Locker room cancer or give up a boat load of premium picks

21Savage

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What would you rather do?

Most people agree that a pass rush is our biggest need. A franchise QB is either ahead or behind depending on how Romo holds up. At 4, we might be tempted to go with a premium pass rusher like Bosa but you can have a guy in Hardy who can give you the same level of play or better for a few years. And he is on the streets.

My point is that putting up with someone like Hardy might give you more leeway to take a QB at 4 to groom for the future while still getting a lot of help for your D by picking another premium defensive position at 34 like a Karl Joseph and maybe still getting an impact defensive player in the 3rd.

We see what the going price of moving up for a franchise QB is. This is what we are looking at in future drafts. It is likely cost prohibitive.

Also, I believe part of the delay in Romo getting his surgery done (something that was a risk to him but was done to ensure his long term viability for the franchise) might have been a commitment from the team to use our premium picks to add help on the D rather than his competition. I think this might be playing into Jerry's stance.

Jerry's words on not being ready to close the door on Hardy might just be his caveat that if he invests a premium pick in QB who's gonna be holding a clipboard for now then he might be more apt to bring him back to help this team win now.
 

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I don't think Bosa is a premium pass rusher.

Regardless. He's a likely immediate impact defensive player that is made more unnecessary if you put up with Hardy and that gives you the luxury of maybe taking a Lynch that high if you're in love with him.
 

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Regardless. He's a likely immediate impact defensive player that is made more unnecessary if you put up with Hardy and that gives you the luxury of maybe taking a Lynch that high if you're in love with him.

I have posted that I think Hardy will eventually be resigned but makes no difference. I don't think the Cowboys will draft Lynch at 4. If QBs go in the first three picks, I think we will be taking Ramsey or trading down.

JMO
 

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What would you rather do?

Most people agree that a pass rush is our biggest need. A franchise QB is either ahead or behind depending on how Romo holds up. At 4, we might be tempted to go with a premium pass rusher like Bosa but you can have a guy in Hardy who can give you the same level of play or better for a few years. And he is on the streets.

My point is that putting up with someone like Hardy might give you more leeway to take a QB at 4 to groom for the future while still getting a lot of help for your D by picking another premium defensive position at 34 like a Karl Joseph and maybe still getting an impact defensive player in the 3rd.

We see what the going price of moving up for a franchise QB is. This is what we are looking at in future drafts. It is likely cost prohibitive.

Also, I believe part of the delay in Romo getting his surgery done (something that was a risk to him but was done to ensure his long term viability for the franchise) might have been a commitment from the team to use our premium picks to add help on the D rather than his competition. I think this might be playing into Jerry's stance.

Jerry's words on not being ready to close the door on Hardy might just be his caveat that if he invests a premium pick in QB who's gonna be holding a clipboard for now then he might be more apt to bring him back to help this team win now.

If you listened to Charles Haley last year on show, he said 50% of defensive players were just collecting checks. I put Hardy in that group. I want as few of those guys as possible on this team.
 

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That is the tragedy of this draft. Fourth pick. Should have our choice of the best defenders but instead we have this assortment of players, all of which we have to pretend are actually going to be better than they have been.

Agree, I'm more for a trade back but worried our "brain trust" won't get good value in the trade back. Dilemma city.
 

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I think we can still build for the future and the present in this draft and free agency.

Sign Greg Hardy
Sign Dominique Easley
Trade our #4 to Tennessee for the #15 and the two 2nds they acquired
^Might have to throw in our 4th rounder to sweeten the deal^
Draft Lynch with the #15
^Draft best edge rusher (Lawson/Spence) if Lynch is gone at 15^
Draft Karl Joseph with one of our 2nds
Draft best DT (Nkemdiche/Butler/Jones/Clark) with one of our 2nds
Draft best WR (Fuller/Doctson/Boyd/Thomas) with one of our 2nds
Draft Jaylon Smith with our 3rd to redshirt rookie year

You got a play maker on offense, your future QB or DE, interior pass rusher, starting safety, future blue chip LB, and some veteran high risk/high reward players who could easily be cut if they don't act right.
 

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If we don't address the QB position we will back in the top 10 in the next 2 years.

No way Romo stays healthy and we have Kellen Moore as a backup.

LOL! Relax bkight13...Dallas will address a backup. Whether it is Josh McCown or Nick Foles. Someone will be released and Dallas will cut a check. I think they should have gotten Colt McCoy or Chase Daniels but hey...
 

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No rookie pass rusher is going to have the same level of play as hardy the 1st few years. Doubt bosa would get more than 2-3 sacks this year.
 

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If we don't address the QB position we will back in the top 10 in the next 2 years.

No way Romo stays healthy and we have Kellen Moore as a backup.

That's got to be the FO strategy, go with the status quo at QB and next year we'll have the #2!
 

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If you listened to Charles Haley last year on show, he said 50% of defensive players were just collecting checks. I put Hardy in that group. I want as few of those guys as possible on this team.

Cut half the starters on D?
 

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LOL! Relax bkight13...Dallas will address a backup. Whether it is Josh McCown or Nick Foles. Someone will be released and Dallas will cut a check. I think they should have gotten Colt McCoy or Chase Daniels but hey...

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And Ramsey is not an elite corner. One year in the ACC. Hardly.

Don't see an elite corner making a difference In Dallas. When you mostly play zone your only as good as the crappy safety next to you.
 
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