Lance Zierlein: Cowboys not in love with Bosa

[gimmesix]

He didnt come right out and say but he gave a very strong indication that they would look in the direction. Couple that with Jerry's comments about not taking one at 4 and we now have absolutely no idea who to believe and no idea what they plan on doing

All I'm saying is listening to Jerry over all these years has given an indication of when he's telling the truth and when he is not. When he makes an outright statement like we're not going to take a QB or RB at No. 4, he has generally meant it.

I don't have the same read on Stephen, and maybe his greater involvement can override Jerry's stance.

 

[darthseinfeld]

All I'm saying is listening to Jerry over all these years has given an indication of when he's telling the truth and when he is not. When he makes an outright statement like we're not going to take a QB or RB at No. 4, he has generally meant it.

I don't have the same read on Stephen, and maybe his greater involvement can override Jerry's stance.

I see what your saying, but at the same time Jerry hasnt had this capitol in a long time. May change things. The organization is floating alot of contradictory info out there, QB's, Bosa, more so then in recent years. I know Jerry is usually true to his word as far the draft, but I think they are taking a different approach, maybe using disinformation as a way to keep their cards close to the chest

 

[gimmesix]

He didnt come right out and say but he gave a very strong indication that they would look in the direction. Couple that with Jerry's comments about not taking one at 4 and we now have absolutely no idea who to believe and no idea what they plan on doing

Jerry has since said this about preferring some positions with that first-round pick, so maybe his position has been altered some:

“Those position preferences are probably areas of quarterback, pressure player and corner,” Jones said. “You might go a position preference over one that's higher on the board.

“I don’t think we have to draft a cornerback. I don't think we have to draft a pressure player. The reason you don't have to draft a pressure player early is because of depth. There is depth in the defensive line. Now the question is whether there is anybody there that is the pressure player without issues.”

 

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm betting they rank them
Wentz
Bosa
Ramsey

they just better get one of them....Please!!!

 

[DFWJC]

Best news I've heard in a while! So, I wonder why they sent all those coaches to the OSU Pro Day? Hmmm....

a ton of good prospects there

 

[gimmesix]

I see what your saying, but at the same time Jerry hasnt had this capitol in a long time. May change things. The organization is floating alot of contradictory info out there, QB's, Bosa, more so then in recent years. I know Jerry is usually true to his word as far the draft, but I think they are taking a different approach, maybe using disinformation as a way to keep their cards close to the chest

All I think we can narrow it down to based on his latest quote is Dallas will consider a quarterback, a defensive linemen who can pressure the QB and a defensive back. I think we had all already narrowed it down to that.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Jerry has since said this about preferring some positions with that first-round pick, so maybe his position has been altered some:

“Those position preferences are probably areas of quarterback, pressure player and corner,” Jones said. “You might go a position preference over one that's higher on the board.

“I don’t think we have to draft a cornerback. I don't think we have to draft a pressure player. The reason you don't have to draft a pressure player early is because of depth. There is depth in the defensive line. Now the question is whether there is anybody there that is the pressure player without issues.”

No watch Stephan come out next week and say were arent drafting a QB

 

[darthseinfeld]

All I think we can narrow it down to based on his latest quote is Dallas will consider a quarterback, a defensive linemen who can pressure the QB and a defensive back. I think we had all already narrowed it down to that.

My fear is they pick at 4 and come screaming up the board into the top 15 for Lynch. They're are quality defensive players to be had at 4, but just not the " my presence will make others better" type talent outside of Ramsey. But Ramsey with a weak rush isnt nearly as effective

 

[Rogerthat12]

All I think we can narrow it down to based on his latest quote is Dallas will consider a quarterback, a defensive linemen who can pressure the QB and a defensive back. I think we had all already narrowed it down to that.

Honestly, I do not think any of them know what they are going to do yet!

 

[Kolemmitt]

Honestly, I do not think any of them know what they are going to do yet!

Exactly right. I think this is just some local reporter that wanted to get his name out there so he mentions he has "info" that the Cowboys don't like the guy that most people are currently mocking to the Cowboys.

 

[Sydla]

While I don't have an issue with them not liking Bosa, it makes their FA period bizarre. I could have bought the idea that they didn't make efforts on Williams and Ayers and some others because they knew all along they were thinking Bosa and how he could be the answer for the pass rush.

But if they don't like Bosa, then what were they thinking?

Oh wait, Jerry said they have "depth" at DE. LOL.

 

[dstew60105]

Buckner is in play IMO and dont sleep on Lynch at at 4

Lynch at 4? LOL, what are you smoking?

 

[jnday]

That's not really what Stephen Jones said. He said if you have a chance to take a potential franchise QB when you're drafting that high, you have to "make the investment."

He did not say that Dallas believes there's a potential franchise QB to take at No. 4. If you couple that with what Jerry Jones has since said, then it would appear the team does not feel there is one worth the fourth pick. Maybe they feel that there is not much "potential" difference between several QBs in this draft.

Some experts believe these QBs are going to be overdrafted, while others believe at least one of them belongs among the top picks in the draft. It really depends on what Dallas believes, and if Jerry is being accurate with his stance, it's that no QB or RB is worth the fourth pick.

Dallas has a history of undervaluing QBs in the draft. From the leaked boards that I have seen, Dallas is usually a round lower on rating them than where they are drafted. They probably have Wentz and Goff as solid second round picks.

 

[CowboyJ70]

While I don't have an issue with them not liking Bosa, it makes their FA period bizarre. I could have bought the idea that they didn't make efforts on Williams and Ayers and some others because they knew all along they were thinking Bosa and how he could be the answer for the pass rush.

But if they don't like Bosa, then what were they thinking?

Oh wait, Jerry said they have "depth" at DE. LOL.

This scares me. I am not crazy about drafting Bosa at 4. But would understand it if they did. But if they didn't take a DE in either of the first 2 rds. I would really not understand their FA plan at all.

 

[StarBoyz83]

So they're not takin a qb or bosa. So who then if ramsey isn't there?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas has a history of undervaluing QBs in the draft. From the leaked boards that I have seen, Dallas is usually a round lower on rating them than where they are drafted. They probably have Wentz and Goff as solid second round picks.

They would be damn sollid picks in the 2nd round.

 

[JBS]

So they're not takin a qb or bosa. So who then if ramsey isn't there?

Probably just pass on the pick

Just like the vikes did some years back

 

[Kolemmitt]

While I don't have an issue with them not liking Bosa, it makes their FA period bizarre. I could have bought the idea that they didn't make efforts on Williams and Ayers and some others because they knew all along they were thinking Bosa and how he could be the answer for the pass rush.

But if they don't like Bosa, then what were they thinking?

Oh wait, Jerry said they have "depth" at DE. LOL.

I am wondering that myself. I really thought DE was the spot at which they would open up the pocket book. I would have done the deal that Williams got. Can you imagine - Williams-Thornton-Crawford -DLaw?

I have a feeling they were really sure Clayborn would sign here and then they could draft someone in the first three rounds to learn behind him.

 

[gimmesix]

While I don't have an issue with them not liking Bosa, it makes their FA period bizarre. I could have bought the idea that they didn't make efforts on Williams and Ayers and some others because they knew all along they were thinking Bosa and how he could be the answer for the pass rush.

But if they don't like Bosa, then what were they thinking?

Oh wait, Jerry said they have "depth" at DE. LOL.

This is my main reason to believe that Bosa is the pick if he's there.

Dallas really didn't have to do anything at corner after re-signing Claiborne. They don't really have to do anything at QB because they've at least got their starter. But getting someone who could start at end is a must, especially with Gregory out the first few weeks. Now, maybe they are sold on Mayowa being able to hold down the fort at RDE until Gregory, who hasn't proven anything either, returns, but if that's the case, it's a really risky plan.

 

[gimmesix]

Dallas has a history of undervaluing QBs in the draft. From the leaked boards that I have seen, Dallas is usually a round lower on rating them than where they are drafted. They probably have Wentz and Goff as solid second round picks.

That's possible. I wondered from Jerry's first comments if the Cowboys didn't believe they could possibly get Lynch or Cook and the second round and either could be just as good as Wentz or Goff (and I still think they are leaning that way). However, this latest comment would seem to indicate that they at least might be willing to draft one of the top QBs (which I assume are Wentz and Goff) "early" based on potential.

That might be the fallback plan if Bosa and Ramsey are both not there, or that might be the debate that will have to be won on draft day if the QBs and either Bosa or Ramsey are there. Frankly, if both QBs are there, I would expect both Bosa and Ramsey to be gone.