Just Learned a Serious Fallout From the Lockout

[Hostile]

Today is the Arizona Wildcats scheduled Pro Day. Colleges typically open their Pro Days not just to current Draft picks looking to impress but also to alumni who are Free Agents.

So at today's Pro Day for Arizona Brooks Reed, Ricky Elmore, D'Andre Reed, and Adam Grant are all working out.

But 7 former Wildcats who have already had shots at the NFL are locked out of working out today for the teams in attendance here. CB Devin Ross is one such candidate. He hoped to be applying for a job today, instead he is banned from participating.

I bet Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees don't even care about that either.

 

[DallasEast]

Peyton Manning's response:

Ooo! Bad break Devin. Rub some dirt on it.

 

[CCBoy]

Dirt, how about taping a salt tablet on the sore area...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Today is the Arizona Wildcats scheduled Pro Day. Colleges typically open their Pro Days not just to current Draft picks looking to impress but also to alumni who are Free Agents.

So at today's Pro Day for Arizona Brooks Reed, Ricky Elmore, D'Andre Reed, and Adam Grant are all working out.

But 7 former Wildcats who have already had shots at the NFL are locked out of working out today for the teams in attendance here. CB Devin Ross is one such candidate. He hoped to be applying for a job today, instead he is banned from participating.

I bet Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees don't even care about that either.

Are not Brady , Brees and Manning suing saying that the lockout is illegal which if they won would make it so these guys could participate and sign contracts?


So I guess you could say yes, they do care.

 

[Hostile]

Are not Brady , Brees and Manning suing saying that the lockout is illegal which if they won would make it so these guys could participate and sign contracts?


So I guess you could say yes, they do care.

They will be the players who get the most money from this by far. I do not buy that they care at all about Devin Ross or anyone who now cannot workout and try to get a job.

 

[adbutcher]

Peyton Manning's response:

Ooo! Bad break Devin. Rub some dirt on it.

:laugh1:

 

[JD_KaPow]

I bet Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees don't even care about that either.

As someone said, they are suing to keep this from happening.

They will be the players who get the most money from this by far. I do not buy that they care at all about Devin Ross or anyone who now cannot workout and try to get a job.

Whatever. Somebody has to be the players who get the most money out of it. It happens to be Manning, Brady, et al. And I get that you think they don't care about these folks, but the facts are that the owners are doing the locking out and the players are suing to prevent the locking out, so what you brought up as "evidence" in support of your argument in the first post isn't really evidence at all.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Today is the Arizona Wildcats scheduled Pro Day. Colleges typically open their Pro Days not just to current Draft picks looking to impress but also to alumni who are Free Agents.

So at today's Pro Day for Arizona Brooks Reed, Ricky Elmore, D'Andre Reed, and Adam Grant are all working out.

But 7 former Wildcats who have already had shots at the NFL are locked out of working out today for the teams in attendance here. CB Devin Ross is one such candidate. He hoped to be applying for a job today, instead he is banned from participating.

I bet Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees don't even care about that either.

exactly, all they care about is the money, they dont care about the fans or other players, just as long as they get the money

 

[Avery]

Brady, Manning, Brees, all great QB's north of 30 who only have so much time left to still cash in.

But remember, 'Let Them Play'.

 

[Hostile]

As someone said, they are suing to keep this from happening.
Whatever. Somebody has to be the players who get the most money out of it. It happens to be Manning, Brady, et al. And I get that you think they don't care about these folks, but the facts are that the owners are doing the locking out and the players are suing to prevent the locking out, so what you brought up as "evidence" in support of your argument in the first post isn't really evidence at all.

Nonsense.

Do people honestly not get that what the players want only makes the richest players richer? That is literally all it accomplishes.

 

[peplaw06]

Are not Brady , Brees and Manning suing saying that the lockout is illegal which if they won would make it so these guys could participate and sign contracts?


So I guess you could say yes, they do care.

Exactly.

Repeat after me... The owners are locking out the players.

Amazing that is somehow the players fault.

 

[peplaw06]

Nonsense.

Do people honestly not get that what the players want only makes the richest players richer? That is literally all it accomplishes.

The owners do not have to sign players to those astronomical contracts. Again, somehow the players fault.

The players are the face of the league, not the owners. Most fans probably know what maybe 5 owners look like. I guess it's easier to hate on the players because fans recognize them.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Nonsense.

Do people honestly not get that what the players want only makes the richest players richer? That is literally all it accomplishes.

Absolutely. That's why the players negotiated a minimum salary, which starts at over $300,000, as part of going along with a salary cap. That's why they were negotiating for better health care, literally the only thing players were asking for.

And none of this has anything to do with your original post, in which you argued that the lockout, which the players are suing to end, is proof that the players don't care about those affected by the lockout.

 

[unionjack8]

Exactly.

Repeat after me... The owners are locking out the players.

Amazing that is somehow the players fault.

yeash beacuse the pa/union/joke of a jerk circle de-certified. Its a farce is what it is. All of it, a real farce. God, i see 2 year olds able to negotiate with chocolate better than these inbred lawyers can

 

[tupperware]

Posters siding with the Owners: "It's simple, it's the players who are at fault here, not the owners. Amazing that some people can't figure that out."

Posters siding with the Players: "It's simple, it's the Owners who are locking the players out. It's amazing some people can't figure it out."

 

[casmith07]

Unions are antiquated. Time for the NFL to modernize it's labor relations along with instant replay for challenges and everything else they do.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Today is the Arizona Wildcats scheduled Pro Day. Colleges typically open their Pro Days not just to current Draft picks looking to impress but also to alumni who are Free Agents.

So at today's Pro Day for Arizona Brooks Reed, Ricky Elmore, D'Andre Reed, and Adam Grant are all working out.

But 7 former Wildcats who have already had shots at the NFL are locked out of working out today for the teams in attendance here. CB Devin Ross is one such candidate. He hoped to be applying for a job today, instead he is banned from participating.

I bet Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees don't even care about that either.

I dont think either side has "clean hands" in all of this.

Yea, the players are being greedy and want as much money as they can get. This is called "human nature" and has existed from the beginning of time. Be it cave men trying to divide up rocks or pro athelets trying to divide up millions...............humans are greedy, not exactly a surprise here.


On the other hand, the owners are the ones that opted out of the agreement, the owners are the ones that are asking the players to take a pay cut because the previous deal was too favorable to the players (hence, why the owners opted out in the first place). It is also the owners that have decided that the "status quo" is not acceptable and locked out the players. So we have billionaires deciding that their piece of the pie is not big enough all of a sudden. Kinda sounds like the players, doesnt it.

Bottom line.....Billionaires are arguing with millionaires over how to spilt $9 billion in annual revenue. Like I said, humans are greedy and they have been since the beginning of time and they will continue to be greedy until the end of time. So lets not be to quick to pick sides when everybody "wants more".


Just my .02.............I am sure others feel different.

 

[DallasEast]

Question. If the owners were to suddenly sign all players, including the league's superstars, to "reasonable" contracts, wouldn't the players union automatically accuse them of committing collusion?

 

[peplaw06]

yeash beacuse the pa/union/joke of a jerk circle de-certified. Its a farce is what it is. All of it, a real farce. God, i see 2 year olds able to negotiate with chocolate better than these inbred lawyers can

The lockout was coming before the union decertified. The owners told us that long ago. And they opted out of the last CBA.

 

[jterrell]

They will be the players who get the most money from this by far. I do not buy that they care at all about Devin Ross or anyone who now cannot workout and try to get a job.

pretty lame argument.

the owners locked the players out, not vice versa.

the owners essentially said we won't agree to "let you play".

brees, manning and many others run camps for collegiate kids for free every summer. how many owners sponsor free camps for college kids?