Keeping Track of Keyshawn and TO

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Interesting final comment from pat kirwan of NFl.com

KEEPING TRACK OF KEYSHAWN JOHNSON AND TERRELL OWENS

A former Cowboys player told me last spring that somewhere during the season he wouldn't be surprised if Bill Parcells might have a comment or two for T.O. coming off the field after a less than perfect series by his new wide receiver. He said Parcells might say something like, "No. 19 would have made that block or No. 19 would have held on to that ball." Parcells admired Johnson's toughness and style of play, and there are some who believe Johnson should still be a Cowboy. That's water under the bridge, but what can't be helped is comparing the two wide receivers as the 2006 season moves along.

It is amazing how similar the opportunities have been for both wide receivers, and it surely doesn't go unnoticed by players around the league. The other day Parcells mentioned that Owens was the target five more times than any other receiver in the Eagles game, so that led me to figure out how many times Owens has been the target this season and how many times Johnson was the target for Carolina. Both players were the target the same number of times (40) this season, and when you consider Owens has played one less game, the truth is he's getting more opportunities than Johnson. In fact, Terry Glenn has only been the target 26 times in those games. Check out the production so far.

Name Target Receptions Yards Yards per catch TDs YAC
Keyshawn Johnson 40 27 373 13.8 2 87
Terrell Owens 40 17 232 13.6 1 89
Terry Glenn 26 20 290 14.5 3 83




Do the Cowboys need to throw to Glenn some more? I don't hear him calling for the ball, but then again, he was raised the right way by Parcells years ago. Maybe Johnson for less money should have been kept by the Cowboys, but he never talks about it because he too was raised right by Parcells. Maybe Owens just needs to take better advantage of the opportunities he gets while Parcells is trying to raise him the right way, or maybe you just can't teach an old player new tricks.

Stay tuned. And by the way, that former Cowboy who got me thinking about this whole thing, he says "it won't be long now."
 

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theebs;1088790 said:
Interesting final comment from pat kirwan of NFl.com

KEEPING TRACK OF KEYSHAWN JOHNSON AND TERRELL OWENS

A former Cowboys player told me last spring that somewhere during the season he wouldn't be surprised if Bill Parcells might have a comment or two for T.O. coming off the field after a less than perfect series by his new wide receiver. He said Parcells might say something like, "No. 19 would have made that block or No. 19 would have held on to that ball." Parcells admired Johnson's toughness and style of play, and there are some who believe Johnson should still be a Cowboy. That's water under the bridge, but what can't be helped is comparing the two wide receivers as the 2006 season moves along.

It is amazing how similar the opportunities have been for both wide receivers, and it surely doesn't go unnoticed by players around the league. The other day Parcells mentioned that Owens was the target five more times than any other receiver in the Eagles game, so that led me to figure out how many times Owens has been the target this season and how many times Johnson was the target for Carolina. Both players were the target the same number of times (40) this season, and when you consider Owens has played one less game, the truth is he's getting more opportunities than Johnson. In fact, Terry Glenn has only been the target 26 times in those games. Check out the production so far.

Name Target Receptions Yards Yards per catch TDs YAC
Keyshawn Johnson 40 27 373 13.8 2 87
Terrell Owens 40 17 232 13.6 1 89
Terry Glenn 26 20 290 14.5 3 83




Do the Cowboys need to throw to Glenn some more? I don't hear him calling for the ball, but then again, he was raised the right way by Parcells years ago. Maybe Johnson for less money should have been kept by the Cowboys, but he never talks about it because he too was raised right by Parcells. Maybe Owens just needs to take better advantage of the opportunities he gets while Parcells is trying to raise him the right way, or maybe you just can't teach an old player new tricks.

Stay tuned. And by the way, that former Cowboy who got me thinking about this whole thing, he says "it won't be long now."
terry was yelling at drew during the philly game too! all the great ones do it. chad johnson does it,steve smith, even jerry rice did it.
 

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theebs;1088790 said:
Name Target Receptions Yards Yards per catch TDs YAC
Keyshawn Johnson 40 27 373 13.8 2 87
Terrell Owens 40 17 232 13.6 1 89
Terry Glenn 26 20 290 14.5 3 83

Check this out ...


NFL Receptions

RankPlayer...........Team................RecYdsAvgTDsLong

1Marvin Harrison.......ND....432.....2...............13.8..............1.............38

2Laveranues.....NYJ........33.....431...........13.1..............1.............46.....

3Bernard Berrian.....CHI........19.....413..............21.7..............4.............62

4Andre Johnson.......HOU........30.....410..............13.7..............2.............53

5RoyWilliams.....DET........26.....391..............15.0..............1.............42

6Reggie Wayne......IND........21.....382..............18.2..............1.............41

7Marques Colston.......NO..........23.....374..............16.3..............3.............86

8KeyshawnJohnson.......CAR...........27.....373..............13.8..............2.............40


T.O. nor Glenn are on the NFL board ...interesting!
 

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I still beleive Keyshawn should be on the team, I was crushed when he left the team. It's funny that I had just bought a keyshawn jersey before he left.

:lmao2:
 

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Keyshawn was one of my favorite players from last years team, its a shame that a good hardworking guy got exchanged for lance armstrong and his 3 ring side show.
 

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Phoenix-Talon;1088818 said:
Thought this was an interesting thread



Check this out ...


NFL Receptions

RankPlayer...........Team................RecYdsAvgTDsLong

1Marvin Harrison.......ND....432.....2...............13.8..............1.............38

2Laveranues.....NYJ........33.....431...........13.1..............1.............46.....

3Bernard Berrian.....CHI........19.....413..............21.7..............4.............62

4Andre Johnson.......HOU........30.....410..............13.7..............2.............53

5RoyWilliams.....DET........26.....391..............15.0..............1.............42

6Reggie Wayne......IND........21.....382..............18.2..............1.............41

7Marques Colston.......NO..........23.....374..............16.3..............3.............86

8KeyshawnJohnson.......CAR...........27.....373..............13.8..............2.............40


T.O. nor Glenn are on the NFL board ...interesting!


Part of that is because we have only played four games and the other part is steve smith has missed 2 games so johnson had to be the guy.

Keyshawn was a good player here but people are so obsessed with the 80 yard play, that we havent seen yet anway, that they think he was the reason we werent scoring enough or something.

Had we had adams and columbo healthy last year along with a healthy julius jones, owens wouldnt be here because we would have been a playoff team.
 

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Funny I just watched keyshawns interview on nfl.com and he was asked about his meeting with the bucs and gruden two weeks ago and he said I dont go to the media and I dont need the media, then he said I am not Terrell Owens and the Dallas Cowboys!!

Pretty funny.
 

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As a Panther fan, I just want to say THANK YOU JERRY JONES! KJ has been everything we needed in a 2nd WR on and off the field. Some of you may remember me coming here and asking about KJ right after he signed with the Panthers because I was a little skeptical but, so far, he's been awsome. About the only thing I can find to complain about is when he almost knocked Deahaun Foster out when he ran that 43yd TD against the Saints. Keyshawn hit Foster harder while celebrating than the Saints defense did all day, LOL.

Anyway, don't get mad at me...I just couldn't resist chiming in. Good luck until we play each other.
 

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monstercat;1090433 said:
As a Panther fan, I just want to say THANK YOU JERRY JONES! KJ has been everything we needed in a 2nd WR on and off the field. Some of you may remember me coming here and asking about KJ right after he signed with the Panthers because I was a little skeptical but, so far, he's been awsome. About the only thing I can find to complain about is when he almost knocked Deahaun Foster out when he ran that 43yd TD against the Saints. Keyshawn hit Foster harder while celebrating than the Saints defense did all day, LOL.

Anyway, don't get mad at me...I just couldn't resist chiming in. Good luck until we play each other.

I am glad someone can appreciate him for the damn fine player he is.

I wish he were still here, he was nothing but a class act all around for us.
 

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monstercat;1090433 said:
As a Panther fan, I just want to say THANK YOU JERRY JONES! KJ has been everything we needed in a 2nd WR on and off the field. Some of you may remember me coming here and asking about KJ right after he signed with the Panthers because I was a little skeptical but, so far, he's been awsome. About the only thing I can find to complain about is when he almost knocked Deahaun Foster out when he ran that 43yd TD against the Saints. Keyshawn hit Foster harder while celebrating than the Saints defense did all day, LOL.

Anyway, don't get mad at me...I just couldn't resist chiming in. Good luck until we play each other.

Hey, treat Key right over there....he deserves it. :)
 

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LaTunaNostra;1090466 said:
Hey, treat Key right over there....he deserves it. :)
I guarantee you John Fox will treat him right. Everybody seems to love playing for him. The best thing is how much KJ seems to like playing with Delhomme...they already look like they've been playing together for years. There was an article in the local paper a couple of days ago where Keyshawn was saying that Delhomme listens to suggestions from other players as well as any QB that he's been with and that he couldn't care less about his stats, unlike most QBs. He said that other QBs he's played with worry about whether a play was a fumble or an incomplete pass because of how it looks on the stat sheet, while Jake couldn't tell you what his stats are if you asked him. It's funny because the guy who wrote the article predicted that signing KJ would be nothing but trouble. So far, he's been a model teammate.
 

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monstercat;1090487 said:
I guarantee you John Fox will treat him right. Everybody seems to love playing for him. The best thing is how much KJ seems to like playing with Delhomme...they already look like they've been playing together for years. There was an article in the local paper a couple of days ago where Keyshawn was saying that Delhomme listens to suggestions from other players as well as any QB that he's been with and that he couldn't care less about his stats, unlike most QBs. He said that other QBs he's played with worry about whether a play was a fumble or an incomplete pass because of how it looks on the stat sheet, while Jake couldn't tell you what his stats are if you asked him. It's funny because the guy who wrote the article predicted that signing KJ would be nothing but trouble. So far, he's been a model teammate.

A QB like Delhomme is a great fit. He has come up the hard way and knows his receivers make or breaks him, so he does go out of his way to "take care of them".

Another QB, who might have been "the man" since perhaps high school might not have the same mindset and will have a bigger ego.

This also might explain how Owens appears to be gravitating towards Romo and why there were reports of Johnson and Bledsoe "not getting along".
 

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Alexander;1090504 said:
A QB like Delhomme is a great fit. He has come up the hard way and knows his receivers make or breaks him, so he does go out of his way to "take care of them".

Another QB, who might have been "the man" since perhaps high school might not have the same mindset and will have a bigger ego.

This also might explain how Owens appears to be gravitating towards Romo and why there were reports of Johnson and Bledsoe "not getting along".
I got the feeling that when KJ was talking about QBs who worry about whether a play was a fumble or an incomplete pass that he was talking about Bledsoe, although he never used his name. That's just my opinion though.
 

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monstercat;1090487 said:
I guarantee you John Fox will treat him right. Everybody seems to love playing for him. The best thing is how much KJ seems to like playing with Delhomme...they already look like they've been playing together for years. There was an article in the local paper a couple of days ago where Keyshawn was saying that Delhomme listens to suggestions from other players as well as any QB that he's been with and that he couldn't care less about his stats, unlike most QBs. He said that other QBs he's played with worry about whether a play was a fumble or an incomplete pass because of how it looks on the stat sheet, while Jake couldn't tell you what his stats are if you asked him. It's funny because the guy who wrote the article predicted that signing KJ would be nothing but trouble. So far, he's been a model teammate.

Groan.

I know you came here in peace, but you're making me sick.

Violently so.

I've loved Key since he came into the league, every inch of the way, wherever he's been. And miss him too, too much.

Good night.

And enjoy your good fortune.
 
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