Lamar Miller latest update; Going to sign with Texans

[phildadon86]

Bleacher report just iss

For 500k we are going to lose out on a legitimate player. Awesome news. IM all for being frugal but this is hilarious.

 

[Nightman]

Done
Chris Ivory to JAX at 6m
Murray to TEN 6.5m to 8m

Rumor
Baldwin back to TB 7m
LMiller to HOU 6.5m

 

[SHAMSzy]

I'm all in for Miller rather than misusing the #4 overall draft pick on the easiest position to acquire in football. You use it to get the most difficult position to acquire - a starting quarterback.

You can get a top running back in free agency.

You can't even get a mediocre one like Sam Bradford in free agency.

This is a great point -- but if the team believes Elliot will be an All-Pro RB, and that Goff will be a Chad Pennington type of player, you have to go Elliot. You don't need to draft a QB in the top 5 to find a franchise QB.

List of QB's selected 2nd-5th from 2000-2012: (not including Mariota/Bortles because jury is still out)
Robert Griffin III - 2nd
Mark Sanchez - 5th
Matt Ryan - 3rd
Vince Young - 3rd
Philip Rivers - 4th
Joey Harrington - 3rd

Love Rivers, Matt Ryan is alright.. but I'm not impressed in your odds of finding a stud in the top 5 outside of the #1 pick.

Current franchise QBs in the NFL:

Cam Newton: 1st pick
Andrew Luck: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick
Carson Palmer: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick

Philip Rivers: 4th pick

Ben Roethlisberger: 11th pick

Aaron Rodgers: 24th overall
Drew Brees: 2nd rounder
Russell Wilson: 3rd rounder

Tom Brady: 6th rounder
Tony Romo: undrafted

I think it is ill advised to say drafting a QB at 4 is better value than drafting another player that you believe in. Not saying Elliot should be the pick, it should be whoever the Best Player Available is based on our scouts or a trade down. Whether this is a QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB, that is OK. We should not pick a QB just because we are #4 and we will not have a better opportunity to select a QB in the future. We need to pick the guy that our scouts believe will become an All-Pro in this league.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Miller needs to visit Dallas...

 

[superonyx]

Bleacher report just iss


For 500k we are going to lose out on a legitimate player. Awesome news. IM all for being frugal but this is hilarious.

Hey we might need that 500k to give to another Tyrone Crawford type of player to assure they don't ever hit free agency.

This team may have turned against the running back position in a troubling way.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Miller wouldn't have been caught on those 2 huge runs against Green Bay

 

[SportsGuru80]

Bob Sturm wrote a great article...

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...-free-agency-week-question-spend-running-back

 

[yesfan]

Miller can go across the middle or in the backfield catching passes. Behind this Oline he can get great yardage and he's not getting caught from behind. He is young and imo, the Cowboys should jump in and try to convince him he should be a Cowboy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Bleacher report just iss


For 500k we are going to lose out on a legitimate player. Awesome news. IM all for being frugal but this is hilarious.

Where does it say we are going to lose out on him? Oh, it doesn't.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Cowboys won't be in the running to get Miller and we won't be drafting a RB. Lets face it. The FO is so deep into believing that anyone can run behind this oline and try to prove to the public that their right - they won't do the right thing. The Jones's egos are bigger than the size of Texas and they would rather be wrong in trying to prove it.

 

[ConstantReboot]

This is a great point -- but if the team believes Elliot will be an All-Pro RB, and that Goff will be a Chad Pennington type of player, you have to go Elliot. You don't need to draft a QB in the top 5 to find a franchise QB.

List of QB's selected 2nd-5th from 2000-2012: (not including Mariota/Bortles because jury is still out)
Robert Griffin III - 2nd
Mark Sanchez - 5th
Matt Ryan - 3rd
Vince Young - 3rd
Philip Rivers - 4th
Joey Harrington - 3rd

Love Rivers, Matt Ryan is alright.. but I'm not impressed in your odds of finding a stud in the top 5 outside of the #1 pick.

Current franchise QBs in the NFL:

Cam Newton: 1st pick
Andrew Luck: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick
Carson Palmer: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick

Philip Rivers: 4th pick

Ben Roethlisberger: 11th pick

Aaron Rodgers: 24th overall
Drew Brees: 2nd rounder
Russell Wilson: 3rd rounder

Tom Brady: 6th rounder
Tony Romo: undrafted

I think it is ill advised to say drafting a QB at 4 is better value than drafting another player that you believe in. Not saying Elliot should be the pick, it should be whoever the Best Player Available is based on our scouts or a trade down. Whether this is a QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB, that is OK. We should not pick a QB just because we are #4 and we will not have a better opportunity to select a QB in the future. We need to pick the guy that our scouts believe will become an All-Pro in this league.

Better yet - go get Miller for 7 million and call it a day. That way we won't have to spend a top draft pick on a running back.

 

[reddyuta]

Sorry but we shouldnt pay a RB 7 million,use that money on the getting a good Dt and DE and go big on a CB.

 

[Idgit]

Bleacher report just iss


For 500k we are going to lose out on a legitimate player. Awesome news. IM all for being frugal but this is hilarious.

You can't really be both for being frugal and then complain that we don't sign a relatively expensive young FA right out of the gate.

We're not going to break the bank on anybody in FA. That's what being frugal is all about. This team fills gaps after the first week of FA, and then builds through the draft and CFA. That's the model, and there's no reason to expect it to change this offseason. In fact, I'm not sure why we'd want it to.

Also, it's a RB, for crying out loud. If you don't get your guy, add on in the 3rd or 4th round and call it a draw.

 

[Bullflop]

Between Houston and Miami trying to outbid one another, it looks like the kind of contract necessary to attract Lamar Miller is escalating beyond a level that Dallas is likely to welcome.

Faced with the prospect of doling out the kind of money needed to sign Miller, Dallas certainly seems to be left with their comfort zone being within the confines of the upcoming draft.

 

[EPL0c0]

i just don't see the use of paying big for a vet RB that isn't a total stud RB (there are like 3 in the league).

There is some decent RB depth in this year's draft (not as deep as '15). Cheaper option with similar risk/upside as most FA RBs.

I'd rather they go Ramsey or Dline at #4

 

[superonyx]

Sorry but we shouldnt pay a RB 7 million,use that money on the getting a good Dt and DE and go big on a CB.

We already did. Tyrone Craford is stealing 8 million per year as an underperforming DT. How much money do you want to tie up in that position while we scrape the bottom of the talent barrel on every running back we bring in.

 

[SHAMSzy]

I will be pissed if we sign Miller for 7 mil.. Much rather draft a RB and use that money on defense. Glad that it seems like the FO is being frugal, wouldn't be ecstatic with getting Powell on a cheap contract.

 

[mattjames2010]

We already did. Tyrone Craford is stealing 8 million per year as an underperforming DT. How much money do you want to tie up in that position while we scrape the bottom of the talent barrel on every running back we bring in.

Look at the DT market, Crawford's contract is not bad for his production. The best DTs in the league are paid nearly double his amount, or those DTs are still on their rookie deals and will be getting huge pay days. His contract is reasonable.

What should Crawford's production be? We're not paying him like a double digit sack DT, stop pretending we are. He had good DT numbers last year, while playing injured. Why people think we can get every player for scrub money is beyond me.

 

[mattjames2010]

I will be pissed if we sign Miller for 7 mil.. Much rather draft a RB and use that money on defense. Glad that it seems like the FO is being frugal, wouldn't be ecstatic with getting Powell on a cheap contract.

7 mil is quite high, I agree. But for a 24 year old RB that fits our scheme well along with being a solid pass catcher, I wouldn't be completely against it.

 

[TheCount]

List of QB's selected 2nd-5th from 2000-2012: (not including Mariota/Bortles because jury is still out)
Robert Griffin III - 2nd
Mark Sanchez - 5th
Matt Ryan - 3rd
Vince Young - 3rd
Philip Rivers - 4th
Joey Harrington - 3rd

Love Rivers, Matt Ryan is alright.. but I'm not impressed in your odds of finding a stud in the top 5 outside of the #1 pick.

Current franchise QBs in the NFL:

Cam Newton: 1st pick
Andrew Luck: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick
Carson Palmer: 1st pick
Peyton Manning: 1st pick

Philip Rivers: 4th pick

Ben Roethlisberger: 11th pick

Aaron Rodgers: 24th overall
Drew Brees: 2nd rounder
Russell Wilson: 3rd rounder

Tom Brady: 6th rounder
Tony Romo: undrafted

I think it is ill advised to say drafting a QB at 4 is better value than drafting another player that you believe in. Not saying Elliot should be the pick, it should be whoever the Best Player Available is based on our scouts or a trade down. Whether this is a QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB, that is OK. We should not pick a QB just because we are #4 and we will not have a better opportunity to select a QB in the future. We need to pick the guy that our scouts believe will become an All-Pro in this league.

No one is saying pick a QB just because we're drafting 4th overall. It's a more complex argument than that, and no scout is going to advocate drafting a QB at 4 unless they actually evaluate that player as being worth the selection.