Kirk Cousins Mic'd Up

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Also, we're projected to have 50 mil in cap space this offseason. Giving Kirk a big contract isn't going to restrict us. And the better front offices build through the draft anyway. We don't plan on being be players in the free agency market and haven't been so for years.


You just spent a ton of money on Josh Norman...
 

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You keep comparing him to QBs who've never performed on the current level he's performing. Last year everyone here was calling him the next Foles. Since he's proven he's not a one season fluke, not the current narrative is to compare him to mediocre/average QBs while ignoring that none of those QBs have performed this well.

There is this misguided perception from NFL fans that if a QB isn't Brady, Rodgers or Peyton then he's **** and not worth a long term deal. The reality is those guys are future HoFers, and even they don't win the Super Bowl every year. You don't need an elite QB to win a championship. You need a very good QB, a solid front office that drafts well, and a dominant defense. So you can laugh when Washington signs him to a long term deal, you won't be laughing for long.
 

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You just spent a ton of money on Josh Norman...

You don't pay attention very well. WHEN did we spend money on Norman? Well after the spending spree was over and no one else had any cap space to outbid us. Norman's case was unusual. If Carolina had never franchise tagged him he'd be a New York giant right now.
 

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You don't pay attention very well. WHEN did we spend money on Norman? Well after the spending spree was over and no one else had any cap space to outbid us. Norman's case was unusual. If Carolina had never franchise tagged him he'd be a New York giant right now.


During Free Agency....
 

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You keep comparing him to QBs who've never performed on the current level he's performing. Last year everyone here was calling him the next Foles. Since he's proven he's not a one season fluke, not the current narrative is to compare him to mediocre/average QBs while ignoring that none of those QBs have performed this well.

There is this misguided perception from NFL fans that if a QB isn't Brady, Rodgers or Peyton then he's **** and not worth a long term deal. The reality is those guys are future HoFers, and even they don't win the Super Bowl every year. You don't need an elite QB to win a championship. You need a very good QB, a solid front office that drafts well, and a dominant defense. So you can laugh when Washington signs him to a long term deal, you won't be laughing for long.


Like I said... His "level" of play is an illusion..

Fall for those numbers if you want. He's just a middle of the road guy.

I hope Washington gets suckered by it. I really do.

Again.. I think he's solid but that's where it ends. He's nothing special.
 

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Cousins is a solid QB. I'd prefer they had a worse QB (Like their first love RG3) but I wouldn't be heartbroken if they keep this guy around for years.

He's a solid QB whose going to have big games at times, and he'll even beat Dallas here and there. But he wouldn't ever give me the impression that it was a game we couldn't win because he was their QB.

So I'd like for them to lock him up and keep him.

He'll be good enough, to keep them good, and keep the rivalry with them meaning something like it should.
 

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He gets rid of the ball quick. That offense lets him find a guy open underneath the coverage almost every play.. In turn he has a insane completion percentage because of it.

Most dominant offenses use a short passing game to supplement the lack of a running game. This is nothing new or revolutionary. There will come a point in time when you can't take his every accolade and give the credit to someone or something else.
 

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Mother of Jaysus, do you even read back over the ridiculous crap you type?

It's only ridiculous to people who barely understand football. Like yourself. You've proven that with every post you make.
 

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15mil a year won't get your a Ryan Fitzpatrick in this market. 20+ million for QBs who perform like Kirk. You'll see in 3 years when it's Dak's turn.

Where on the Commanders do you see a unit that is perfect? Even the offense isn't perfect. We have a barely decent running game to take the pressure off him. And a play caller that telegraphs everything in the redzone. He's a top 10 QB in this league right now, snd thjs is just his second season as the full-time starter getting starters reps with more attention paid to his development in the offseason.

You said you would take Eli over him, yet as a full time starter he's outperformed Eli for two seasons and Eli is the one throwing to one of the top 5 WRs in the league.
Yep. They offer anything under $20M and he'll end up elsewhere. That's just the cost of doing business in the QB market these days. And you're right...if Dak continues on his current trajectory (and the team is set up for him to do just that), we'll be paying out the wazoo in a few years.
 

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Yep. They offer anything under $20M and he'll end up elsewhere. That's just the cost of doing business in the QB market these days. And you're right...if Dak continues on his current trajectory (and the team is set up for him to do just that), we'll be paying out the wazoo in a few years.

I hate to say it, but Dak has all the intangibles needed to continue to progress and get better in the offseason as well as the games. He's a keeper, not sure what kind of QB he will eventually be. But he will be very good, and you guys will need to break the bank. Which I'm sure JJ has no problem doing. It might make it easier if Romo's deal is no longer on the books by then.
 

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I hate to say it, but Dak has all the intangibles needed to continue to progress and get better in the offseason as well as the games. He's a keeper, not sure what kind of QB he will eventually be. But he will be very good, and you guys will need to break the bank. Which I'm sure JJ has no problem doing. It might make it easier if Romo's deal is no longer on the books by then.
Having to pay big bucks for a quality QB is a good problem to have. If Dak continues to progress and be what we think he is (at this early stage), then I have no problem giving him franchise money. Obviously, you feel the same about Cousins. Personally, I believe Cousins is worth a new franchise deal, and I think he'll get it. If a club refuses to pay the going rate for a good QB, they'll lose him every time. Not to say that every time you pay one, it is the right thing to do (Brock Osweiller!!!), but you sure as hell ain't going to get one if you don't fork over the bucks!
 

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I like Cousins, and you have to pay him in this QB market. But he's going to end up getting a premium that really belongs to the coach's system. It's a perfect fit for his skills.

A lot of his production is system and not QB, but market rate is market rate and there isn't a comparable alternative out there, so you have to pay the guy what you think the least-risky QB needy team would offer. It sucks, but hey, you'll be set at QB for 4 years.
 

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You don't pay attention very well. WHEN did we spend money on Norman? Well after the spending spree was over and no one else had any cap space to outbid us. Norman's case was unusual. If Carolina had never franchise tagged him he'd be a New York giant right now.

It sounds like what you are saying is, the Commanders had no one to bid against, yet they made him the highest paying corner.

http://overthecap.com/position/cornerback/
 

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It sounds like what you are saying is, the Commanders had no one to bid against, yet they made him the highest paying corner.

http://overthecap.com/position/cornerback/

What I'm saying, and what the Giants actions proved(they WAY overpaid for Janoris Jenkins), was if Norman was never franchised he would've been given even more money by the Giants. Yes, they gave him 75 million and only two other teams could make credible offers. But if he was going to sign for less than that he would've never been franchised and would still be a Panther.
 

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It's only ridiculous to people who barely understand football. Like yourself. You've proven that with every post you make.

Every year you waddle on here chest puffed out about how some player is the future of your team and how we should be scared. Every year you scurry away with your tail tucked into your taint. It's getting old and you are full of crap. Which you have proved over and over again.
 

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Every year you waddle on here chest puffed out about how some player is the future of your team and how we should be scared. Every year you scurry away with your tail tucked into your taint. It's getting old and you are full of crap. Which you have proved over and over again.

*yawn*

First off, your reading comprehension skills are worst than your football knowledge. When did I say you should be afraid of Kirk? At the most, I said those who are laughing at a long-term deal won't be laughing for long. Since you read at a 5th grade level, this means he will prove he is worthy of the contract, not that he is going to annually sweep your precious Cowboys. Learn how to read before you start running off at the mouth.

And never have I scurried anywhere. I've posted here consistently for years, and for years, low level thinkers like yourself have continued to claim I've somehow stopped posting when the season started for whatever reason. Some of the said the same this offseason when I spoke about Cousins, and here I am still posting here and there he is, proving he wasn't Nick Foles. Maybe some of you should man up and admit you were wrong. No surprise that you only speak this boldly when your team is winning. I would call you a frontrunning clown, but I'm a guest here and I like to remain as cordial as possible.
 
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