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Its very possible that this decision was made at a lower level and Jerrah and Steve know nothing about this policy. I would try and get in touch with Mickey or someone else and see if this really is approved all the way to the top. Just taking one suits word - I wouldn't. Not like you have anything to lose by trying?
 

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Ya, you should send this to Mickey's Email and see if he responds on his radio show. I'm sure he will say something about the media, etc., and their access to the Cowboys.
 

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This should not be shocking.

The Cowboys are quite possibly looking into the concept that the Commanders (and other teams) have done and that is to create "official" forums and outlets for this type of thing. They currently have their own on their site and while it is weak, it is there. Even the NFL is looking to control the team sites in kind. It is about harnessing the flow of information.

They realize how powerful the internet is and understandably want to exercise as much control as possible.

All that can be said is that this type of stance is unfortunate and you do not have to agree with it to understand it.

That being said, it doesn't excuse Darymple being evasive or outright rude.
 

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How does Rich know you are using Shams intro if he hasn't listened to the show?
 

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dcfanatic, I salute you. You do a great job, and I love your enthusiasm. Please keep up the work even if you don't get support from the team.
 

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I'm curious, what part about the PSA-type announcement you hear read during the broadcast of every NFL game concerning, "property of the NFL, no part may be rebroadcast without expressed written permission etc. etc." do some of y'all not understand?

Apparently, for some of you, it must be close to 100%.
 

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Great show. Don't be discouraged. Dalrymple said the right stuff the wrong way. Just keep trying. Maybe you will luck up or something and start and email conversation going with Jerry Jones.
 

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iceberg;1520682 said:
it takes time, it takes effort, it takes getting through the setbacks and it takes staying focused on your goals to get there. when you do - THEN - you're more likely to get the interviews your after. but i speak from experience, it takes years of proving yourself before you'll get there.

nature of the beast not someone being an ******.

I cannot stress this (in bold) enough. You cannot win by getting discouraged. I'm on your side, you need something, ask. Bombard the Cowboys organization to allow you access. Make it known to the entire organization what we think about Mr. Dalrymple; Done. Show me how you want it done and I'm on board as I'm sure so many others here at CZ are also.

EDIT: BTW, Dalrymple is a Steeler fan. :grrr:


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By Mike White
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Sometimes you'll see him on the field after Dallas Cowboys games. You might see him next to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones or escorting Terrell Owens to the podium for a news conference.

Rich Dalrymple is in his 17th year as public relations director for the Dallas Cowboys. He certainly has dealt with some high-profile individuals.

But while Dalrymple is in Dallas, he still has Pittsburgh in his heart. He has a Terrible Towel in his office. Dalrymple grew up in West View, was a quarterback at North Hills High School and then played at Westminster College.

His late father, Jim, played football at Schenley High School and was a longtime assistant coach at Richland (now Pine-Richland). His mother, Joan, still lives in West View. Rich's older brother, Jeff, played football at Princeton.

Rich Dalrymple's first job in the P.R. business was sports information director at Otterbein College in Ohio. After that, he worked in sports information for six years at the University of Miami. He was around two national championship teams at Miami and three Super Bowl championship teams with the Cowboys.

Dalrymple, 46, and his wife, Rosalind, have four children. Rosalind was an NCAA All-American tennis player at Miami. The Post-Gazette's Mike White recently talked to Dalrymple.


Q. Could you describe your job in, say, one paragraph?

Dalrymple: Many times it's organized mayhem, especially when you're working in a game-day situation and trying to coordinate publicity with a media throng of a couple hundred people. It can be very frustrating at times and challenging at times, but I have to remind myself that I'm doing a job I always dreamed of having. I work a lot with network TV people when they come to town. Plus, I'm in a unique situation in that I have one of the most high-profile owners (Jerry Jones) in sports. That represents a lot of media attention and media requests that I have to consider and fulfill.

Q. Has your job been tougher this year because of Terrell Owens?

Dalrymple: I said before they signed him and after they signed him that you can measure how fulfilling this job is by the number of championship teams you had the opportunity to work with, and the number of colorful personalities you worked with. I didn't put my head under the pillow and hold my breath when they signed him. I knew it was just another professional challenge. It's a work in progress, but I think the guy can possibly help us win another championship. Often times, it's not as negative on the inside of the building as it's perceived to be on the outside. When you have someone who is a lightning rod for publicity -- positive, negative or otherwise -- people like ESPN and talk radio thrive off that electricity. But we've had lightning rods here for a long time. Between Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones, there have been a lot of personalities here. I've had some experiences from the past that help me handle the current series of events.

Q. OK, but what is T.O. really like?

Dalrymple: He's not a bad person. He's well-liked by his teammates in the locker room. He's somebody who I think has been misunderstood at times, and someone who doesn't shy away from the spotlight. A combination of all those factors sometimes puts him in a negative light. But he's an enjoyable person to be around. I don't have any problems with the guy.

Q. We only get snippets of Bill Parcells' news conferences, but he doesn't like the media, does he?

Dalrymple: That's absolutely not true. As much as any coach I've been around, he enjoys the exchanges with the media. If a reporter is going to ask a question that may go against the grain or challenge his viewpoint, that reporter better have all his facts right or Bill will ask a question right back. But he enjoys the give and take, and the banter as much as anybody. You only get a few snippets on ESPN from what might be a half-hour daily press conference. I've seen him undress a reporter at a press conference, but walk down the hall with his arm around the guy a little later. That's what you don't see. It's a misconception that he doesn't like the media.

Q. Would you say it probably wouldn't have been a good week to be at your old P.R. job at the University of Miami?

Dalrymple: That [fight] was very unfortunate. I have a lot of wonderful memories from working there. But regardless of your allegiances or past, no one likes to see what happened there.

Q. You have a great amount of respect for Jerry Jones, don't you?

Dalrymple: I consider myself to be a unique NFL employee because I was raised in Pittsburgh around the Rooney family, the Steelers and traditional values of old-school NFL. But for the past 17 years, I've worked for a man who has great vision and passion for the game, but also has a different approach to doing business in the NFL. The thing I hope people realize about Jerry someday is a lot of things the NFL does today were put in place by his energy and his way of thinking outside the box a little bit. At some point, I hope people recognize that. But he does things for people that don't get noticed. My dad died the Thursday before one of our Super Bowls. He gave me his plane to fly home the night it happened, and then brought me back on it.

Q. If you weren't doing this what would you do for a living?

Dalrymple: I often ask myself that question. I hope I don't get fired because I really don't know the answer. But it would probably be something related to sports, probably teaching and coaching. I grew up in a sports environment. My father was a high school assistant coach, so I've been going to two-a-day practices as long as I can remember. I still have a scrapbook of the 1971 Pirates. I bet I'm the only NFL P.R. guy outside of Allegheny County who has a Terrible Towel in his office. Western Pennsylvania and my Pittsburgh roots shaped who I am.

Q. Is it true you used to write newspaper stories about games you played in?

Dalrymple [laughing]: I did once in college at Westminster. The New Castle News covered us pretty good but they were experiencing a budget problem in my senior year. They weren't going to send a reporter to our game at Waynesburg. They knew me a little bit, knew I did a little writing in high school and knew I was an English major. So I told them, 'Why don't I write a game story for you?' We won, 14-0, and I threw a touchdown pass, but I made sure I didn't get mentioned until the seventh paragraph. In high school, I used to write about North Hills in a paper called the Free Press. My senior year, I broke my ankle so I wrote some of the games when I was hurt. Mark Madden [of ESPN radio] was the sports editor of that paper. I used to have to drop off my stories to the back of his house on Troy Hill. Now look at us. He's shaping opinions -- whether you like it or not -- in Pittsburgh. I'm trying to shape some in Texas. Rich
 

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Alexander;1520829 said:
This should not be shocking.

The Cowboys are quite possibly looking into the concept that the Commanders (and other teams) have done and that is to create "official" forums and outlets for this type of thing. They currently have their own on their site and while it is weak, it is there. Even the NFL is looking to control the team sites in kind. It is about harnessing the flow of information.

They realize how powerful the internet is and understandably want to exercise as much control as possible.

All that can be said is that this type of stance is unfortunate and you do not have to agree with it to understand it.

That being said, it doesn't excuse Darymple being evasive or outright rude.

how do you politely tell someone they don't rate? the only "rude" behavior we know of is by someone who feels "jilted" and don't you think that could be a biased view?

they simply can't let anyone with a website and a "radio" station have anything they want. field passes? if you were a player would you want to have to visit everyone who hosted a radio show on the internet? there are THOUSANDS of them out there - I KNOW. i work in that media every day and even after 6 years here in dallas i KNOW what to expect when i ask for things.

i could get into a saliva show - someone at AAC would be a different matter.

i could host a sports section sure - but that doesn't mean all sports athletes are not subject to my schedule. they shouldn't have to be.

this isn't to say he should quit - far be it from that. but he should take this as a learning experience and work WITH the system not get mad about it.

talk to rich and ask him what you need to do to accomplish your goals? accredidation? from who? it can happen but not if you get mad and fight against it.

you want respect you gotta earn it and it doesn't matter if you think you deserve it for whatever reason you hold close to you.

dcfanatic - i'd be glad to help if you're interested. but don't get too angry or upset - this is how it works and simply something to learn from.
 

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iceberg;1521080 said:
how do you politely tell someone they don't rate? the only "rude" behavior we know of is by someone who feels "jilted" and don't you think that could be a biased view?

Quite possibly. That is just the view we have from the OP.

And yes, we only have that view and of course there are two sides.

But like I said, you don't have to like it to understand it.

It just goes back to how we as fans feel a bigger sense of entitlement than the NFL (or team) is able or willing to provide. It is unfortunate, but it should not be something that is that difficult to understand.

If it were up to us, we would all have backstage passes and VIP access to every practice and the team facility too. Sorry.
 

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iceberg;1521080 said:
how do you politely tell someone they don't rate? the only "rude" behavior we know of is by someone who feels "jilted" and don't you think that could be a biased view?

they simply can't let anyone with a website and a "radio" station have anything they want. field passes? if you were a player would you want to have to visit everyone who hosted a radio show on the internet? there are THOUSANDS of them out there - I KNOW. i work in that media every day and even after 6 years here in dallas i KNOW what to expect when i ask for things.

i could get into a saliva show - someone at AAC would be a different matter.

i could host a sports section sure - but that doesn't mean all sports athletes are not subject to my schedule. they shouldn't have to be.

this isn't to say he should quit - far be it from that. but he should take this as a learning experience and work WITH the system not get mad about it.

talk to rich and ask him what you need to do to accomplish your goals? accredidation? from who? it can happen but not if you get mad and fight against it.

you want respect you gotta earn it and it doesn't matter if you think you deserve it for whatever reason you hold close to you.

dcfanatic - i'd be glad to help if you're interested. but don't get too angry or upset - this is how it works and simply something to learn from.

Very sound advice, I'd say, IB.
 

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Alexander;1521088 said:
Quite possibly. That is just the view we have from the OP.

And yes, we only have that view and of course there are two sides.

But like I said, you don't have to like it to understand it.

It just goes back to how we as fans feel a bigger sense of entitlement than the NFL (or team) is able or willing to provide. It is unfortunate, but it should not be something that is that difficult to understand.

If it were up to us, we would all have backstage passes and VIP access to every practice and the team facility too. Sorry.

in the end this is one of those few times you and i totally agree. : )
 
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I completely understand the business side of it from a Dallas Cowboys organization standpoint because I too work in public relations/corporate communications. It's very sensative business.
 

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Curious, can a "celebrity voice" impression be substitued for the real Sham recording?
 

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dogberry;1521236 said:
Curious, can a "celebrity voice" impression be substitued for the real Sham recording?


Yes, and it's done all the time. The only limitations are that the impression has to be noted as such or must be a parody that is obvious to someone of average intelligence.
 
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