Kaiser Rolls out analysis 1/1

[Kaiser]

Fantastic read.

I would draft Ryan Switzer out of UNC as reciever and return specialist. He is gonna be a star

Thanks, I think something really interesting about this coming draft if that the team will only have a couple of holes to fill. They can afford to take a gamble on positions like return specialist where they didn't have that luxury in the past. This year in the 4th they had to go backup DE and Developmental QB - next year they already have the depth positions filled and could take a guy like a KR in the 4th or 5th without as much risk as they did in the past.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Thanks, I think something really interesting about this coming draft if that the team will only have a couple of holes to fill. They can afford to take a gamble on positions like return specialist where they didn't have that luxury in the past. This year in the 4th they had to go backup DE and Developmental QB - next year they already have the depth positions filled and could take a guy like a KR in the 4th or 5th without as much risk as they did in the past.

I agree. Still some holes to fill but now we have a template keep building

 

[Kaiser]

I agree. Still some holes to fill but now we have a template keep building

I definitely think they draft a CB, WR and OT next year but the good thing is they won't have any pressure. They have done really well in the last four drafts and part of that is they have refused to reach for players. They needed a RB two years ago but refused to reach for a guy in the draft, to a certain degree they did that at QB in the last draft.

With no pressure at all, they can take BPA or gamble on high upside players where they want to. This year's draft is going to be really fun, especially if we get a premium draft pick for Romo.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I definitely think they draft a CB, WR and OT next year but the good thing is they won't have any pressure. They have done really well in the last four drafts and part of that is they have refused to reach for players. They needed a RB two years ago but refused to reach for a guy in the draft, to a certain degree they did that at QB in the last draft.

With no pressure at all, they can take BPA or gamble on high upside players where they want to. This year's draft is going to be really fun, especially if we get a premium draft pick for Romo.

At first I was thinking we need to draft a tackle but with Free, Cleary, Collins and Green I think it's something we can skip another year.

I do agree with what you said though. Draft time is always fun but this season will be very interesting

 

[AbeBeta]

So Undrafted Free Agents that don't hold onto their starting positions can't be traded, because other players who go undrafted will pass up their chance to play in the NFL?

You know this was a unique situation. Highly relevant to how free agents - not so much USDA but UFA certainly - view the team.

Unless Collins requests a trade, it is a horrible move.

 

[Bluefin]

Unless Collins requests a trade, it is a horrible move.

Exactly.

La'el Collins will be the starting LG next season.

Ronald Leary's having a fantastic campaign right now and will deserve to make top dollar elsewhere as an unrestricted free agent in March.

 

[Kaiser]

You know this was a unique situation. Highly relevant to how free agents - not so much USDA but UFA certainly - view the team.

Unless Collins requests a trade, it is a horrible move.

If its a unique situation, why is it a precedent for other UDFA? I just disagree, if Collins was playing the way the team envisioned when he signed there wouldn't be discussion of the trade in the first place.

 

[Kaiser]

Ronald Leary's having a fantastic campaign right now and will deserve to make top dollar elsewhere as an unrestricted free agent in March.

Collins is too inconsistent IMO. There are too many moving pieces to say for sure at this point. But if the choice is Leary and getting a 2017 2nd or 3rd for Collins versus keeping Collins with a compensatory 4th in 2018 for Leary, I'm starting Leary and trading Collins .

 

[AbeBeta]

If its a unique situation, why is it a precedent for other UDFA? I just disagree, if Collins was playing the way the team envisioned when he signed there wouldn't be discussion of the trade in the first place.

I'm sorry you don't understand how when you recruit a player by whining and dining him and his momma and bring in your three all pro OL to sing the team's praises that it is a very different situation.

You clearly see players as simple commodities. Owners like Jerry respect the players more than that. Again, I expect you won't understand that either.

 

[Kaiser]

I'm sorry you don't understand how when you recruit a player by whining and dining him and his momma and bring in your three all pro OL to sing the team's praises that it is a very different situation.

You clearly see players as simple commodities. Owners like Jerry respect the players more than that. Again, I expect you won't understand that either.

Spare me the "I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand" nonsense.

The next time a player is accused of murder and drops out of the draft, they aren't going to give a rats hiney about Collins being traded.

"I'm sorry you don't understand that".

 

[CowboyStar88]

i don't think Gachkar played well at all. We must've been watching 2 different games.

 

[Bluefin]

Collins is too inconsistent IMO.

There are too many moving pieces to say for sure at this point. But if the choice is Leary and getting a 2017 2nd or 3rd for Collins versus keeping Collins with a compensatory 4th in 2018 for Leary, I'm starting Leary and trading Collins .

La'el Collins is way ahead of where Ron Leary was at in the same point in their careers.

And Leary is going to get paid. I don't expect Dallas will want to match the contract numbers, even if given the chance to do so.

Collins has only started 15 games in his career at this point. What team is going to give up a premium draft choice for him?

And Dallas won't be able to wait before making a decision.

Trades are often long, drawn out affairs. Leary will likely sign a new contract in the first week of free agency.

 

[Stash]

Well, it wasn't just Zeke, Tyron and Leary were both out as well.

Imo, they'll keep Collins over Leary. Health, ceiling, if we had more cap then we'd resign Leary but he's a luxury at this point.

Agreed. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening. He'll be looking for a big contract and the Cowboys can't afford to pay their entire line big money.

 

[Kaiser]

La'el Collins is way ahead of where Ron Leary was at in the same point in their careers.

And Leary is going to get paid. I don't expect Dallas will want to match the contract numbers, even if given the chance to do so.

Collins has only started 15 games in his career at this point. What team is going to give up a premium draft choice for him?

And Dallas won't be able to wait before making a decision.

Trades are often long, drawn out affairs. Leary will likely sign a new contract in the first week of free agency.

I think they can resign Leary if they want to, there will be a ton of cap space available next year.

And the same argument applies to Collins, he is a FA after 2017. If he is better than Leary and Leary will get a huge payday, won't Collins get even more?

And wouldn't the same logic apply to his trade value? If he is good enough to start in Dallas and start over Leary, why would he not have trade value? He was considered a top 15 pick in his draft year and he hasn't lived up to that IMO, but he is the same player but with more experience. No team would give up a #3 for that?

 

[Kaiser]

Trades are often long, drawn out affairs. Leary will likely sign a new contract in the first week of free agency.

Jerry always keep the players he wants to keep, if Dallas wants him back he will be resigned before the FA window.

 

[Stash]

You can't trade Collins after convincing him to sign here. That poisons the well for future signings

Yep, it would be a clear betrayal of the trust of a young player who chose your organization over anyone else in the league when it was his choice to make. If you betray that trust, if another player has his choice, it would undoubtedly be a strike against signing with the Cowboys.

 

[Stash]

I'd see where Pettigrew is at. Marty B is not coming back here

I'm surprised they haven't looked at Pettigrew already, especially considering Escobar's play. They really miss a blocking TE.

 

[Stash]

So Undrafted Free Agents that don't hold onto their starting positions can't be traded, because other players who go undrafted will pass up their chance to play in the NFL?

No, and that's not an accurate analysis of the situation at all. But I think you know that.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Spare me the "I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand" nonsense.

The next time a player is accused of murder and drops out of the draft, they aren't going to give a rats hiney about Collins being traded.

"I'm sorry you don't understand that".

Come on man really? He didn't drop out of the draft and he wasn't accused he was questioned which he had nothing to do with. It was an unfortunate situation and clearly one that doesn't happen often.

Dallas isn't trading him after he's played all of 17 games.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

As much as we love Dak, Zeke is the key to making this team what it is. It all starts with Zeke controlling the game on the ground. DMC is not a bad player but you saw what a huge dropoff it was with Elliot out of the game. The offense was a fraction of what it normally was.

Wut?

No doubitng Zeke is very good. But what exactly from the Philly game made you say this?