Latest Charles Harris Video

[CalPolyTechnique]

no so who you got at 28 ? whos your no one guy ?

name me a guy who gets there a 100 percent of the time ?

lets see Reggie White - Von Miller ?

So you're going to go straight to ridiculous?

Nobody gets to the QB 100% of the time. That said, Harris didn't put any pressure on the QB that game.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

One thing to remember about Harris... early in the season, Mizzou changed their defense to a read-and-react (a poster from Missouri said it was because a disgruntled former assistant coach gave out the playbook when he was fired). Later in the year, they switched back to an attacking style, more suited to Harris' strengths. In this video, you can see that Harris is lined up almost head up on OT and reading before reacting.

That's a plausible explanation until you watch the film. There are plenty of snaps in that game in which he's standing up clearly to rush on the LT's outside shoulder and goes no where.

 

[Leadbelly]

Aaaaand still waiting to see the dynamic talent some folks are salivating about.

I see him as a one-dimensional pass rush/role player. The thing is he's not even great at the one dimension to his game. IMO we have that guy in Mayowa.

What role does he play in this defense? He gets absolutely manhandled by the LT in this game (and TE on one goal line play) and he's only going to face better quality players in the NFL.

I agree. It's not limited to this game. Folks see highlights and he's a star. Watch game cut ups and he doesn't really show up much.

I'm expecting the combine to reveal he's a pretty mediocre athlete with weak change of direction numbers. He doesn't fit the SPARQ profile Garrett/McClay seek. I don't see NFL edge speed or lateral agility. No length to keep OL out of his chest. He could be good in a Wade Phillips-style 3-4 where there are limited coverage responsibilities and he's playing off the line. He's a nickel rusher here. I don't spend RD1 picks on sub-package players.

On the plus side, I do think he has great balance, a good base and is comfortable playing a physical game. Though I consider 6-3 too short for DE, he's well put together. He looks like he might have the body frame to support a little more, get up to 275-280 and maybe develop a different kind of game. But that's a project, not a first rounder.

In his defense, that OT -- KJ Malone -- should be a pretty good Guard prospect next year. He is the son of former Utah Jazz great Karl Malone.

 

[bodi]

So you're going to go straight to ridiculous?

Nobody gets to the QB 100% of the time. That said, Harris didn't put any pressure on the QB that game.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-missouris-charles-harris-poised-for-a-huge-year/

As good as these past prospects were in college however, don’t be surprised if by the end of the 2016 season we’re calling Charles Harris the best defensive end to come out of Missouri in recent years. Let’s break down why:

Over that eight-game stretch that began in the second game of the year, only Ohio State’s Joey Bosa and Oklahoma State’s Emmanuel Ogbah graded higher among 4-3 defensive ends. While he couldn’t match Ray and Golden when he was backing up Ray, as a full time starter his pass rushing productivity jumped to 12.6 — better than either of them could manage in their final seasons at Missouri.

What impresses the most about Harris is that for a player who has been a starter for just one year, he beats blockers in a variety of ways. Of the 37 sacks, hits and hurries he registered by beating a tight end, offensive tackle or guard last year, 19 were won outside, 14 inside, and four via a bull rush. On top of that, there were nine times where he used a spin move out of either an initial inside or outside move to beat his man, like he did in the play below against South Carolina left tackle Brandon Shell.

 

[bodi]

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[bodi]

DeMarcus Ware

Demarcus is an excellent edge rusher with outstanding speed and change of direction agility. He lacks the ideal frame you look for in an every-down end and could be limited to situational duties in the NFL because of his lack of bulk. However, if one should watch his battles against 344-pound tackle Nate Griffin (Marshall) and 330-pounder Andrew Whitworth (LSU) in 2004, you will see a player that compensates for a lack of size with a relentless motor and excellent lateral agility.

He is a fluid and flexible runner who plays at a low pad level and has proven to be very successful playing off the edge. Even with his long arms, when he works in-line, he struggles to disengage when the larger blockers lock on to him. However, he shows excellent snap anticipation ability and easily eludes blockers with his initial burst into the backfield. When he gets an edge on an offensive lineman's shoulder, he is quick to turn the corner and shows urgency closing on the passer.

Ware can make opposite field plays due to his acceleration and has exceptional ability to come off the edge to collapse the pocket and reach the quarterback. He is a superb chase guy who moves easily coming from the backside. Despite giving up considerable bulk to offensive linemen, he has the strength to get a good push off blocks, redirect and string plays out. He is relentless in pursuit and does a nice job of staying low in his pads to deliver crunching tackles on the move.

Demarcus is instinctive and plays with good field vision. Ware shows nice flexibility to leverage at the point of attack and has the lateral slide to avoid blocks on the move. He is a solid wrap-up tackler who can punish runners with his hitting ability. He shows good hand usage and extension to stave off the blockers trying to get into his chest, but if they lock on, he can be neutralized. He will then try to overcompensate, taking wrong angles to the ball or fail to control his momentum by getting too far upfield to make the play.

Ware has a very strong hand punch and good arm extension. He is strong at the point and knows how to squeeze and leverage blockers. He has raw pass rush technique and needs to develop better counter moves, as he relies mostly on his sudden burst to make plays in the backfield. He lacks polish in his backpedal and is not experienced in dropping back while in man coverage.

Demarcus knows how to use his hands to reroute tight ends and backs in the short area, but will bite on play action and eyes the quarterback too long when having to play in zone coverage. He is better suited playing in space and on the move. He will make a lot of his plays coming from the backside, but when he gets too high in his stance, he will struggle to disengage trying to shoot the inside gaps.

He looks more like a Jason Taylor clone, as he is best working off the edge. Some liken him to Baltimore's Terrell Suggs, but from film review, I do not think that he has the pass coverage ability to drop back and handle zone assignments (best when making tackles in front of him). Still, his explosion and desire to make the play will make this guy one that will have to be accounted for on the field.

He will need to add bulk in order to remain a down lineman, but his frame may be at maximum growth potential. If he moves to linebacker, he is better suited to operate as a weak-side rush linebacker in a 3-4 alignment in order to get value from him immediately.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-missouris-charles-harris-poised-for-a-huge-year/

As good as these past prospects were in college however, don’t be surprised if by the end of the 2016 season we’re calling Charles Harris the best defensive end to come out of Missouri in recent years. Let’s break down why:

Over that eight-game stretch that began in the second game of the year, only Ohio State’s Joey Bosa and Oklahoma State’s Emmanuel Ogbah graded higher among 4-3 defensive ends. While he couldn’t match Ray and Golden when he was backing up Ray, as a full time starter his pass rushing productivity jumped to 12.6 — better than either of them could manage in their final seasons at Missouri.

What impresses the most about Harris is that for a player who has been a starter for just one year, he beats blockers in a variety of ways. Of the 37 sacks, hits and hurries he registered by beating a tight end, offensive tackle or guard last year, 19 were won outside, 14 inside, and four via a bull rush. On top of that, there were nine times where he used a spin move out of either an initial inside or outside move to beat his man, like he did in the play below against South Carolina left tackle Brandon Shell.

This article was from before the 2016 season and was projecting the player he might become. I doubt he fulfilled their expectations.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

DeMarcus Ware

Demarcus is an excellent edge rusher with outstanding speed and change of direction agility. He lacks the ideal frame you look for in an every-down end and could be limited to situational duties in the NFL because of his lack of bulk. However, if one should watch his battles against 344-pound tackle Nate Griffin (Marshall) and 330-pounder Andrew Whitworth (LSU) in 2004, you will see a player that compensates for a lack of size with a relentless motor and excellent lateral agility.

He is a fluid and flexible runner who plays at a low pad level and has proven to be very successful playing off the edge. Even with his long arms, when he works in-line, he struggles to disengage when the larger blockers lock on to him. However, he shows excellent snap anticipation ability and easily eludes blockers with his initial burst into the backfield. When he gets an edge on an offensive lineman's shoulder, he is quick to turn the corner and shows urgency closing on the passer.

Ware can make opposite field plays due to his acceleration and has exceptional ability to come off the edge to collapse the pocket and reach the quarterback. He is a superb chase guy who moves easily coming from the backside. Despite giving up considerable bulk to offensive linemen, he has the strength to get a good push off blocks, redirect and string plays out. He is relentless in pursuit and does a nice job of staying low in his pads to deliver crunching tackles on the move.

Demarcus is instinctive and plays with good field vision. Ware shows nice flexibility to leverage at the point of attack and has the lateral slide to avoid blocks on the move. He is a solid wrap-up tackler who can punish runners with his hitting ability. He shows good hand usage and extension to stave off the blockers trying to get into his chest, but if they lock on, he can be neutralized. He will then try to overcompensate, taking wrong angles to the ball or fail to control his momentum by getting too far upfield to make the play.

Ware has a very strong hand punch and good arm extension. He is strong at the point and knows how to squeeze and leverage blockers. He has raw pass rush technique and needs to develop better counter moves, as he relies mostly on his sudden burst to make plays in the backfield. He lacks polish in his backpedal and is not experienced in dropping back while in man coverage.

Demarcus knows how to use his hands to reroute tight ends and backs in the short area, but will bite on play action and eyes the quarterback too long when having to play in zone coverage. He is better suited playing in space and on the move. He will make a lot of his plays coming from the backside, but when he gets too high in his stance, he will struggle to disengage trying to shoot the inside gaps.

He looks more like a Jason Taylor clone, as he is best working off the edge. Some liken him to Baltimore's Terrell Suggs, but from film review, I do not think that he has the pass coverage ability to drop back and handle zone assignments (best when making tackles in front of him). Still, his explosion and desire to make the play will make this guy one that will have to be accounted for on the field.

He will need to add bulk in order to remain a down lineman, but his frame may be at maximum growth potential. If he moves to linebacker, he is better suited to operate as a weak-side rush linebacker in a 3-4 alignment in order to get value from him immediately.

Is DeMarcus Ware re-entering the draft or something?

 

[bodi]

Is DeMarcus Ware re-entering the draft or something?

just comparing the two\

“DeMarcus … he was about 6-4, 196 when he got here,” Troy coach Larry Blakeney said. “When he left my office to go to Dallas he was 6-5, 255. And he could really run. I don’t think he ever lost a challenge race here. All those corners and wide receivers who thought they were fast, he normally dusted them.”

 

[stilltheguru88]

So one sub-par game and he's comparable to Mayowa

I didn't think it was subpar. I'd like to know what plays people thought were so weak

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I didn't think it was subpar. I'd like to know what plays people thought were so weak

So, you didn't see snap after snap of him getting stoned by the LT getting no pressure on the QB, completely wrecked in the run game and manhandled by the TE near the goal line?

The better question is what plays did you feel he was fantastic in?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

So one sub-par game and he's comparable to Mayowa

I'm not a fan of Harris; I've been on record in other threads about that.

The title reads "latest game..." so it's examining the latest game clip of him on draftbreakdown.

 

[stilltheguru88]

So, you didn't see snap after snap of him getting stoned by the LT getting no pressure on the QB, completely wrecked in the run game and manhandled by the TE near the goal line?

The better question is what plays did you feel he was fantastic in?

I didn't see a tight end manhandle him. Maybe I missed it. With speed rushers I look at their performance on 3rd and longs and LSU didn't have many of those because they ran at will. It wasn't a good or bad game for Harris imo

 

[bodi]

 

[bodi]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...irst-look-scouting-missouri-de-charles-harris

Charles Harris, redshirt junior DE, Missouri


Height, weight: 6-foot-3, 255 pounds (school measurements)

2015 statistics: 56 tackles (32 solo), 18.5 for loss (7.0 sacks), 2 forced fumbles

Game tape watched: Florida (Oct. 10, 2015), Georgia (Oct. 17, 2015), Mississippi State (Nov. 5, 2015)

What I liked: Harris is a gifted pass rusher with outstanding instincts, technique and power. He primarily lines up at right defensive end, but he will occasionally stand up and rush from a two-point stance. He has a variety of pass-rush moves. He can spin both inside and outside. He has a nasty stutter/bull-rush move, and he also possesses a violent slap/rip move. He consistently generated pressure in every game I studied. Opponents adjust their pass protection schemes to focus on him (sliding protection his way, and chipping him with a back or tight end). However, he still manages to be disruptive. He doesn't have an elite first step, but when he gets on the edge of an offensive tackle, he can power through their outside shoulder and flatten toward the quarterback. He is also a solid run defender. He can slash through gaps and make plays behind the line of scrimmage, or stack blocks and hold the point of attack. His effort is excellent and he plays a lot of snaps for the Tigers' defense. His gas tank is never empty

Where he needs to improve: Harris has a tendency to play a little too high and narrow at times. He's able to get away with it at the college level because of his pure strength and athleticism. However, NFL offensive tackles will uproot him and handle him if he doesn't lower his pad level. This is something that can be fixed easily, and I don't envision it being a problem in the long run. The only other area I would like to see improvement is in his flexibility and fluidity. He isn't a bendy, loose athlete, and that shows up when he plays in space. If he's going to be a 3-4 OLB at the next level, that is something he'll need to work on.

Biggest takeaway: Harris has a natural gift to rush the passer. He has a nice blend of physical skills, but I'm even more impressed with the technical aspect of his game. Rushing the passer is almost like pitching. You can't just win with a fastball. Harris has several outstanding pitches (moves) and he keeps hitters (offensive tackles) off-balance. I don't have a perfect comparison for him, but I saw some of the same things from Ryan Kerrigan when he was at Purdue. Both guys play with maximum effort and posses outstanding natural instincts.