.

You can’t be serious! There’s never an inopportune time for a QB to have a great year. You’re exposing yourself as one of the fans I was talking about. lol If there was ever a time for a QB to have a great year it’s during a contract year. It makes it a whole lot easier to pay a QB after a great season.
 

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The defense was a lot to blame for the loss to Green Bay in 2014. It was the main reason we lost. We overcame Murray’s fumble to retake the lead but we couldn’t stop Rodgers in the second half. He completely picked our defense apart. Even after Dez’s catch was overturned we still had just over four minutes to make a stop and get the ball back but we couldn’t stop Rodgers from running the clock out.
im sorry those plays were huge missed fgs, fuble through awesome person most likely he takes that close to the goal line if not score and dexz is on offense is he not well that play was HUGE..yes defense would have been nice but maho es brough his team back twice to get to a sb dwn 21 and 17 to ZERO...better fn play all around is needed..

dont say you overcame something when you lose,..

thats time ran off clock as well you lost a shot at not leaving the 113 thing at the end garett got blamed for id say two missed FGs and fumble would have made up that 1:13

get passed it

some offense is needed didnt Brady come back in a second half in sb and stole one from Ryan..hey big boy qbs lead teams to wins and dont make excuses about the defense etc..

i get it the defense was part of the issue but far more went into those loses..
 

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You can’t be serious! There’s never an inopportune time for a QB to have a great year. You’re exposing yourself as one of the fans I was talking about. lol If there was ever a time for a QB to have a great year it’s during a contract year. It makes it a whole lot easier to pay a QB after a great season.
He's really not. If the salary cap goes down, individual pay will go down.
 

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im sorry those plays were huge missed fgs, fuble through awesome person most likely he takes that close to the goal line if not score and dexz is on offense is he not well that play was HUGE..yes defense would have been nice but maho es brough his team back twice to get to a sb dwn 21 and 17 to ZERO...better fn play all around is needed..

dont say you overcame something when you lose,..

thats time ran off clock as well you lost a shot at not leaving the 113 thing at the end garett got blamed for id say two missed FGs and fumble would have made up that 1:13

get passed it

some offense is needed didnt Brady come back in a second half in sb and stole one from Ryan..hey big boy qbs lead teams to wins and dont make excuses about the defense etc..

i get it the defense was part of the issue but far more went into those loses..
Brady was only able to come back due to a great Defensive stand on 3-4 consecutive drives. D is huge in every playoff victory. Mahomes doesn't win last year w/o those Dstands, not even close.
 

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im sorry those plays were huge missed fgs, fuble through awesome person most likely he takes that close to the goal line if not score and dexz is on offense is he not well that play was HUGE..yes defense would have been nice but maho es brough his team back twice to get to a sb dwn 21 and 17 to ZERO...better fn play all around is needed..

dont say you overcame something when you lose,..

thats time ran off clock as well you lost a shot at not leaving the 113 thing at the end garett got blamed for id say two missed FGs and fumble would have made up that 1:13

get passed it

some offense is needed didnt Brady come back in a second half in sb and stole one from Ryan..hey big boy qbs lead teams to wins and dont make excuses about the defense etc..

i get it the defense was part of the issue but far more went into those loses..

You can overcome a deficit to tie a game or retake a lead and still lose. We had the game tied in 2016 with all the momentum on our side but we couldn’t stop Rodgers. Our defense cost us both playoff games against the Packers.
 

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Brady was only able to come back due to a great Defensive stand on 3-4 consecutive drives. D is huge in every playoff victory. Mahomes doesn't win last year w/o those Dstands, not even close.
ok so last year in philly first half was bad all around defense stepped up and the rest of the offense, Dak through ducks whn the game was one score most of the half..

how bout the defense in the Rams playoff game sure they had a horrid 2nd QTR but the game slowed down and was what 8 points for very long time...

dak and the offense didnt do diddly squat...very same scenario Mahomes tore though the playoff last year..our D played bad at points but games are close and winnable and the offense hasn't just took over nd overcame any of those games..
 

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He's really not. If the salary cap goes down, individual pay will go down.

I think he is serious. He’s one of those who believes if Dak has a great season he’ll price himself out of Dallas. Let him and the rest who believe the same go find an expert who shares that line of thinking. lol Dak has an MVP season and leads the Cowboys to a championship and two days later Jerry releases him because he can’t afford him. :laugh:
 

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Can any of you board brainiacs name an NFL QB who had such a great season they played their way off their team? lol
 

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About 12 other QBs would have to do the covid opt out for Dak to be MVP :muttley:

How about naming those 12 QBs that have MVP potential. Would love to get a good laugh at some of the QBs you have ranked ahead of him. This would provide a good gauge of your football IQ even though I have it pretty much figured out.
 

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Some fans on this board need to opt out for the 2020 season. You won’t be missed!
 

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Dak’s price will continue to go up, which is why this is likely to be his last season as a Cowboy, particularly if he has a strong year.

I don't think it's necessarily his last season, but if it is then so be it. Dallas can think of themselves as lucky to pull that kind of QB production out of the 4th round. Find another QB and move forward. It'll likely suck, but if Dallas doesn't want to pay then someone else will.
 
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