Lamar Miller unlikely to re-sign with Miami

[Risen Star]

I am not super familiar with Miller. Are there any particular reasons why you don't like him?

It's not that I think he sucks, I just don't think he's all that good to be signing him to a veteran contract extension. He was a solid back in Miami and that's it. If he was in the draft, sure. But as a veteran FA who will probably command a decent salary as he plays to 30? I just wouldn't do it.

 

[gimmesix]

I do think they were planning to add a back in the draft last year, it just didn't work out. They literally invited every possible prospect to the complex, that shows you the interest was there.

I hope the team knows that McFadden may be a fine back for us but he can't be relied on as the only back with starter potential on our roster.

I don't think Jerry said they wouldn't add one. He only said it is not necessary for them to come out of the draft with one. If they had traded up in the first round to take Gurley, then we could point to that and say you can't believe what Jerry says. He has proven time and time again, though, that he is willing to offer up his true position ... mostly when it doesn't involve specifics.

 

[Rockport]

Don't need him at the price he'll get.

 

[robjay04]

Oh! and our coaches are so smart, hey? I doubt we could take any player and turn them into a stud.

Darren McFadden. Looking at the way Demarco Murray looks without this team, maybe you can say the same about him.

The coaches won't make him a stud, the OL will though.

 

[LittleD]

Darren McFadden. Looking at the way Demarco Murray looks without this team, maybe you can say the same about him.

The coaches won't make him a stud, the OL will though.

We've got 9 draft picks to find a RB. If they can't find one then they all should be fired.
No sense paying big bucks to a reject from another team, especially the fins.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's not that I think he sucks, I just don't think he's all that good to be signing him to a veteran contract extension. He was a solid back in Miami and that's it. If he was in the draft, sure. But as a veteran FA who will probably command a decent salary as he plays to 30? I just wouldn't do it.

Fair enough.

 

[John813]

I wouldn't go that far, the hesitation to use Miller stretched to the previous coaching staff as well.

Maybe both coaches are dumb or maybe Miller doesn't grasp everything he needs to know to be a feature back in this league. The team has been trying to replace him for awhile (remember, they signed Knowshon Moreno to take his job after his huge year in Denver). Regardless, the fact that the Dolphins refused to feed him the ball will work against him in free agency.

Philbin was a terrible HC, fwiw. He was a coach that tried and failed to implement any strategy he wanted to run. It's debatable if Ireland wasn't on the same page as Philbin, when it came to player acquistion, but their o-line rebuild rivaled the Cowboys lines of Petitti, Tucker, Proctor and so on.

interim coach Dan Campbell said Tuesday that running back Lamar Miller only had one carry in the fourth quarter of Monday’s 31-24 loss to the New York Giants because of an ankle injury.

That contradicts Miller, who said after the game his right ankle was fine.

“This is the first that I’ve heard of, that he was OK to go in the second (half),” Campbell said. “If that’s what he told you guys…I knew that he wasn’t in there for a spell because I saw him limp off the field.

“So at that point I was just trying to manage the game.”

I remember towards the end of the season this scenario would happen. Miller does well in the first half, gets to ride the bench in the 2nd half, and the coach and player have different stories about why he wasn't on the field.
I'm trying to find more links, that I recall reading, that stated that Campbell never asked if Miller was too banged up to go back out, and just assumed he couldn't play.
Miller that night versus the Giants was killing them.

Miller has made some impressive strides since his rookie year. He has improved his pass catching abilities and his running between the tackles. Before he was only effective when he was in open space, but he has gotten stronger and is no longer an one trick pony imo. Before this year, I didn't think he was worthy of being a top 16 #1 back, but he definitely stepped up his game.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yep! we already have our lead dog back according to the Dallas Braintrust (Jerry). Any "old" back can run for miles behind this
"all world" offensive line. No need to go big and spend big for any RB's in Dallas.

I mean... They were right last year... As were a number of posters here who understand what makes a running game tick.

As to LM.... We'd be foolish not to kick the tires. Rbs historically slow at 27. A contract for him would take him to that cliff.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

It's not that I think he sucks, I just don't think he's all that good to be signing him to a veteran contract extension. He was a solid back in Miami and that's it. If he was in the draft, sure. But as a veteran FA who will probably command a decent salary as he plays to 30? I just wouldn't do it.

We wouldn't sign him to a 5 or 6 year contract. Don't be obtuse.

NFL contracts are 3 year affairs in reality regardless of actual length on signing day. Because after 3 years you generally gain against the cap in a cut scenario.

You either know this and are being willfully ignorant... Or you actually didn't know this which is even more embarrassing.

 

[robjay04]

We've got 9 draft picks to find a RB. If they can't find one then they all should be fired.
No sense paying big bucks to a reject from another team, especially the fins.

Philbin was a terrible HC, fwiw. He was a coach that tried and failed to implement any strategy he wanted to run. It's debatable if Ireland wasn't on the same page as Philbin, when it came to player acquistion, but their o-line rebuild rivaled the Cowboys lines of Petitti, Tucker, Proctor and so on.



I remember towards the end of the season this scenario would happen. Miller does well in the first half, gets to ride the bench in the 2nd half, and the coach and player have different stories about why he wasn't on the field.
I'm trying to find more links, that I recall reading, that stated that Campbell never asked if Miller was too banged up to go back out, and just assumed he couldn't play.
Miller that night versus the Giants was killing them.

Miller has made some impressive strides since his rookie year. He has improved his pass catching abilities and his running between the tackles. Before he was only effective when he was in open space, but he has gotten stronger and is no longer an one trick pony imo. Before this year, I didn't think he was worthy of being a top 16 #1 back, but he definitely stepped up his game.

I am all for signing the guy and I think the coaching staff is silly for not giving him more carries. I am simply stating the reasons why he won't be as expensive as some feel he is. I have heard people talk about him being paid as much as Lynch or Murray. That is not happening based on his last 4 years, not even close to it.

 

[LittleD]

I am all for signing the guy and I think the coaching staff is silly for not giving him more carries. I am simply stating the reasons why he won't be as expensive as some feel he is. I have heard people talk about him being paid as much as Lynch or Murray. That is not happening based on his last 4 years, not even close to it.

Some teams have lots of cap room...much more than the Cowboys.
Some team will covet him just like Philthy did for Murray last year and overpay.
That's the nature of free agency.
Jerry will probably not overpay for a RB.

 

[robjay04]

Some teams have lots of cap room...much more than the Cowboys.
Some team will covet him just like Philthy did for Murray last year and overpay.
That's the nature of free agency.
Jerry will probably not overpay for a RB.

We can agree to disagree. I think a lot of teams in the NFL are committed to not overpaying for a running back. Last year, the Jaguars had to purge cap space but they got out of the Murray running because the cost was too high. Only the Eagles and Raiders were willing to pay him and he was a bust.

Look around the NFL though, only a few teams have a true need in a running back.

 

[LittleD]

We can agree to disagree. I think a lot of teams in the NFL are committed to not overpaying for a running back. Last year, the Jaguars had to purge cap space but they got out of the Murray running because the cost was too high. Only the Eagles and Raiders were willing to pay him and he was a bust.

Look around the NFL though, only a few teams have a true need in a running back.

That's fine. I think a team like Arizona who will move on from CJ will look for a solid runner and
they are close to getting to the dance and may go all in on a RB for next year.

 

[John813]

I am all for signing the guy and I think the coaching staff is silly for not giving him more carries. I am simply stating the reasons why he won't be as expensive as some feel he is. I have heard people talk about him being paid as much as Lynch or Murray. That is not happening based on his last 4 years, not even close to it.

I agree with you there 100%. Sorry for any miscommunication. Anyone signing him to a deal close to those ones is rolling the dice, big time.

 

[robjay04]

That's fine. I think a team like Arizona who will move on from CJ will look for a solid runner and
they are close to getting to the dance and may go all in on a RB for next year.

They have a better running back that is younger than Lamar Miller

 

[The Natural]

Give me Janoris Jenkins, Danny trevathan and Malik Jackson

I'll take Lamar.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Alfred Morris will be a Cowboy

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Alfred Morris will be a Cowboy

He could very well. He's is or is going to be 28... he's on the downside of his career as a back. He's more of a "pounder" that would probably mesh well with McFadden. I don't see him getting the money that say Ingram received last offseason, $16 mil/4 years.

 

[Floatyworm]

Yeah, him and his 49 carries. Watch out!

That's all it took to know they stole their future #1 RB.......

 

[VirusX]

Unfortunately, we're unlikely to sign him, too. Dallas appears to be in no hurry to add a legitimate back after what McFadden did last year.

And that in a nutshell is our problem. We get content with what we have and hope for the best... We should be two or three deep at all positions at all times. Nearly impossible to do but that should be our goal. If you dont feel like your #2 could start on 31 other teams. He doesn't need to be on your squad.