Life after Romo

erod said:
Here's the problem.

Outside of Luck, the young quarterbacks in the NFL are not good, and the guys in college don't look promising.

Quarterbacks in college aren't being properly developed for the NFL game.

I see ugly pro football soon.
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A lot more spread offense. It has infiltrated all the way down to Pee Wee football.
 
erod said:
Where quarterbacks aren't asked to think. They get destroyed in the NFL.
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If you have pro potential then you need to go to a school that has a system capable of getting you NFL ready. If you're going to some spread one read offense, you've wasted 3-4 years perfecting a skill set that won't translate into the NFL. What's worse, is usually by the time you get to the NFL those things are harder to learn at this level. Theres been 2 or 3 upper echelon caliber QBs drafted since Rodgers. That's why it is incredibly important to maximize the franchise QB we have because in all likelihood, it's going to be a long wait before we see another QB of this caliber.
 
Hope and trying to gamble on luck have always been traits of the Dallas FO post Johnson. They've been playing money ball with the DL and now RB positions trying to outsmart the rest of the league. They'll do the same with the QB position unless they really learn a lesson from this season with out Romo. We'll see this off season.
 
To say we haven't been competitive is a crazy statement. Other then the 2nd half of the Patriots game we had chances to win and came up short.

I do however agree we need to draft QBs but at the same time I understand why we haven't. Garrett has basically turned over almost the compete roster with younger and more talented players. Draft picks have gone to places we needed starters and key role guys. What has hurt was trading for guys like Mo and D law. Not to say they won't produce but we gave up a 2nd and 3rd for them.

Here is to hoping we find our Brady because it doesn't look like we will draft a QB in the top rounds. I know Garrett liked Dalton a few years ago but was gone before our pick. We have a great young core but they lack vet leadership once Romo went out. Your QB can't play like a scared puppy. ....Weeden. ..and expect a team to rally
 
Wolfpack said:
Hope and trying to gamble on luck have always been traits of the Dallas FO post Johnson. They've been playing money ball with the DL and now RB positions trying to outsmart the rest of the league. They'll do the same with the QB position unless they really learn a lesson from this season with out Romo. We'll see this off season.
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They have thrown high picks and top free agents at the DL, not sure what you mean there

Crawford. 3rd
D law. 2nd and 3rd
Gregory 2nd
Hardy and Mincey free agents
 
bkight13 said:
One time in 20 years and everyone acts like that is a plan.

Plus Rodgers fell to 24 in the draft after being talked about as the first overall.

If an Aaron Rodgers falls to 24 again I authorize us to draft him.
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Green Bay had a plan to draft and develop a QB behind Brett Favre for several years. Once the QB developed, the Packers traded the player for a draft choice. Rodgers came at the very end of Favre's career and developed enough to where the Packers were willing to let Favre go.

Brett Favre was with the Packers 1992-2007.

They drafted Ty Detmer in 1992. He was there 4 seasons before signing with the Eagles as a free agent,

They drafted Mark Brunell in 1993 in the 5th round. in 1995, GB traded him to Jacksonville for a 3rd and a 5th.

They drafted Matt Hasselbeck in 1998 in the 6th round. In 2001, they traded him and their 1st to Seattle for their higher 1st and a 3rd round pick.

They drafted Aaron Brooks in 1999 in the 4th round, and traded him to New Orleans in 2000 for a 3rd round pick.

They drafted Rodgers in 2005.

Even with Rodgers, they drafted Matt Flynn in 2008, and recently Brett Hundley this past draft.

Meanwhile, since Romo was named starter back in 2006, the Cowboys have only drafted one QB (Stephen McGee).
 
bkight13 said:
Why is everyone in such a hurry to replace Romo. These weeks show that we should do whatever we can to keep him here and upright? He has 4-5 more years. Look at Favre, Brees , Brady, Peyton, Palmer.
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no one is in a hurry to replace romo. he's great. he won't play forever, though. every team must plan for the day when their current qb will retire.
 
Junglist said:
The Packers got Rodgers when they still had Favre. Why wait until Romo is gone HOPING the next QB will pan out? If you have a QB to groom, at least you'll have a year [or two] to evaluate whether he's a viable option. Unfortunately, this team will wait until Romo's done; they kept Weeden around.
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And if we draft a QB early in the 2016 draft, what can we do but HOPE that we didn't just waste a first-round pick on a player who won't even play until 2019 at the earliest? I would rather draft a DT and HOPE that he will help transform our defense into the best in the NFL, and HOPEFULLY that will help Romo win a couple of Super Bowls before he's done.

How would you like to have Andrew Luck? Well the Colts didn't plan on life after Peyton... Manning got injured early in the 2011 season so the Colts totally sucked and got the #1 pick... If you want a true top-shelf QB, half of them seem to be taken #1 overall, and even that doesn't guarantee that you won't draft a Jamarcus Russell instead of an Andrew Luck... ... When Romo retires, which according to him is probably after the 2019 or 2020 season, we might suck for a year or two, but so what, that's when we can draft our next franchise QB...

That's the same formula that won us our last 3 Super Bowls after we went 3-13 in 1988, which allowed us to select Troy Aikman #1 overall in the 1989 draft... And Troy didn't have time to be groomed, he started 11 games as a rookie for a 1-15 Dallas team... But I think learning on the job worked out pretty good for Troy as they were able to draft Emmitt Smith in the first-round in 1990, and would win their first of three Super Bowls in 1992.
 
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Irvin88_4life said:
They have thrown high picks and top free agents at the DL, not sure what you mean there

Crawford. 3rd
D law. 2nd and 3rd
Gregory 2nd
Hardy and Mincey free agents
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Hardy is on a one-year contract and needs to be re-signed. Mincey is just okay... The last defensive player they took in the 1st-round was Mo Claiborne in 2012... The last time before that was Mike Jenkins in 2008, but they also had two 1st-round picks that year and wasted the other on Felix Jones. It's beyond time to go defense in the 1st-round, hopefully a really good DT or FS/SS.
pugilist said:
those QBs don't have half the injuries in their career that Romo has (Palmer comes close with his 2 torn ACLs)
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Coming into this season, career starts missed
Brady - 15
Romo - 15
Rodgers - 8
Brees - 7

Also remember when Romo missed 10 games with a broken collarbone in 2009 that he could have only missed 7 games, but we were already out of contention so they shut him down for the season... So his real games missed because of injury coming into this season could have been more like 12...

Brees has been remarkably healthy over the course of his career, as has Rodgers, and Brady for that matter, but all of them are just one play away from being right there with Romo in terms of games missed. You act like Romo is made of glass, but he played in 17 out of 18 games last season coming off back surgery.
 
cowboyuptx said:
Hardy is on a one-year contract and needs to be re-signed. Mincey is just okay... The last defensive player they took in the 1st-round was Mo Claiborne in 2012... The last time before that was Mike Jenkins in 2008, but they also had two 1st-round picks that year and wasted the other on Felix Jones. It's beyond time to go defense in the 1st-round, hopefully a really good DT or FS/SS.


Coming into this season, career starts missed
Brady - 15
Romo - 15
Rodgers - 8
Brees - 7

Also remember when Romo missed 10 games with a broken collarbone in 2009 that he could have only missed 7 games, but we were already out of contention so they shut him down for the season... So his real games missed because of injury coming into this season could have been more like 12...

Brees has been remarkably healthy over the course of his career, as has Rodgers, and Brady for that matter, but all of them are just one play away from being right there with Romo in terms of games missed. You act like Romo is made of glass, but he played in 17 out of 18 games last season coming off back surgery.
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Agree with most of what you're saying, but the Cowboys drafted B. Jones in the 1st this year. I know Gregory wasn't drafted in the 1st, but he is a top 10 talent from this draft class as well so they did invest there this season.
 
cowboyuptx said:
Hardy is on a one-year contract and needs to be re-signed. Mincey is just okay... The last defensive player they took in the 1st-round was Mo Claiborne in 2012... The last time before that was Mike Jenkins in 2008, but they also had two 1st-round picks that year and wasted the other on Felix Jones. It's beyond time to go defense in the 1st-round, hopefully a really good DT or FS/SS.


Coming into this season, career starts missed
Brady - 15
Romo - 15
Rodgers - 8
Brees - 7

Also remember when Romo missed 10 games with a broken collarbone in 2009 that he could have only missed 7 games, but we were already out of contention so they shut him down for the season... So his real games missed because of injury coming into this season could have been more like 12...

Brees has been remarkably healthy over the course of his career, as has Rodgers, and Brady for that matter, but all of them are just one play away from being right there with Romo in terms of games missed. You act like Romo is made of glass, but he played in 17 out of 18 games last season coming off back surgery.
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yeah i wasn't talking about games missed, i'm talking about # of injuries, and for the record I think Romo is one of the toughest PLAYERS in the NFL (let alone QBs). Physically because the guy guts it out through some pretty painful stuff, and mentally because of all of the crap on the field and off the field he has to take.

Off the top of my head here are injuries I can think of:

Romo: 5

- broken collarbone 2010
- fractured rib / punctured lung 2011
- herniated disc in back 2013
- fractured transverse process in his back 2014
- broken clavicle 2015

Brady: 1
- Torn ACL in i think it was the first game of the year (i forget which year). Matt Cassel came in and won games

Rodgers: 2
- Shoulder injury (forget which year). when Matt Flynn was the backup.. 2012 maybe?
- Calf injury 2014


My point is the # of injuries add up and as the body gets older they take their toll, therefore Romo's longevity probably isn't quite as good as those other QBs
 
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Ugh, this topic gets old. Romo isn't going anywhere for a while. His replacement is in high school somewhere right now.

Going without Romo while he is on the mend isn't preparing us for life after Romo, rather it should be forcing us to appreciate how good this team can be with him.
 
Tenkamenin said:
You didn't watch Chad Hutchinson and Clint Stoerner play?
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I remember those years and boy were they painful to watch. It doesn't matter, because I still watched. You can't call yourself a real fan if you're only around for the good times. There's a name for what that is. And besides, it's those bad times that make the good times enjoyable.

Whats sad is those are the 1st years I really remember with actually being able to understand. I was too young to really comprehend the dynasty teams. All I know as a Cowboy fan is the seasons that end in a meaningless game or defeat. I hope that changes before Romo retires.
 
mrtxstar said:
Ugh, this topic gets old. Romo isn't going anywhere for a while. His replacement is in high school somewhere right now.

Going without Romo while he is on the mend isn't preparing us for life after Romo, rather it should be forcing us to appreciate how good this team can be with him.
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And make us realize we need to dedicate every resource available for his last few seasons because it could be ugly for a while after he's gone.
 
erod said:
Here's the problem.

Outside young quarterbacks in the NFL are not good, and the guys in college don't look promising.

Quarterbacks in college aren't being properly developed for the NFL game.

I see ugly pro football soon.
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That's one of the reasons it is ideal to draft a legit QB prospect to groom now. This team is still young if we don't have Romo's replacement in the folds we may as well plan on a fire sale when he does call it quits. Which could be 4-5 years from now or with another back injury sooner than anyone could anticipate.
 
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