Kiper Top 100 overall 4/22/14....

[Risen Star]

The latest offering from your royal hairness. He still won't answer my calls as to why he stopped publishing the blue bible.

Click the link for commentary.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...61/2014-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-top-100-prospects

• An asterisk denotes a junior at the time of draft entry; two asterisks denote a redshirt sophomore.


1. *Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
2. *Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
3. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
4. **Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
5. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan

6. **Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
7. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
8. *Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
9. C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
10. Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame

11. Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
12. *Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
13. *Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
14. Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
15. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State

16. *Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
17. *Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida
18. **Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
19. *Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
20. *Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State

21. *Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
22. Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
23. *Marqise Lee, WR, USC
24. Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
25. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin

26. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
27. **Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
28. *Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
29. *Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
30. Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State

31. **Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
32. *Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
33. *Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
34. Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State
35. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota

36. *David Yankey, G, Stanford
37. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
38. Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
39. *Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
40. Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech

41. *Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
42. *Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA
43. *Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
44. *Marcus Martin, C, USC
45. Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn

46. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
47. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
48. *Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
49. *Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State
50. Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois

51. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama
52. Ja'Wuan James, OT, Tennessee
53. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
54. Lamarcus Joyner, CB, Florida State
55. *Tre Mason, RB, Auburn

56. *Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
57. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
58. Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford
59. Dri Archer, RB, Kent State
60. *Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU

61. *Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
62. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
63. *Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
64. Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State
65. *Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson

66. *Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
67. Joel Bitonio, G, Nevada
68. Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State
69. **Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
70. Keith McGill, CB, Utah

71. Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia
72. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
73. *Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
74. *Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
75. Josh Huff, WR, Oregon

76. *Donte Moncrief, WR, Mississippi
77. Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State
78. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
79. Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson
80. Terrence Brooks, S, Florida State

81. *De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
82. Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming
83. *Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
84. Marcus Smith, DE, Louisville
85. Lamin Barrow, OLB, LSU

86. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
87. Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech
88. Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
89. Brent Urban, DL, Virginia
90. Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana

91. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
92. Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
93. *Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
94. *Russell Bodine, C, North Carolina
95. DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State

96. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
97. *Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
98. *Dominique Easley, DT, Florida
99. Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
100. Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon

 

[Tex]

we better pray a bunch of folks think more highly of the QB's.

 

[waving monkey]

If you want a trade down in this scenario it looks pretty good

 

[Gaede]

Interesting. QBs not well thought of and Lewan ahead of Matthews. Jernigan, Ford, and Lawrence not in top 30.

Definitely presents trade down options.

 

[reddyuta]

we better pray a bunch of folks think more highly of the QB's.

nah.Its gives us more opportunities for a trade down,somebody might even give us their 2nd rd pick for a moving to 16.

 

[Nirvana]

Clearly, then, both “experts” (Kiper and McShay) have been both on-point and wildly off-base with their draft predictions over the past few years. On the whole, neither’s rankings are very accurate. If a player is listed in the Top 25 by either scout, that players will, on average, be in the top forty or sixty players from their draft class, but he is absolutely not guaranteed to be one of the very best players from his year. Furthermore, none of the differences between the average errors of Kiper and McShay are statistically significant: the differences between them are likely more due to luck than actual skill. In other words, you could take Kiper’s “Big Board” or McShay’s Top 25 and ask any random person to put them in any random order, and on average, that person’s rankings will be about as accurate as predicting future NFL success than any of ESPN’s two experts.

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpr...mel-kiper-jr-and-todd-mcshays-draft-rankings/

 

[tm1119]

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpr...mel-kiper-jr-and-todd-mcshays-draft-rankings/

Let's bash the guy on espn because it's easy!

Whether you want to admit it or not kiper is one of the best guys out there for the draft.

 

[texbumthelife]

Let's bash the guy on espn because it's easy!

Whether you want to admit it or not kiper is one of the best guys out there for the draft.

No, he's really not and hasn't been for quite a while. He is knowledgable about players but his predictions have gotten further and further from reality. The best guys doing this aren't on TV, they're in NFL war rooms. If ESPN really wants an expert, they'll go get one of those guys.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

 

[Fredd]

I love stuff like this (thanx for posting @Risen Star)...but, some of it looks a little lazy to me...it's like he decided that Bridgewater was #16 and then realized "wait, I didn't put Bortles or Manziel in there yet" and then slotted them next

 

[burmafrd]

Yeah, Kiper has fallen in love with his own intellect and is getting worse and worse. All he thinks of now is soundbites.

 

[morasp]

If it did go like that we could get Barr in the first and/or Attaochu in the second

 

[Zimmy Lives]

No, he's really not and hasn't been for quite a while. He is knowledgable about players but his predictions have gotten further and further from reality. The best guys doing this aren't on TV, they're in NFL war rooms. If ESPN really wants an expert, they'll go get one of those guys.

In fairness to Madame de Pompadour Kiper, this is just his ranking according to their talent. I will be more interested in his opinion concerning the order in which he perceives they are valued by teams and where they may be drafted.

 

[jterrell]

various:
Kiper doesnt publish a draft guide because ESPN pays him not too.
He is their product through and through and they own his draft expertise. --ESPN thanks for your insider donations.

Kiper nor McShay has been even in the top 10 of draft gurus the past decade.
Goose Gosselin was back when he worked for a living.

I appreciate all Kiper did to bring draft focus and interest to new levels but anyone with a brain can see he is a mess now.
Mocks guys all over the friggin place, rates guys everywhere throughout the process.
He's got more butt covered than a politician.
His job is to entertain not scout... unfortunately.

So take these ratings for what they are worth, which is basically nothing.

IF NFL GMS view this draft talent like Kiper we are in for a motherlode of a draft because QBs will go half a round above value.
That means 3 or 4 will be gone by the Dallas pick and a team might offer us a sweetheart deal to come up and take Carr who is the last of the r1 values at QB.

Unfortunately pass rushers will also rise.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Thanks Risen! I still like Kiper. Who cares if he is not the draft guru of all draft gurus. His opinions are informative if only taken as an opinion and he has had way more exposure to the players and teams than me.