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About our linebackers Would we have approached the draft differently from rounds 2-7 I like the kid from ND we got in the 1st, but how would some of you think we would do different?
 

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I actually still like the Martin pick because it gives this team a real strength.

Had we got Shazier he wouldn't have made a bit of difference with the complete lack of talent on that side of the ball.
 

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About our linebackers Would we have approached the draft differently from rounds 2-7 I like the kid from ND we got in the 1st, but how would some of you think we would do different?

There were not really any LBs in the 2nd round and later that were a lock to be starters as rookies.

At the time of the draft they had:
Lee - Obviously he was probably 50-50 to stay healthy.
Wilber - They seemed to like him as a SLB last year.
Holloman - Talent looked really good for a rookie in 2013.
Durant - Steady NFL veteran.
Carter - The probabilty was that he should improve in the 2nd year in the scheme. He's shown NFL ability in the past.

With those players on the team, then they drafted Hitchens in the 4th and Smith in the 7th.

It seemed like a reasonable plan after their initial plan to get an instant starter (Shazier) in the 1s round didn't work out.

People had the same complaint about Frederick last year that they had about Hitchens this year, that he was drafted too early. Well obviously, the complaining about Fred seems silly now. Who knows how Hitchens will turn out. He's looks exactly like you would expect a 4th round LB to look this preseason. Will Smith has been injured for most of camp, but he looks like a guy that could at least develop into a decent Nickel type LB in time.

If they were really desparate, they could sign some decent stopgap veterans. A 4-3 LB is not the most difficult or expensive position to find in free agency. They could sign Kevin Burnett right now who is only 31 and my understanding is that he's healthy. He has started all 16 games for each of the past 4 years. The Raiders cut him, in part because they have some good young LBs and they used a top 10 pick on a LB in the draft. I don't remember the exact number, but Burnett was due to make several million this year, so it's not surprising that they cut him after they drafted Mack.
 

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Yeah, I hope I'd have resisted the urge to draft for need. I did like a couple players better than Hitchens at that spot, though. I'm looking forward to seeing him play with the 1s and 2s again this week, though, and hoping he develops into a player who can give us some snaps.
 

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cut downs are coming.. Some team with LB depth will try to sneak a couple on the PS. We have WR depth.. trades could be made too..
 

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Why live or talk about the past? It's a done deal. Why not look forward to what is?

I have seen you lecture those who discuss what is and tell them you can't say for sure since we don't know the future.

This now makes it crystal clear why your posts aren't about football. You can't talk about the past or future.

I guess this board will be shutting down soon,.
 

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We made the right pick but since we are hypothetically speaking I was tempted to trade up for Donald, draft Sean Lee's replacement, and lastly take Kony Ealy....
 

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I actually still like the Martin pick because it gives this team a real strength.

Had we got Shazier he wouldn't have made a bit of difference with the complete lack of talent on that side of the ball.

Fwiw, he did say rds 2-7.
 

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There were not really any LBs in the 2nd round and later that were a lock to be starters as rookies.

At the time of the draft they had:
Lee - Obviously he was probably 50-50 to stay healthy.
Wilber - They seemed to like him as a SLB last year.
Holloman - Talent looked really good for a rookie in 2013.
Durant - Steady NFL veteran.
Carter - The probabilty was that he should improve in the 2nd year in the scheme. He's shown NFL ability in the past.

With those players on the team, then they drafted Hitchens in the 4th and Smith in the 7th.

It seemed like a reasonable plan after their initial plan to get an instant starter (Shazier) in the 1s round didn't work out.

People had the same complaint about Frederick last year that they had about Hitchens this year, that he was drafted too early. Well obviously, the complaining about Fred seems silly now. Who knows how Hitchens will turn out. He's looks exactly like you would expect a 4th round LB to look this preseason. Will Smith has been injured for most of camp, but he looks like a guy that could at least develop into a decent Nickel type LB in time.

If they were really desparate, they could sign some decent stopgap veterans. A 4-3 LB is not the most difficult or expensive position to find in free agency. They could sign Kevin Burnett right now who is only 31 and my understanding is that he's healthy. He has started all 16 games for each of the past 4 years. The Raiders cut him, in part because they have some good young LBs and they used a top 10 pick on a LB in the draft. I don't remember the exact number, but Burnett was due to make several million this year, so it's not surprising that they cut him after they drafted Mack.

Your very first line: There were not really any LBs in the 2nd round and later that were a lock to be starters as rookies.

It was a zinger...you could have obviously stopped there, but the unlead still wouldn't have understood.

Thanks for the clarity as well...I still like Burnett, and Dallas could bring out some latent loyalty in him I feel.
 

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I would think so. We chose the wrong player.

Another thought...his attitudes helped to bring out the TO's and later Pac Men of the league as well.

I still would have been happy sticking with a Darren Woodson type of a player. As to Greg Ellis, he wasn't a below player at all.
 

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this is a forum

I'm still amazed at those kind of responses, this forum exists because fans wanna vent, discuss, just be "heard".......Nothing we say really matters anyway so all topics are fair game.....I can't wait when posters remind other posters not to "look past" a certain team, as if it freaking matters lol
 
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