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Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington left Detroit in January after the 2005 season thinking he might need a fresh start somewhere else, even if it meant giving up millions of dollars and accepting a backup job. When the new coaching staff came in and the Lions showed him support, Harrington was caught off-guard.

When he walked into the Lions' Allen Park headquarters last week for "quarterback school" with offensive coordinator Mike Martz, he just got the feeling the damage was done. He couldn't buy back into the idea that he could lead the Lions to victory because the team chemistry was too bad. He expressed his concerns, and the Lions agreed to let him go. Harrington is expected to be traded or released by the weekend.
 

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Harrington rep. was permanently damaged in 2005. With Dre Bly "TOing" him, pretty much I think Harrington fate with Lions was sealed at that time. Apparently it has been a divided locker room since Dre Bly's idiotic statements, which didn't get as much attention as TO got, obviously since Dre is not the player TO is anyway.

Its idiotic since, Jeff Garcia, was clearly worse player than Harrington was at that point in 2005. Besides, Lions are pretty much a burial ground for QBs. I dont know Harrington will ever recover from that damage, not that he is such a great talent or anything. But I thought, although he had somewhat of limited arm strength, he would have been a Good enough QB, in right circumstances.
 

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Here's even more....I posted this in the other Harrington thread.

Joey is a baby!!!!!!!!
Maybe he was late for his Piano practice.

No thanks.
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By Tom Kowalski
Joey Harrington is going, going -- but not gone yet.

The Detroit Lions quarterback won't be back with the team next year, but he might stay on the roster for a while. The Lions will try to salvage something out of the situation and attempt to trade Harrington -- and they might be willing to wait for the right deal.

Harrington's fate in Detroit was sealed Thursday when the Lions signed free-agent quarterback Josh McCown (Arizona Cardinals) to a two-year deal, just two days after signing free agent Jon Kitna (Cincinnati Bengals). McCown and Kitna will compete in training camp for the starting quarterback job.

Those signings squeezed Harrington out of the Lions' future plans, but Harrington played a big role in punching his own bus ticket out of town.

Harrington was so adamant about leaving the Lions that several people close to the situation believe he sabotaged his appearance at last week's "quarterback school" with new offensive coordinator Mike Martz.

During the classroom sessions, when asked to go to the board and break down plays, Harrington put forth little effort. When asked to either open his playbook or to take notes, Harrington either refused or was extremely slow to do so. He was lethargic and uncooperative. According to sources, it was quickly apparent to Martz that Harrington had no desire to be there.

After Martz and Harrington had words, Harrington went into a meeting with Lions officials and told them he didn't want to play for Detroit any longer. Harrington was so determined to leave the team that, according to sources, he said he'd be willing to restructure his contract in any way that would quicken his release.

Harrington's desire to leave the Lions was sparked not by the management or the new coaching staff, but the entire negative environment that surrounded him, including fans, media and his own teammates. According to sources, Harrington told team officials during an emotional exchange that "I hate everybody on this team and everybody hates me."

Martz, along with Lions president Matt Millen and head coach Rod Marinelli, were unavailable for comment on Thursday. Harrington is reportedly vacationing in Thailand.

The Lions begin their voluntary off-season workout schedule on Monday and Harrington is not expected to attend.

Harrington has a salary cap figure of about $12 million for this season: a $4 million roster bonus that is due on June 15, a $4.5 million salary for the 2006 season and $3.5 million in pro-rated signing bonuses (from previous seasons).

Under the new collective bargaining agreement, the Lions can designate Harrington as a June 1 cut, but can actually release him before that date and still benefit. In that scenario, Harrington would cost $3.5 million against the team's salary cap in both the 2006 and 2007 seasons.

However, if the Lions trade Harrington, his total cap number hits immediately and $7 million would come off Detroit's cap this season. In 2006 salary and bonuses, the Lions will pay Kitna ($4.5 million) and McCown ($4 million) about the same money they were going to pay Harrington this season.

The Lions know they aren't going to get great value for Harrington, but the team has only six draft choices this season so they're eager to add whatever they can -- even if it's late-round picks on the second day of the draft.

The Lions are in no financial hurry to deal with Harrington. The only way they'd be pressured to make a move is if they need his $4.5 million salary cap money to go to signing another free agent or when June 15 arrives, because that's when his $4 million roster bonus is due.

Harrington's offer of reducing his contract to accelerate a quicker release doesn't mean anything because the only numbers that count -- the total of $7 million in pro-rated bonuses -- can't be changed.
 

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With the WR's they have out there - 2005 - should have been a big year for him.
He did not step it up - neither did Garcia for that matter.

I guess they thought that even with the average O line he should do fantastic.
 

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Longboysfan said:
With the WR's they have out there - 2005 - should have been a big year for him.
He did not step it up - neither did Garcia for that matter.

I guess they thought that even with the average O line he should do fantastic.

No, their WRs other than Roy Williams, when he is healthy, pretty much suck. THey took TE/WR Mike Williams, who seems like will never make it as WR, unless he loses bunch of weight and increases his speed somehow.

Charles rogers can't stay away from pipe. Detroit WRs always lead the league in dropped passes too.
 

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Let me preface this by saying that I don't get a chance to watch Harrington often. However, I attended the Detroit game last year and thought he looked pretty good, but his receivers were dropping balls all over the place. That coupled with untimely penalties were the reason the Cowboys won the game.

Now he may indeed be a crappy QB but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to say that he hasn't had a fair shot. There is no way that team could have any cohesiveness with all the coaching changes that have taken place since he's been there. Not to mention the fact that the GM uses three 1'st round picks on wide receivers as opposed to say.....offensive line. I think the jury is still out on Harrington. Do I want him as a Cowboy? Depends on the price. Do you think he's worse than Romo or Henson?
 

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I live 2 hours away from Ford Field, I have seen him live and a ton on TV. Believe me when I say we want no part of this guy.
 

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I live 2 hours away from Ford Field, I have seen him live and a ton on TV. Believe me when I say we want no part of this guy.

And I used to live in Detroit, moved from there 2004 and have seen him since he first game. Do I want part of this guy? No.

But he is not as bad as some want to believe. You cannot have a team leading the league in dropped passes every year, and put that on a QB. The WRs have sucked no matter how many first rounders they have picked. Roy Williams as good as he has been, hasn't been mister consistancy himself either, seems like he caught the Detroit WR bug.
 

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And I used to live in Detroit, moved from there 2004 and have seen him since he first game. Do I want part of this guy? No.

But he is not as bad as some want to believe. You cannot have a team leading the league in dropped passes every year, and put that on a QB. The WRs have sucked no matter how many first rounders they have picked. Roy Williams as good as he has been, hasn't been mister consistancy himself either, seems like he caught the Detroit WR bug.

I agree from a straight skill evaluation. I would say he has solid skills, but outstanding in one particular area (ie armstrength/pocket presence/reading defenses/scrambling etc etc)

The problem with this guy imo..is that he lacks any kind of leadership qualities that are needed to be a good QB. He has a major confidence problem. I don't know if he picked on in school or something, but he needs to toughen up.

I would be apalled if we signed Joey....I'll take Aaron Brooks before this guy.
 

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I agree from a straight skill evaluation. I would say he has solid skills, but outstanding in one particular area (ie armstrength/pocket presence/reading defenses/scrambling etc etc)

The problem with this guy imo..is that he lacks any kind of leadership qualities that are needed to be a good QB. He has a major confidence problem. I don't know if he picked on in school or something, but he needs to toughen up.

I would be apalled if we signed Joey....I'll take Aaron Brooks before this guy.

You know, thats the main reason I liked Joey when he came to NFL, since I thought he would be a bust when he was selected by Lions initially, since I thought he was way ovverated.

But during his first start, he was such an animated guy, talking to all his teammates, trying to fire them up etc. Then it slowly started to fade in 2003 and so on so forth, that he now has become a dividing force. I don't know what it is, but Detroit seems to have this knack for making even decent QB look like absolute craps, and ethusiastic, fired up QBs look like uninterested teammates.

Its something strange in Detroit, that it seems like they are forever now without a good QB. And seems like, pretty much, QBs go there to totally distroy their careers.
 
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