Keep the team together if the Super Bowl is truly the goal

[dragon_mikal]

I have to admit that I was on the "who cares" bandwagon on Murray right after the Green Bay game because of how disappointed I was in the outcome but now that I've come to my senses I've decided that bringing him back is the only logical choice if competing for a Super Bowl in 2015 is the main goal of this franchise. (It should be.)

Many say they worry about the salary cap and the future and I agreed to a certain degree but my thinking has changed on this as well. I don't care. It ain't my money and I'm done worrying about the future. I've thought about the future for the last 14 years and I'm done. I want a Super Bowl and I want it now. I've waited long enough and this team is the best team I've had the pleasure of seeing since 2007 and letting go of such an important piece to it's success would be a mistake in my very humble opinion.

Murray is a great player that happens to be on a team with a great offensive line. Having both is a luxury the team can't afford to lose. This team is in win now mode and having a maybe at such an important position is unacceptable. This offense needs a workhorse back to function and I don't want to see the 2013 Cowboys show up next year because they lack a decent backfield.

So keep the offense together, Jerry. Go all in. Sign Dez and Murray and let's hit the ground running next year! Time is running out and having more room under the cap won't matter at all if the team you put on the field won't be able to compete for the only thing that really matters and that would be a Lombardi.

 

[xwalker]

I have to admit that I was on the "who cares" bandwagon on Murray right after the Green Bay game because of how disappointed I was in the outcome but now that I've come to my senses I've decided that bringing him back is the only logical choice if competing for a Super Bowl in 2015 is the main goal of this franchise. (It should be.)

Many say they worry about the salary cap and the future and I agreed to a certain degree but my thinking has changed on this as well. I don't care. It ain't my money and I'm done worrying about the future. I've thought about the future for the last 14 years and I'm done. I want a Super Bowl and I want it now. I've waited long enough and this team is the best team I've had the pleasure of seeing since 2007 and letting go of such an important piece to it's success would be a mistake in my very humble opinion.

Murray is a great player that happens to be on a team with a great offensive line. Having both is a luxury the team can't afford to lose. This team is in win now mode and having a maybe at such an important position is unacceptable. This offense needs a workhorse back to function and I don't want to see the 2013 Cowboys show up next year because they lack a decent backfield.

So keep the offense together, Jerry. Go all in. Sign Dez and Murray and let's hit the ground running next year! Time is running out and having more room under the cap won't matter at all if the team you put on the field won't be able to compete for the only thing that really matters and that would be a Lombardi.

If they Cowboys are 100% certain that Murray can replicate his 2014 season, then they would pay him whatever is required. The issue is that regardless of money, the history of RBs with that workload is not good in future seasons.

With the Cowboys OLine, management might feel that other RBs would actually be an upgrade over Murray.

 

[Nightman]

If they Cowboys are 100% certain that Murray can replicate his 2014 season, then they would pay him whatever is required. The issue is that regardless of money, the history of RBs with that workload is not good in future seasons.

With the Cowboys OLine, management might feel that other RBs would actually be an upgrade over Murray.

Last year was a historic year for Murray. He wouldn't have to duplicate it to be worth the money. Anything over 1250 yds and 10 TDs is worth 5-7m.

People have no problem giving Dez 12m+ but do you think he has to get 1300 yds and 16 TDs to earn it??

 

[Direwolf63]

If they Cowboys are 100% certain that Murray can replicate his 2014 season, then they would pay him whatever is required. The issue is that regardless of money, the history of RBs with that workload is not good in future seasons.

With the Cowboys OLine, management might feel that other RBs would actually be an upgrade over Murray.

I don't disagree, but I am concerned about pass protection. One of the reasons why Dunbar barely got on the field is because he's weak in pass protection.

If you replace Murray with a comparable back talent-wise but struggles in pass protection, that's a net loss. We all saw Romo get his collarbone broken because of a missed assignment from a RB.

If Murray is replaced, the Cowboys MUST make sure he is strong in pass protection as well as finding holes to run into.

 

[Danger]

Last year was a historic year for Murray. He wouldn't have to duplicate it to be worth the money. Anything over 1250 yds and 10 TDs is worth 5-7m.

People have no problem giving Dez 12m+ but do you think he has to get 1300 yds and 16 TDs to earn it??

Dez will consitently give you 1300 yards and 12+ TDs. There will hardly be a drop off in production from him. Meanwhile going from 1800 to 1200 is quite a drop for a 6 mil/yr RB when a rookie like Melvin Gordon could probably due that for much less.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I don't disagree, but I am concerned about pass protection. One of the reasons why Dunbar barely got on the field is because he's weak in pass protection.

If you replace Murray with a comparable back talent-wise but struggles in pass protection, that's a net loss. We all saw Romo get his collarbone broken because of a missed assignment from a RB.

If Murray is replaced, the Cowboys MUST make sure he is strong in pass protection as well as finding holes to run into.

This is what people aren't looking at. Murray the complete back. Is he going to replicate his yards again next season? Probably not.
Will he continue to be a very good blocker? Why not? Good out of the backfield? Why not? Still able to get yards? Yes.
Some key pieces of the offense are getting up there. Don't fool with the pieces now of all times.

 

[Future]

I think you could make the argument that Murray's fumble problems could be just as much a detriment to Dallas' SB hopes as his skills as a runner are a boon. I'd trade a whole butt load of those yards for him to hold onto the football.

 

[Nightman]

Dez will consitently give you 1300 yards and 12+ TDs. There will hardly be a drop off in production from him. Meanwhile going from 1800 to 1200 is quite a drop for a 6 mil/yr RB when a rookie like Melvin Gordon could probably due that for much less.

For 12m you could sign Murray, sign a DT and draft a WR. Look how good the rookie WRs did last year.

What I am saying is Dallas is close, has the money and should sign them both.

 

[Nightman]

I think you could make the argument that Murray's fumble problems could be just as much a detriment to Dallas' SB hopes as his skills as a runner are a boon. I'd trade a whole butt load of those yards for him to hold onto the football.

That's crazy. They went 13-5 last year after going 8-8 for 3 years. The dominant running game is what changed. A few fumbles have been magnified beyond belief.

Dez has more fumbles than Murray on a lot less touches.

 

[dragon_mikal]

I think you could make the argument that Murray's fumble problems could be just as much a detriment to Dallas' SB hopes as his skills as a runner are a boon. I'd trade a whole butt load of those yards for him to hold onto the football.

Emmitt Smith had more fumbles on less carries in 1995. Not saying Murray is Emmitt but I think the fumble issue is being blown out of proportion a bit. I'm sure he'll work on it this offseason.

 

[DFWJC]

Of course the SB is truly the goal.

 

[Danger]

For 12m you could sign Murray, sign a DT and draft a WR. Look how good the rookie WRs did last year.

What I am saying is Dallas is close, has the money and should sign them both.

Last year's rookie WR class was arguably the best in NFL history with its talent and depth. It's an anomaly and not the norm.

 

[YosemiteSam]

We should start the rebuilding process now.

 

[Nightman]

Last year's rookie WR class was arguably the best in NFL history with its talent and depth. It's an anomaly and not the norm.

Was it??? With all the spread offenses a lot of top athletes are switching to WR. They are making more money than RBs and have a longer shelf life. More WRs are making an immediate impact than ever before.

 

[Danger]

Was it??? With all the spread offenses a lot of top athletes are switching to WR. They are making more money than RBs and have a longer shelf life. More WRs are making an immediate impact than ever before.

Yes really. Look at the past three receiver classes. None of them even compare to last years

2011: Julio Jones, AJ Green, Titus Young, Lenard Hankerson, Austin Pettis, Randal Cobb
2012: Justin Blackmon, Michael Floyd, Kendall Wright, Reuban Randle, AJ Jenkins and Brian Quick
2013: Cordelle Patterson, TWill, Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, Justin Hunter

How many of those guys made an immediate impact or any impact at all on their respective teams like the 2014 class did?

Now you have RBs like Justin Forsett, Legarret Blount and Jeremy Hill being plugged into teams with OLs not even close to being as good as ours and producing for their teams.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Was it??? With all the spread offenses a lot of top athletes are switching to WR. They are making more money than RBs and have a longer shelf life. More WRs are making an immediate impact than ever before.

This team's focus is on ground and pound now. They've gone old school so forget about what other team's are doing. The offense doesn't work nearly as well without the trifecta of Romo, Murray and Dez. They're all three needed to get where they ultimately want to go and that's being crowned champions of the NFL.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I have to admit that I was on the "who cares" bandwagon on Murray right after the Green Bay game because of how disappointed I was in the outcome but now that I've come to my senses I've decided that bringing him back is the only logical choice if competing for a Super Bowl in 2015 is the main goal of this franchise. (It should be.)

Many say they worry about the salary cap and the future and I agreed to a certain degree but my thinking has changed on this as well. I don't care. It ain't my money and I'm done worrying about the future. I've thought about the future for the last 14 years and I'm done. I want a Super Bowl and I want it now. I've waited long enough and this team is the best team I've had the pleasure of seeing since 2007 and letting go of such an important piece to it's success would be a mistake in my very humble opinion.

Murray is a great player that happens to be on a team with a great offensive line. Having both is a luxury the team can't afford to lose. This team is in win now mode and having a maybe at such an important position is unacceptable. This offense needs a workhorse back to function and I don't want to see the 2013 Cowboys show up next year because they lack a decent backfield.

So keep the offense together, Jerry. Go all in. Sign Dez and Murray and let's hit the ground running next year! Time is running out and having more room under the cap won't matter at all if the team you put on the field won't be able to compete for the only thing that really matters and that would be a Lombardi.

This is logical, sensible, and shows a complete understanding of where this team is now and in the future. Bravo!

 

[Doomsday101]

I think you could make the argument that Murray's fumble problems could be just as much a detriment to Dallas' SB hopes as his skills as a runner are a boon. I'd trade a whole butt load of those yards for him to hold onto the football.

1st half of the season he did have issues. Last 9 games of the season and 225 plus carries he had 0 fumbles. 1st 8 games of the season he had 5 and finished the reg season with 5. I don't excuse his fumble vs GB

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

If they Cowboys are 100% certain that Murray can replicate his 2014 season, then they would pay him whatever is required. The issue is that regardless of money, the history of RBs with that workload is not good in future seasons.

With the Cowboys OLine, management might feel that other RBs would actually be an upgrade over Murray.

More than "production" I would like to see the chemistry and effectiveness continue. Doesn't have to be numbers per say... Just that bond.

But hey I will take the numbers

 

[Idgit]

Best way to win a Superbowl is to to stay competitive enough to take advantage of it when you get the breaks. That means address the pass rush, don't overextend on risky contracts, and fix the depth problem we have at the QB position so that we can remain competitive for a decade. We've got a coach with an eye for talent finally, and a staff that can develop that talent. Let's play to that strength and stay in position to win big games for a decade like the Steelers and the Patriots do (and the Cowboys used to).