Kaiser Rolls out analysis 9/18

waving monkey

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We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round. Prescott is a special player and you can see it from space. Romo is a better player and will start when he returns, but Dak is special. When Dak went onto the field down by 3 in the 4th Quarter, I KNEW he was going to take the team down the field for the winning score. And he did. He is going to be a special player.


This game was the 2014 plan, control the game with the offense and keep the defense off the field. The problem with that is that our DLine is atrocious until DLaw gets back and the rotational guys like Tapper and Davis (and possible Gregory) can take snaps. Irving played a lot today which helped, but any team will pick you apart if you can’t bring pressure – which is what Cousins almost did in the second half. On the sack by T. Crawford, we were playing an all – DT line of Crawford, McClain, Collins and Jack Crawford. He got the sack, but that lineup is a desperation move.


We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.


Give Claiborne his props, he is playing very well. Carr had a blown assignment but is much better as the 2nd or 3rd CB instead of trying to cover #1 WRs. Jones is settling into his role and I bet grades out well for this game. Even Church played well, though I think his pick was more of a bad pass by Cousins than a brilliant play by Church.


We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.


Elliot played a lot better and Lynch’s comparison to LaDanien Tomlinson is spot on. He needs more time, but did much better today when he showed some patience. Free had some bad plays, but the OL is starting to play to its capabilities. And that is huge.


This game was example # 4,654,987 of how the Refs control the game. Not to favor one team, but to make sure the score stays close, fans don’t tune out and advertising revenue to the league stays high. Dallas played its 2014 game plan to control the game on offense, then up 10 – 0 Washington doesn’t convert a 3rd down but the refs make a ridiculous PI call on Claiborne to keep them in the game. If Dallas goes up 17 – 0, everyone turns off the game and the NFL loses money – which is why they didn’t let it happen. I thought the “in the grasp” sack of Dak late in the game was also a call to keep things close and not let Dallas pull ahead.


And my last point - we drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.

The one thing I'd like to contribute is we drafted Steve McNair and we got with our fourth round pick. That's pretty good.
 

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He is literally nothing like McNair. Other than that, it's creepy. Especially since McNair's dead.
McNair was raised in a small town close to me and I know some of his family. Dak is no McNair. He may be a good QB, but McNair was a much more physically gifted QB. McNair had a stronger arm and was just a different player on my levels. Both played college ball in Mississippi and that about ends it.
 

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When was the last time a team transitioned from one excellent QB to another - and at their discretion? Joe Montana to Steve Young?
We are so fortunate. Some teams have been searching the entire modern era, imagine being a Brown's fan, shudder.
 

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Not really true. Fischer sorry but artificially held him back in order to keep his job.

I don't know about that. McNair had a much larger leap from college to the NFL. The SEC is about as close to NFL competition as you can get in college football these days and Dak had 4 years of it.
 

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Just like everyone saying chill out on calling Zeke a bust, we should chill out on a noizing Dak the savior.

To be fair, we will be able to better gauge after 8 games what we have here. There have been qbs that flashed in their first year like RG3 that have turned out to be junk, and there are qbs that take 2-4 years to develop. I like Dak, and hope he is our next franchise qb, but it's way too soon to tell. I can say I like what I see so far!

In all fairness, I think a guy like RG3 can flash more and turn out to be junk because his game was based almost exclusively on his freakish running ability. He needed supernatural quickness to make it all work. Dak isn't just running around out there chucking the ball, he's making his reads and running the offense like a legitimate professional QB. RG3 was playing sandlot ball because his physical abilities were off the charts, when they weren't he couldn't get by on his mental ability. Dak isn't playing like that at all, his football acumen seems to be his strongest point.
 

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Pretty funny ... because I remember people comparing Steve Pelluer to Roger Staubach.

Chill a bit ok, peeps? Comparing Dak to Staubach and Aikman is not fair to anyone. Dak had a nice game. Let's stop there.

This is a message board. We're fans. Comparing players to one another is what we do, and while I know we piss each other off sometimes, I highly doubt that anything anyone posts here has any effect on Dak Prescott, Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman. Fans always have high expectations of players and their teams. I think that's natural, not unfair. To anyone.
 

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Yes, the call on Claiborne was terrible.

Also, one reason that having a smallish DL can be a problem compared to a big DL like the Giants use, is that holding affects the smaller/quicker DLinemen more than it does the big/powerful ones. There has been a lot of holding against the Cowboys DL by both the Giants and Skins.

That had been us for so many years with big lumbering Oline reaching and holding the quicker DLine.

When we can jump out to a lead, it works. When the other team is running down your throat, it backfires.
 

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We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round. Prescott is a special player and you can see it from space. Romo is a better player and will start when he returns, but Dak is special. When Dak went onto the field down by 3 in the 4th Quarter, I KNEW he was going to take the team down the field for the winning score. And he did. He is going to be a special player.


This game was the 2014 plan, control the game with the offense and keep the defense off the field. The problem with that is that our DLine is atrocious until DLaw gets back and the rotational guys like Tapper and Davis (and possible Gregory) can take snaps. Irving played a lot today which helped, but any team will pick you apart if you can’t bring pressure – which is what Cousins almost did in the second half. On the sack by T. Crawford, we were playing an all – DT line of Crawford, McClain, Collins and Jack Crawford. He got the sack, but that lineup is a desperation move.


We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.


Give Claiborne his props, he is playing very well. Carr had a blown assignment but is much better as the 2nd or 3rd CB instead of trying to cover #1 WRs. Jones is settling into his role and I bet grades out well for this game. Even Church played well, though I think his pick was more of a bad pass by Cousins than a brilliant play by Church.


We drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.


Elliot played a lot better and Lynch’s comparison to LaDanien Tomlinson is spot on. He needs more time, but did much better today when he showed some patience. Free had some bad plays, but the OL is starting to play to its capabilities. And that is huge.


This game was example # 4,654,987 of how the Refs control the game. Not to favor one team, but to make sure the score stays close, fans don’t tune out and advertising revenue to the league stays high. Dallas played its 2014 game plan to control the game on offense, then up 10 – 0 Washington doesn’t convert a 3rd down but the refs make a ridiculous PI call on Claiborne to keep them in the game. If Dallas goes up 17 – 0, everyone turns off the game and the NFL loses money – which is why they didn’t let it happen. I thought the “in the grasp” sack of Dak late in the game was also a call to keep things close and not let Dallas pull ahead.


And my last point - we drafted Steve McNair in the 4th round.

Dak looks like the real deal and we may have got real lucky

Zeke: I could care less about the talent and the LT comparisons, he fumbled twice in his second NFL game and did exactly nothing in the first one. He should not start the next game to send a message to him loud and clear that this will but be tolerated. If the skins had recovered his second fumble we would likely have lost the game.

The defense is absolutely pathetic
 

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When was the last time a team transitioned from one excellent QB to another - and at their discretion? Joe Montana to Steve Young?

Green Bay and the Colts.

Colts at TBD, but Luck has the tools to be a great one.
 

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If like to know how many passing downs we rushed 4. Even if you leave four players in coverage it's a better option than allowing 6 seconds to throw the ball. We must blitz every down. Mix it up.
 

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FWIW, I love ADButcher, but Kaiser not sure I buy the McNair comparisons.

McNair was never the most accurate QB. He struggled much of his career with inconsistency and made up for it with a huge arm and good legs.
McNair was also a small school guy not a 4 year SEC starter.

I sense a professionalism about Dak and a true commitment to team. He's more substance than style.
McNair was a gunslinger. He would get hot and eat teams alive.
But he'd also have really off stretches. McNair was more like Romo than Dak imho.
Dak is just a composed, under control guy.
He doesn't try to win games in any one play.
He does throw it well on the run but he takes very few chances.
He plays smart, winning, almost old school football.
His decision to slide down instead of throw it away may very well have been a game winning decision.
You can see why Garrett (yes and Parcells) would be drawn to him. Very smart football player.
 

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In all fairness, I think a guy like RG3 can flash more and turn out to be junk because his game was based almost exclusively on his freakish running ability. He needed supernatural quickness to make it all work. Dak isn't just running around out there chucking the ball, he's making his reads and running the offense like a legitimate professional QB. RG3 was playing sandlot ball because his physical abilities were off the charts, when they weren't he couldn't get by on his mental ability. Dak isn't playing like that at all, his football acumen seems to be his strongest point.
That's reasonable
Go Cowboys!
 

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FWIW, I love ADButcher, but Kaiser not sure I buy the McNair comparisons.

I'm not saying Dak is a carbon copy of McNair, no QB is a clone of each other. Payton Manning and Eli Manning share the same DNA and I consider them to be Fredo and Michael Corleone in their level of play.

The point on McNair is that he wasn't the typical 6'6" immobile QB with a gun for an arm. He was a leader who had 3 Pro Bowls and an MVP award, who was mobile but not reckless.

And even then it took him several years to reach the level of running an offense the way Dak did yesterday. The best attribute Dak has is his preternatural calm and awareness. Someone else posted it (sorry I forget who) that that kind of calm is actually a Joe Montana quality. I'm not going to compare Dak to Montana, but if Dak continues on the same path I can definitely see the McNair comparison of a 6' 2" guy with a long career and multiple Pro Bowls.
 

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In all fairness, I think a guy like RG3 can flash more and turn out to be junk because his game was based almost exclusively on his freakish running ability. He needed supernatural quickness to make it all work. Dak isn't just running around out there chucking the ball, he's making his reads and running the offense like a legitimate professional QB. RG3 was playing sandlot ball because his physical abilities were off the charts, when they weren't he couldn't get by on his mental ability. Dak isn't playing like that at all, his football acumen seems to be his strongest point.

I totally agree, also RGIII is a guy that had questions about whether he would hold up physically. I have been saying that about Odell Beckham, guys like that are super talented but every NFL game is like being in several car wrecks in the same day.

Dak not only has the build (especially in his lower body) to hold up, he has a superior OL in front and an ability to glide in the pocket to avoid big hits.
 
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