Lions WR-Roy Williams likely to leave

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Williams, Jones likely to leave

by Tom Kowalski Tuesday December 04, 2007, 12:15 AM




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AP PhotoDetroit's Roy Williams, right, likely would prefer to play for a team closer to his home in Texas. Teammate Kevin Jones is frustrated with his role in the offense.
ALLEN PARK -- Neither player will say it publicly, but two of Detroit's best offensive players -- receiver Roy Williams and running back Kevin Jones -- are counting the days until they can leave Detroit.
While the losing seasons have taken their toll on the two players, there are other reasons why they want to leave the Lions organization and their motives aren't exactly the same.
Williams and Jones, who were both first-round draft picks in 2004, will become unrestricted free agents after next season and sources close to the players say they've had enough and want out.
Williams, who could miss the final four games of the regular season with a knee sprain, is averaging almost three yards less per catch than he did last season - his 16.0-yard average in 2006 is down to 13.3 yards this year.
At one time, Williams embraced the teaching of coordinator Mike Martz and even endured his sometimes abrasive coaching style, but that situation has changed. Williams has offered thinly veiled criticisms recently of Detroit's offensive game plan and his role in it.
Still, the overriding factor for Williams is that he simply wants to go home - or get closer to it.
The one thing you learn about Williams very quickly is that he loves Texas and would love to return to his home state. Williams is a Texas guy and mentions it in nearly every interview and flies back to his home in Odessa to see his young child every chance he gets. If the Lions get two consecutive days off, Williams bolts for Texas. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it shows where his heart is.
Last week, Williams brought up his contract situation out of the blue and said he didn't know what his future holds. Williams quickly added that every player wants to stay with the team that originally drafted him but added "It's hard to do now with free agency.''
The situation with Jones is a little different because his entire motivation for leaving is centered on his diminished role in the offense. Jones has become a non-factor with the Lions; he's carried the ball more than 20 times just once all season - his only 100-yard game (in the win at Chicago).
If the Lions make some changes in their offensive philosophy, Jones wouldn't be as adamant about leaving but his frustration level is currently off the charts. Jones believes he's wasting his time with a team that doesn't want to use him and would prefer to suit up for a club that needs a back who actually runs the ball.
The irony of the situation with these two players is that Williams and Jones have been at odds since they had a sideline blowup in Chicago in 2005. There is no longer any outward animosity, but they're hardly the best of friends. Still, they're wishing the best for each other going into next year.
Williams is hoping Jones has a Pro Bowl season in 2008 because if the Lions are going to use the franchise tag on somebody, Williams doesn't want to be the one. Jones is thinking the same thing about Williams; Jones wants to have a breakout season but he doesn't want to get franchised as a result.
At this point, it's highly unlikely that either player would get hit with the franchise tag because of the huge salaries that are involved. The Lions, though, aren't in a position where they can afford to lose any talented players so they might not have a choice.
Williams and Jones have contemplated ways to engineer a quicker exit out of town -- trade demands, holdouts, etc. -- but they don't have any leverage so it's unlikely to happen.
Don't be surprised, though, if the Lions ultimately attempt to trade one or both of the players. While the front office will do everything it can to make them happy and productive -- and win a few games in the process (which will make everybody happy) -- they know it's a battle they might not be able to win.
Williams and Jones aren't likely to admit it publicly, but neither one of them believes their long-term future will be in Detroit.

Hmm what do you guys think?
 

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Trade them Roy Williams for Roy Williams (throw in Carp, Spears and Coakley too)
 

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Lets see...............Play for Houston with Shaub, or Dallas with Romo....... Gonna have to think about this one........

THis is great news IMO. Dare I say we aren't in as dire of need at WR in this years draft if RW has his sights on Dallas in 09?

And if thats the case, wouldn't it make it easier to package up 2 picks for a certain somone from Arkansas?

Things that make you go hmmmm...........
 

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So, each player is hoping the other guy gets franchised :lmao2:
 

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I like Roy Williams but I would definitely be concerned with his injury history. Great player when healthy, but he's fragile. We already got a player like that in Burnett.
 

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Hmm.

Who is it that has been saying for a couple of months that he was going to come home?
 

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Tra_Col99;1811833 said:
Trade them Roy Williams for Roy Williams (throw in Carp, Spears and Coakley too)

I'd rather give them Q-Bong, Clay Shiver and Stepfret Williams

David
 

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Hostile;1811850 said:
Hmm.

Who is it that has been saying for a couple of months that he was going to come home?
I'll take a stab at it...You? :D
 

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Trade Jones for Jones (guess that would not work)and 1 of our 1st for Williams

That would do just fine!
 

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Hostile;1811850 said:
Hmm.

Who is it that has been saying for a couple of months that he was going to come home?
Do you need a sling for that broken arm you have from patting your back?
 

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I take Roy in a New York minute and to be honest, that Roy for Roy deal doesn't sound half-bad. Detroit gets a defensive precense and Dallas gets a serious threat to play opposite T.O.
He has missed the odd game, but Dallas has enough weapons to withstand the inconvenience....I would love to see it happen, though I am not holding my breath.
 

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I take him in Dallas with open arms, for the right price. Glenn will be gone soon and we need to get younger on WR as soon as possible. Come on home Williams!
 

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aikemirv;1811864 said:
Trade Jones for Jones (guess that would not work)and 1 of our 1st for Williams

That would do just fine!

I know this board loves RW (I like him a lot, too), but a 1 to DET for a player with one year on his contract who doesn't want to re-sign and who does want to come to Dallas is too generous.
 

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Idgit;1811892 said:
I know this board loves RW (I like him a lot, too), but a 1 to DET for a player with one year on his contract who doesn't want to re-sign and who does want to come to Dallas is too generous.


True to a degree but the franchise tag is the franchise tag.
 

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Doubt we want to wait around until the chips fall with Roy Williams. However, since I don't follow the Lions and don't know much about Williams is he a speedy WR or a possession kind of guy? Also is he really that good? Would it be worth while to offer Detroit one of our first round picks for Roy Williams rather then draft a WR in the first round?
 

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Idgit;1811892 said:
I know this board loves RW (I like him a lot, too), but a 1 to DET for a player with one year on his contract who doesn't want to re-sign and who does want to come to Dallas is too generous.

Oh, definitely. Wait one more year and get him for $$$ only.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1811907 said:
Oh, definitely. Wait one more year and get him for $$$ only.


I would think it would be at least 2. 2009 he plays as franchised and only signs and plays if they guarantee they won't use it on him again - which is becoming kind of standard for players these days.
 

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aikemirv;1811914 said:
I would think it would be at least 2. 2009 he plays as franchised and only signs and plays if they guarantee they won't use it on him again - which is becoming kind of standard for players these days.

All the speculation I've heard is that with Calvin Johnson getting so much money, they probably wouldn't bother to franchise him and have that much cap space tied in two WRs.
 

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I'd give my left nut for him . I think he's one of the best in the NFL , and has the total package as far as talent and ability . Detroit is where great players go to die , and Williams has managed to stay alive .
 
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