Lions Exploring Trading Suh - Would You Want Him?

[ABQCOWBOY]

There is nothing wrong with the information on that site. It's how you added it up that is completely wrong.

I will use the simple scenario where he plays out the contract and then leaves as a free agent after 2015.
In this case you have to add up all of the numbers from 2010 to 2015 with the exception that the 2015 base = Zero. When you add all of those numbers together, it is 64.375M. Now to calculate the average, you have to use 5 years which is the number of years that he played. Using these Spotrac numbers, 64.375/5=12.875M which is even higher that what I said.

Summary: According to the numbers in Spotrac's table, he averaged 12.875M if he plays out the contract. He were cut and didn't receive the 2014 base of 12.55M, then the average over the 4 years he played would be even higher.

Don't agree. The guaranteed money on this contract was 23.25 Million, of which, I believe the numbers indicate 22.775 million have already been paid out.

You can see what has been paid out since 2010. It's not 12 million a year.

**Edit**

Lets say that it was 12 Million, which I do not believe is realistic, but lets just say it is. Are you saying that we could not find a way to fit his salary under our cap? I don't believe that's true. It think we could.

Who are we going to draft that is going to be better then Suh?

 

[xwalker]

Don't agree. The guaranteed money on this contract was 23.25 Million, of which, I believe the numbers indicate 22.775 million have already been paid out.

You can see what has been paid out since 2010. It's not 12 million a year.

That number was the initial guarantee. It's the amount that he would have been paid if he was cut after his rookie season.

There was a 24.5M additional guarantee that kicked in if he was on the roster in March of his 2nd season. Then they restructured his contract multiple times which gives him bonuses that are guaranteed.

When you look at that table on Spotrac, all of the money in the Roster Bonus, Option Bonus and Restruc. Bonus columns has already been paid and is "guaranteed". The only thing that is not guaranteed is the money in the base and workout bonus columns. He's already received the base and workout bonus for all years prior to 2014 so obviously those are now "guaranteed".

In the scenario that I gave you, where he plays out the contract, the amount that is guaranteed is irrelevant anyway.

Paging @jterrell or someone that can explain in different words from mine what Suh's average salary has been on his 5 year, 63.5M contract with a voidable 6th year.

 

[cowboysooner]

Xwalker is correct. From that draft Bradford's aav was 13 mm, suh 12.7mm, McCoy 11mm, and Williams 10mm.

The bucs and rams don't have 10mm of unalocated bonus the lions have because of 3 guys making more than $12 million per.