Keith Brooking stands up to Steve Dennis

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daschoo;3130690 said:
i would say that using a nation of people as a description for something you don't like is racist.
using the word american to describe obese people would be unacceptable and in my opinion racist, same with irish for stupid people or scottish for drunks. you're making a stereotype based on nationality which considering you were talking the other day about trying not to offend people i found surprising.
So it wasn't racist, but now it is again?

No, it wasn't. It was a joke about surrender. Jim Rome's callers use that joke on a daily basis. Stand up comedians tell jokes about the French giving up all the time. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3130699 said:
Man, this thread has taken a turn for the worst :cool: .


They always do.

Actual on topic football discussions last about 1 or 2 pages then its 25 pages of whatever argument pops up.

Its the reason the fan 105.3 doesnt work. people always think their thought is the most important and just talk about anything!!!!!
 

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Maikeru-sama;3130687 said:
This all may be true.

However, hearing Terence Newman on ESPN First Take earlier this year saying there was no "Accountability" among the coaching staff does refute the claim that players and coaches are being held accountable.

Then you have supposed Text Messages sent by a player to a member of the media after the Giants game saying it was the Same old same old from Wade Phillips.

IMO, 2 players on this roster have given Wade Phillips the opportunity to send a message and actually hold players accountable like Tom Coughlin was doing with Osi Umenyiora last game by benching him.

Terence Newman shoving his position coach and Flozell Adams either constantly jumping off sides, tripping people or shoving people, for which he was just fined for.

Benching those players for a quarter or more would have sent a decent message that players will be held accountable.

Nobody on this team is afraid to lose their playing time. And as Michael Irvin always says, taking away someone's playing time is the best way to modify their behavior.

Supposed Text Messages? The rest is your speculation what you perceive I would think the guys in the locker room know what is going on. As for benching players like Adam all you do is punish the team because now you are not going with your best players add to that we are thin at that position due to Columbo being injured so everyone has to suffer as well as putting your QB at risk. This is not high school or college
 

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theebs;3130205 said:
I just uploaded it.

I think as some were saying here, the media may have actually lit a fuse here....or it may just be brooking defending his personal friend, either way...


Give it a few minutes guys, its transcoding because I just uploaded it.
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I LOVE IT!!!

It is about time! Thank you Brookings.:bow:
 

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Maybe the players will stand up to the opposing teams just as well as they do the media.
 
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Maikeru-sama;3130699 said:
Man, this thread has taken a turn for the worst :cool: .


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Doomsday101;3130703 said:
Supposed Text Messages? The rest is your speculation what you perceive I would think the guys in the locker room know what is going on. As for benching players like Adam all you do is punish the team because now you are not going with your best players add to that we are thin at that position due to Columbo being injured so everyone has to suffer as well as putting your QB at risk. This is not high school or college

Terence Newman is in the locker room and he said there was no accountability among the Coaching Staff on ESPN's First Take. That is a fact, not speculation.

And yes, Terence Newman was talking about the 2008 Season but as far as the Coaches holding players accountable is concerned, has anything really changed all that much from this year and last year? We got rid of a few bad apples but the Coaching Staff is pretty much the same.

Actually, I think you hurt the team when you allow highly paid players to under perform week in and week out and never hold those players accountable.

Players are no different from normal workers like ourselves. If there is no fear of the consequences for negative actions, then the inmates began to run the asylum.

We can still make the Playoffs and have a successful season, however, accusations of no accountability in the Wade Phillips Era have been persistent and fans, media and some players have said it.
 

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Monster Heel;3130711 said:
They're doing an equally poor job at both already.


Interesting opinion.

I guess you missed the part where the raiders couldnt do anything against us and we kicked their tails, yet they beat cincy, philly and Pittsburgh.

Or perhaps you missed the Commanders game where they made it to the redzone 1 time and scored 6 points. Compare that to the other 4 games the skins have played since atlanta and well...one of these things is not like the other.

Same with the atlanta and philly games.

It hurts losing to NY, worse than any other team, but its just one game.

if we finish 8-8 or 9-7 then yeah they quit for some reason. But right now you cant say that.
 

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Monster Heel;3130664 said:
:rolleyes: @ this whole thread.

The Cowboys throw up that stinkbomb and people here refuse to believe this year is anything, but different. If the Cowboys are 0-4 going into the Philadelphia game with a chance to make playoffs, there will still be people here proclaiming they're going to do something besides get run off the field. The homerism here is just reaching sickening levels. I've said this a million times, it doesn't make you any less of a fan to see things the way they really are. As of December 9th 2009, the wheels are coming off. It's just a shame folks here have to shout down people who are staring reality in the face.

Reality means jack and squat to some fans. It's more important for them to project a positive pie-in-the-sky picture. Some of us can cheer with our hearts but post and discuss things using our minds. There does seem to be quite a few though who can only cheer and post with their hearts. Or they are just being willfully ignorant.
 

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Hostile;3130218 said:
Mostly because I am sick to death of our French fans. I would hate to go to war with some of the people here. I would hate to have to play a game with some of the people here. Beyond worthless.

We have some weak wristed individuals who would either faint when the going gets tough or live to tell the story afterward.

I want people with me who will stand back to back with me when I need them. Some of our fans rather applaud the enemy then stand up for those who they suppose to support, it is sickening.

I strongly suspect that we have a contingency of Commander, iggles, gent fans posing as Cowboy fans here. I listen to Sirius a lot and I never here other team fans calling in to rip on a team with a winning record, only the Cowboy fans that call in seems to have that problem.
 

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I just got a chance to watch the video. Steve Dennis was definately sweating LOL. Thanks for the video.

However, I know it is not popular but I have to disagree with Keith Brookings about his claim that former Decembers don't matter.

The past, especially if you have had great success and fantastic failures always has some type of effect on your current mental state.

If you have tanked the last few Decembers, is there any question that at least some of the players are going to start to get defensive and worried when December comes around because fans and the media keep harping on it.

It's just like when great players are told they cannot win the big one. I believe those players hear those criticisms and I think it can have an effect on their mental state.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3130234 said:
:lmao2: :lmao: :bow:

That was awesome!

These media idiots are so self-absorbed, they really think it's all about them. Yesterday on GAC, between MacMahon and Dennis, they talked about that PC exchange for a good hour, all taking turns backslapping each other for how cool they are.

It amazes me that they still think press conferences are the be-all and end-all.

Thanks again theebs.

And Keith, you are the MAN!
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Wow Brooking really surprises me every week on the field and out the field.
I like him.
 

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Double Trouble;3130245 said:
:lmao: Fluke plays. Just like the ones in the first Giant game, right?

Those weren't fluke plays anymore than the Ravens having back to back 70 or 80 yard runs was. Those were massive breakdowns in the D and ST. Which we've seen repeatedly when crunch time hits, and will continue to see as long as we have moron head coaches hired by our glory hungry owner.

SLATEmosphere;3130254 said:
I rarely see you here after wins.

You always seem to pop off when we start losing again.

Odd.
Not odd but quite revealing.
 

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theebs;3130718 said:
Interesting opinion.

I guess you missed the part where the raiders couldnt do anything against us and we kicked their tails, yet they beat cincy, philly and Pittsburgh.

Or perhaps you missed the Commanders game where they made it to the redzone 1 time and scored 6 points. Compare that to the other 4 games the skins have played since atlanta and well...one of these things is not like the other.

Same with the atlanta and philly games.

It hurts losing to NY, worse than any other team, but its just one game.

if we finish 8-8 or 9-7 then yeah they quit for some reason. But right now you cant say that.

I agree with this.

People ripped me before and after the Giants game for saying this was just one game.

I have always said, the main reason people were so devastated by this loss was because they wrote the New York Giants off.

I have this weird feeling that the Giants about to make a rally get into the Playoffs.
 

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theebs;3130718 said:
Interesting opinion.

I guess you missed the part where the raiders couldnt do anything against us and we kicked their tails, yet they beat cincy, philly and Pittsburgh.

Or perhaps you missed the Commanders game where they made it to the redzone 1 time and scored 6 points. Compare that to the other 4 games the skins have played since atlanta and well...one of these things is not like the other.

Same with the atlanta and philly games.

It hurts losing to NY, worse than any other team, but its just one game.

if we finish 8-8 or 9-7 then yeah they quit for some reason. But right now you cant say that.

7-17. That's where the Commanders and Raiders are at combined. Those are the kinds of teams the Cowboys have feasted on. It doesn't impress me to see them win games like that because that's what they do.

Atlanta is also a paper tiger. Outside of the Georgia Dome, they're not worth talking about.

We know the Cowboys can fry the small potatoes, there just aren't many left to put in the fryer. That's the thing that's alarming about the Cowboys losing to the Giants is because they failed to come up big against a quality opponent yet again and they have how many of those left on the schedule?

Philly is the only quality win the Cowboys have through 13 weeks of football and let's be fair. The Cowboys probably come up short again without THE SPOT.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3130715 said:
Terence Newman is in the locker room and he said there was no accountability among the Coaching Staff on ESPN's First Take. That is a fact, not speculation.

And yes, Terence Newman was talking about the 2008 Season but as far as the Coaches holding players accountable is concerned, has anything really changed all that much from this year and last year? We got rid of a few bad apples but the Coaching Staff is pretty much the same.

Actually, I think you hurt the team when you allow highly paid players to under perform week in and week out and never hold those players accountable.

Players are no different from normal workers like ourselves. If there is no fear of the consequences for negative actions, then the inmates began to run the asylum.

We can still make the Playoffs and have a successful season, however, accusations of no accountability in the Wade Phillips Era have been persistent and fans, media and some players have said it.

Did anything change since 2008? Yes problem players were let go people who caused problems were let go despite the fact some of those players where key player on the team and yes that sends a message of if they are willing to eat 9 million and cut that player I could be next and if I’m not willing to tow the line I’m out of there so yes the fact of losing your job on the team does have a real affect and does show some accountability to the rest of the team. Accountability has nothing to do with the fans they are not accountable to you or me they are accountable to the organization and their teammates

Funny the only ones who dispute what Brooking is saying as well as what the Charger players have been saying about Wade is fans and media who are not there and do not know.

You have your personal view which of course you are entitled to but you do not play on the team you are not there so tell me why should what you perceive matter more than what the players who are there day in and day out and know what the real deal is has to say
 

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Monster Heel;3130736 said:
7-17. That's where the Commanders and Raiders are at combined. Those are the kinds of teams the Cowboys have feasted on. It doesn't impress me to see them win games like that because that's what they do.

Atlanta is also a paper tiger. Outside of the Georgia Dome, they're not worth talking about.

We know the Cowboys can fry the small potatoes, there just aren't many left to put in the fryer. That's the thing that's alarming about the Cowboys losing to the Giants is because they failed to come up big against a quality opponent yet again and they have how many of those left on the schedule?

Philly is the only quality win the Cowboys have through 13 weeks of football and let's be fair. The Cowboys probably come up short again without THE SPOT.


In oaklands last 3 games, they are 2-1. They beat cincy, lost to dallas and won at pittsburgh. Thats pretty good.

We got washingtons best shot and held them off at the end. they have been playing well over the last month.

Atlanta was 4-1 with their qb and running back healthy when they roled in here. The team atlanta is fielding right now is not the same team that was healthy and on a high when we beat them.

We lost to the giants, It sucks. A win over San Diego could be huge. Almost as big as beating NY.

this notion that we havent beat anyone is goofy. Philly has beat the same teams as us, and we beat them, but I bet you would act like they are some incredible franchise.
 
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