Let's Dominate on Defense

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Our offense will be very good when we fix atleast 1 part on that OLine if you ask me. (at least 1)

It's not like our offense didn't put up some numbers and couldn't move the ball. Even when we were beaten, we could at least move the ball down the field, (even with those horrible tackles & center). We would always mess up a drive with penalties and bad field goal kicking.

The only game that I can remember us not being able to move the ball is on Washington in the last game we played them.
Without stats, let's look at this thing with our naked eyes..(these are your playoff teams)

Colts = Dominant offense, pretty good defense
Seahawks = Dominant offense (kinda) good defense
Giants = Really good Defense / (top 5 offense I think's just okay,not dominant)
Washington = Dominant Defense / good offense
Panthers = Dominant Defense (DLine really)/ good offense
Bears = Dominant Defense / sorry offense
Pittsburgh = Dominant defense / okay offense
Cincinatti = Dominant Offense / okay defense
Jacksonville = Really good defense (top 10)/ good offense
Patriots = Dominant offense = really good defense
Bronchos = Dominant offense = good defense

(Those are my opinions with a naked eye on the teams in the playoffs, yours may be different....And if someone wants to add special teams in the mix, that's a good addition to add, and ours is sorry kicking wise. Also, the dominant teams had top 10 stats, and we were not in the top 10 in either, but stats aren't the determining factor..What we see with our naked eyes are)

As you can see, no team really dominates on both sides of the ball, you really can't afford to do that these days so you have to choose which side to dominate on.

My point is, we have an average offense, and a really good defense.
I think that with 4 strong parts on defense, and 2 on offense, and one on special teams, we can have a dominant defense, and a good offense.

Right now, our defense is really good, but not dominate, meaning - we can't shut teams down on a consistant bases.. There were games where we could have had more pressure on the QB and needed help up the middle and off the other edge, but we only have Ware.

Spears and Canty will control the run, so we need a huge strong DT to keep teams from caving our middle in, thus giving them running lanes. We also need a huge/fast/mean ILB next to James who will knife thru the middle and shut runs down behind the line. An ILB who will shed blocks and get to those edges when teams try to run wide.

We need a dominant Ware type OLB on the other side, so that you can get to the QB from both sides of the field, and someone who can control the edges on the other side of the ball.

We need a FS who can hold the fort down deep, which will allow RW to stay fairly close to that line, and/or come up to make plays nearly every play. RW needs to be closer to that line, and with more pressure on the QB, we can stop QB's from finding that other option to throw too. We need linebackers who can cover that back or that TE coming out of the backfield on a regular basis. An ILB who can blow up the screen play.

We need to put Newman back on the edge and not in the slot. We need to keep him on the edge and Glenn needs to stay in the slot position. If we can get crazy pressure on the QB, we can then jam the receivers on the line more and leaving our safeties to roam and confuse QB's with tons of fake blitzes or real blitzes.

Now I see several defensive prospects I would get in the draft. I have not done my homework on the FA, but if someone has, they can put in their input.
I say, Ahmad Brooks ILB in the first round.
2nd round, we pick a RT
3rd round we pick Gabe Watson DT or maybe in the 2nd, and then an OT in the third.
We can acquire a 4th with one of 2 trades (Ellis/Glover)
We can pick up Anthon Smith FS, who is a coverage safety.
We can pick up Arrington or Abraham (I think their's a couple more in FA we could use at OLB, but you all may have more info than I do on those types)..But those 2 come to mind for the other OLB position.

And if we can't get a dominant OLB on the other side, if we get Ahmad Brooks ILB, we can use him as an OLB on certain downs to get after the QB..(he can do it all folks)

We can get an OT in FA, and one in the 2nd or 3rd, and 7th.
We can get a strong Center in FA, and a scrubb speed receiver in FA. Just someone who can be a concern deep. And we add a great kicker, we're in the Superbowl next year, or competing for it.

But when we pull out that dominant defense, we will control games. That allows us to grind out the clock like BP's likes to do. He will not bring in a franchise QB so we can forget that. He's not going to bring in TO, (I don't think) so our WR core will be the same.

With that in mind, and since we know how BP is, we should just finish up on the defensive side of the ball, and create turnovers, and get our good offense and get to the superbowl next year.
 

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Plus, having a dominant defense is just so damn fun.

Giants = Really good Defense / (top 5 offense I think's just okay,not dominant)

BTW, the Giants were ranked #24th in the NFL on defense.
 

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I forgot tampa bay, Dominant defense, okay offense.
 

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I haven't thought about it like this, but you're right. We've all been talking about how bad our offense is, but if you compare us to the defensive teams out there our offense, even with all the old guys is much better.

Give us a shut down defense and we'd be where the Bears are right now, or the Ravens' super bowl team. And I do think we're on the way there. The Bears have had mostly the same personnel on defense for the past 3 years... Urlacher, Brown, etc. But they continued to add parts here and ther while waiting for the young players to get experience and it all came together this year. Most NFL analysts believe that we've got the pieces in place to have this kind of defense in the future. Give us a few years and our D will be dominant. If we have a servicable O then watch out.
 

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Count me on board with the thread's proposed idea.

The NFL is a copy cat league. Teams are copycatting the offenses that are winning. If you build a defense that is dominant they will have a hard time dealing with it.


I want to be ahead of the curve. A dominant defense will be needed to stop Indy from becoming the next team they ask about being a dynasty.

Why not us?
 

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Yeah, I just think that we have way too long to go to build a dominant offense. We would need a franchise QB/LG/C/RT/#1WR/ and a coach that is not conservative. And atleast 4 probowlers on offense.

We are much closer to dominance on defense. Let's finish it!
 

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Your right I don't think Parcells could ever build a dominant offense with what he has managed to trot on the field that last couple of years. This really doesn't make since to me for a coach who rely's on a managble offense to control the game and win the TOP battle.

So it will have to be the defense that has to be dominant if we ever stand a chance to win anything.
 

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Cowboy_love_4ever said:
Yeah, I just think that we have way too long to go to build a dominant offense. We would need a franchise QB/LG/C/RT/#1WR/ and a coach that is not conservative. And atleast 4 probowlers on offense.

We are much closer to dominance on defense. Let's finish it!
Hallelujah.

Preach it loud and proud.

Amen.
 

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Yes, make sure we finish the defense. Then work on the O-Line.
 

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I think we can finish the D and still upgrade the OL.
 

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Give me John Abraham in FA along with Landry, Simpson, Huff, Smith or a dropping Williams(VT) in the first and Spencer Harver in the 3rd and you can call me happy.
 

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Cbz40 said:
I think we can finish the D and still upgrade the OL.
I agree, I don't think we need much for what BP likes to do on offense. We just need a tackle and maybe a center.

He can snatch a fast WR/kick returner in the 7th or something.
 

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Sad part is we could have had a dominant defense this year had we stayed with the 4-3 and gotten a good FS.

I agree with your idea though. I also believe it is easier to build a dominant defense than a dominant offense. So lets get it done.
 

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...develop dominant lines defensively and offensively?

But most important, don't leave points on the field when you are inside the opponents' 25.

Let's find a way to get back the three important game turning field goals we lost this season.

It won't cost us a ton and it one less headache for the coaches and one less thing for us fans to gripe about. This is suppose to be an easy fix. For about two million we can get us a real long snapper and a accurate FG kicker from inside 40 yards.

(Now that's what I would call a sensible and affordable wish list!!!)
 

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Here's the thing. Marco Rivera is a pro bowl player who had a bad year in a new system. Next year he bounces back and johnson/gurode continue to hold down center spot. Flozell returns for left tackle and LA is solid as usualy. Put up the money for a right OT and for ray lewis at inside lb.

Kalen Thorton, Al Singleton, Burnett and Ware make a solid olb group and lewis, james, fowler and shanle makes our ilbs so much better w/ the addition of lewis. Even though he's falling off, he could make one tackle a game that would get our defense riled up and help take our D to another level!!

W/ our d possibly the best it's ever been and a solid o-line in front of drew, it's smooth sailing.

I know, not gonna happen.
 

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davidyee said:
...develop dominant lines defensively and offensively?

But most important, don't leave points on the field when you are inside the opponents' 25.

Let's find a way to get back the three important game turning field goals we lost this season.

It won't cost us a ton and it one less headache for the coaches and one less thing for us fans to gripe about. This is suppose to be an easy fix. For about two million we can get us a real long snapper and a accurate FG kicker from inside 40 yards.

(Now that's what I would call a sensible and affordable wish list!!!)
OUTSTANDING! You hit it right on the spot. I'll bet you that a kicker/LS/and a tackle will fix the line. You can get a cheap Center and a cheap WR.
 

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JFlgn said:
Kalen Thorton, Al Singleton, Burnett and Ware make a solid olb group and lewis, james, fowler and shanle makes our ilbs so much better w/ the addition of lewis.
I don't care for any of those except Ware and possibly Lewis, but Burnett is a back up for another couple of years, and we need a true threat off the edge (OLB) and this is the year to get him.
 

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Thorton was built for the 3-4 and was pushing al singleton for first team in camp. Singleton was a solid olb for us and didn't make the mistakes Fujita did by getting sucked in. Burnett was a rookie this year and played like one. He'll only get better and now he has legit experience under his belt, he should look good next year. We have a true threat in Ware.
 
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I'm not too happy about having a 33-year old QB and a porous offensive line...I think the Cowboys are more ahead of the game on the defensive side of the ball so I could see them focusing on the offense line and WR through the draft....Maybe draft Omar Jacobs to be the future QB (wishful thinking).

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