Lamar Miller latest update; Going to sign with Texans

jterrell

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I guess they were just talking to Philly for recommendations on the best place to buy Cheese steaks.
For all you know they made a real play for Demarco but the eagles management didn't want him being trade back to a divisional rival.

I guess you should tell the national media and Millers agent that we are locked in to DMC as the starter...you said it so it must be true.
At least Zeke or any RB in the draft wont have to get excited over the idea of coming here either since you closed that book also.
I'm sure when we were interviewing Elliott at the combine we were really just asking him his thoughts on the Ohio democratic primary coming up.

You don't know who the starter will be any more than we do....Love it or cry it out but it is what it is.

I know Demarco Murray isn't here and DMC is... same as last year.

You don't even know "they" spoke. You have rumors and zero detail of anything but wishful thinking.

Murray is going to Tennessee.
Feel free to join him.
 

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I guess they were just talking to Philly for recommendations on the best place to buy Cheese steaks.
For all you know they made a real play for Demarco but the eagles management didn't want him being trade back to a divisional rival.

I guess you should tell the national media and Millers agent that we are locked in to DMC as the starter...you said it so it must be true.
At least Zeke or any RB in the draft wont have to get excited over the idea of coming here either since you closed that book also.
I'm sure when we were interviewing Elliott at the combine we were really just asking him his thoughts on the Ohio democratic primary coming up.

You don't know who the starter will be any more than we do....Love it or cry it out but it is what it is.

I'd really like a philly cheese-stake right about now. You taking orders?
 

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Oh hold on.....we can't forget about his "assist"....no wait...even with his assist he can barely hit 2 tackles per game....thank god we added those.
Dude...no matter how many times you say he is worth the $8 million it doesn't make it true. Touching the other teams ball carrier 2 times per game isn't worth $8 million dollars.
I didn't say Lamar Miller was going to get $8 million per year....What I have said is when someone says not to pay a RB even 6 million per year and instead invest this money into another DT this just is not a smart thing to do. We have already spent good money on an underperforming DT...The complimentary DT can be a veteran who is on the cheap over asking a RB who your team leans heavily on to be the guy who is brought in because he is cheap.

You said invisible, if you're going to throw stats out, do it properly. Again, judging DTs by tackles is reaching to find criticism. But hopefully we can both laugh together about that, but I'm guessing you'll still struggle to understand. So, moving on?

I didn't say Lamar Miller was going to get $8 million per year....What I have said is when someone says not to pay a RB even 6 million per year and instead invest this money into another DT this just is not a smart thing to do.

Investing in the trenches isn't a smart thing to do? My goodness, did you see how we struggled with pressures from out D-Line outside of Crawford and Lawrence later on in the year? We need investment in the defensive line. We got production from our RB last year, and while I am no fan of McFadden, we still got good yardage from that scrub. We don't NEED to go big on an RB. We need to get better depth at DT and find another DT to go alongside Crawford, if that's giving out $6 million a year contract, I'm fine with that.
 

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McFadden will lose his job at some point to that 4th rounder if that 4th rounder is a quality player.

I like McFadden. Dallas will replace him though this year and make him the backup.

You can get stud RB's anywhere in the draft so we could find his replacement anywhere from FA to undrafted FA.

I actually think this scenario would of happened last draft if Gregory hadn't dropped in the draft.
 

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I know Demarco Murray isn't here and DMC is... same as last year.

You don't even know "they" spoke. You have rumors and zero detail of anything but wishful thinking.

Murray is going to Tennessee.
Feel free to join him.

And you don't know that they didn't.
Sounds like I have the same thing that you have....yet yours is somehow a fact....I see.
 

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You said invisible, if you're going to throw stats out, do it properly. Again, judging DTs by tackles is reaching to find criticism. But hopefully we can both laugh together about that, but I'm guessing you'll still struggle to understand. So, moving on?



Investing in the trenches isn't a smart thing to do? My goodness, did you see how we struggled with pressures from out D-Line outside of Crawford and Lawrence later on in the year? We need investment in the defensive line. We got production from our RB last year, and while I am no fan of McFadden, we still got good yardage from that scrub. We don't NEED to go big on an RB. We need to get better depth at DT and find another DT to go alongside Crawford, if that's giving out $6 million a year contract, I'm fine with that.

Crawford had 5 out of 16 games he started where he is "Invisible" on the stat sheet. Not a single tackle. Dude couldn't even jump onto someone else's tackle...
I'm glad that's good enough for you. What do you wish to judge DT's on? They are actually supposed to be tackling people correct?

We don't need to go big on a RB....$6 million per year isn't going big on a position as critical to our offenses success or failure as RB is. We just paid McClain $5 million per year and he is hurt or disappears half the season each year....

The point is that the money we would pay to a starting runningback who is game changing is not such a bad value. We have a different definition of going big.
 

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Miller would feast in this dink and dunk scheme...looks like a souped up version of Dunbar.

Would much rather have double E or Henry though.
 

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Crawford had 5 out of 16 games he started where he is "Invisible" on the stat sheet. Not a single tackle. Dude couldn't even jump onto someone else's tackle...
I'm glad that's good enough for you. What do you wish to judge DT's on? They are actually supposed to be tackling people correct?

We don't need to go big on a RB....$6 million per year isn't going big on a position as critical to our offenses success or failure as RB is. We just paid McClain $5 million per year and he is hurt or disappears half the season each year....

The point is that the money we would pay to a starting runningback who is game changing is not such a bad value. We have a different definition of going big.

WRONG, he had 4 games where he didn't show up on the stat sheet. Want to analyze those games with me? Let's do that, okay?

2 of those games, he was injured and surrounded by scrubs. The Philly and Miami games? Yes, Miller had 7 rushes Ajayi had 4 rushes, while Tannehill only dropped back 24 times. We dominated the clock on offense. In the Philly game, Sproles and Murray combined for 16 carries, Bradford threw nearly 40 times in that game. So where was his tackles going to come from? Tackling the WRs?

This is the issue with raw statistics, and it's certainly why you shouldn't be judging players, especially DTs, on tackles alone. So your counter argument could be, he didn't get any sacks. No, he didn't, but again he's not a top-tier DT and he's not getting paid like one. He's getting paid like a good DT, and his numbers in 2015 suggest that.

$6 million per year isn't going big on a position as critical to our offenses success or failure as RB is.

In terms of RB? Yes, yes it is.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/running-back/

Again, compare. We can all have our opinions on Lamar Miller here, I like him. But production wise? He's had one 1,000 yard season. So, let's break down players who have had more 1,000 yard seasons or the same as Miller.

Adrian Peterson and Lesean McCoy are getting the obvious big contracts, guess what McCoys big contract is worth? $40 million, guess what he's averaging a year? $8 million. Demarco Murray is averaging $6 million a year, and we wouldn't give him that kind of contract after proving himself in our system. Jamaal Charles is averaging around $9 million. The other big name RBs are on rookie contracts, but we all know Bell will most likely get a $9-12 contract somewhere. So, we move to second tier RBs

CJ is getting 4 a year, Ingram 4 a year, Frank Gore, 4 a year, Darren Sproles 3 a year. Since Miller has most likely turned down Dolphins initial offer, I'm just going to guess he's wanting top tier money when his production is that of a second tier RB, and they average less than 6 a year.

So, I'm not sure in what world $6 million would be a smart contract UNLESS it comes from hope that Miller lives up to expectations. But I would never fault an owner thinking that's too much of a risk.
 

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This would be a great signing. The Cowboys need to get this done.

Young, capable, and a good fit here. And it saves a draft pick.
 

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Oh come on, yes there is. There's plenty of people arguing about position rather than the prospects available.

I disagree. People saying that legitimately like the QB's. They aren't saying pass on this other player I like way more for an inferior player.
 

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I actually think this scenario would of happened last draft if Gregory hadn't dropped in the draft.

Just looked up the draft picks from last year and my bet it was for Abdullah out of Nebraska, or David Johnson who went a couple before we picked Chaz Green.
 

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I disagree. People saying that legitimately like the QB's. They aren't saying pass on this other player I like way more for an inferior player.

Exactly. What has Goff done to suddenly make him look questionable? The guy was the top-rated prospect last year and his record-breaking season in 2015 only solidified that position. It's Aaron Rodgers all over again and anyone who passes on him will live to regret it. Especially a team that can't find a quarterback to save their lives!
 

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And you don't know that they didn't.
Sounds like I have the same thing that you have....yet yours is somehow a fact....I see.

Tenneseee "traded" a swap of 4th round picks for Murray.
A SWAP OF FOURTH ROUND PICKS.

They literally took on a cheaper Murray for about 15 draft spots.

That is the mega-deal Dallas couldn't crack for the coveted back.

good game, good effort.
 
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