Losing L. Allen, gaining K. Kosier - pros and cons

[Big Country]

Losing L. Allen

Pros - versatility... possible reinsallation of a good screen game... maybe no more surprise run blitzes by linebackers... Larry was very prone to failure during these plays, especially if he whiffed on his own man... the LBer crashes into the backfield and Dallas goes negative for the lateral running play. Last year I saw more than one occasion LA chunking a shoulder because his feet never got him far into the second level.

Cons - DTs used to call in sick on game day when they knew they were facing Larry, but this was mostly in his prime... Dominating rush blocker when he was able to pull effectively. Madden loved him. Emmitt rushing to the left was a common offensive play, but that played out quick when defensive coordinators devised every conceivable call to combat that play... Norv Turner did it well in the mid 90s when he run blitzed his Commander defense time after time. Running behind LA worked for years however.


Gaining K. Kosier

Pros - We don't know much about this guy... He will be watched closely in TC and pre-season... Mark my words... teams that start out blitzing Dallas feverishly (ie Eagles, Skins) will have to focus on the Bledsoe to TO factor... TO can take it to the house in a pinch unlike Key... Key could probably not beat Larry Allen in a 40 yd footrace... Kosier does bring youth to the Dallas running game, which if able, should be better suited for playing the screen pass game... also with a healthy Rivera and heavier and better prepared Al Johnson, we could see some yards in this area. Julius Jones does better in a one back set and as I saw in Carolina last year, Julius was still able to dodge a big push up the middle and make things happen... A more athletic line, which is what the doctor ordered, should make things open up even more for JJo.

Cons - I still see the Arrington block that set Kosier on his fanny when he was a 49er I believe... If that doesn't happen or worse even, an injury, Dallas should have an improved OL... Kosier probably can't bench press 700+ lbs. but if you can't get to the second level, that 700+ bench press aint gonna help much...

 

[Star Struck]

I'm not sure about Kosier, but I seem to recall Larry drawing a few too many penalty yards over the last couple of years. I won't miss that...

 

[2much2soon]

Lots of wildcards on the offensive line.
Is Flo recovered enough to return to his pre-injury form?
Is Rivera " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " "
Will Al Johnson be solid?
Has Petitti truly improved?
Kosier may be the biggest question mark of all the above.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think the key part of the Allen evaluation is the use of the phrase "used to" -- folks here need to recognize that Larry's play had deteriorated considerable. LA isn't going to get better -- He'll just keep getting worse. Kosier however can improve.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The problem with Allen is that when most people watch him, they only get to see the highlights of him pancaking some defender. But, he was extremely one dimensional the past few years. When he'd get his hands on a defender, he'd dominate. When he didn't, he'd kill the offense.

It wasn't until this past season that D-Coordinators started to slant him to death and he couldn't get his hands on defenders and he will kill the running game. He has been absolutely dreadful at blocking the "containing defender" on runs to the right which was a big reason why we haven't been able to run effectively to that side.

I don't expect Kosier to be Allen in his prime, but I see a guy that teams just can't slant him to death and he'll help out the runs to the right. Plus, he fits the scheme a lot better so he'll be more effective on pulls and screen.

As long as Kosier stays healthy, I think he'll be an improvement over what Allen provided us last season.

Rich........

 

[AbeBeta]

The problem with Allen is that when most people watch him, they only get to see the highlights of him pancaking some defender.

Strikingly similar to the problem people have in evaluating Kosier -- folks here squak about that play where he got blown up by Lavar Arrington -- and fail to realize that it isn't representative of his play.

 

[Murph80]

Mobility is the main thing that we add to our offense with Kosier instead of Allen. We should be able to do more with Kosier. Larry would pull at times last year and not get to the point of attack quick enough and just whiff on blocks.

Respect is what we lose. People respected and feared Larry regardless how his skills had diminished

 

[big dog cowboy]

Mobility is the main thing that we add to our offense with Kosier instead of Allen. We should be able to do more with Kosier. Larry would pull at times last year and not get to the point of attack quick enough and just whiff on blocks.

Respect is what we lose. People respected and feared Larry regardless how his skills had diminished

Mobility vs. respect? That is easy. I take mobility every time because it translates into more production on the field.

 

[MONT17]

Kosier played 3 years in SF he became a free agent after the 9ers (yes the 9ers told him to take a hike) there was NO MENTION of the COWBOYS wanting to sign him before signed in DETROIT last year... is there!?!?! I would think if Kosier had the "great" year that the COWBOYS says he had in DETROIT then the BOYS should have signed KOSIER and not RIVERA and this signing is to offset the screw up from the year before!!!

Now we got COWBOY fans rippin LA sayin he is not what he used to be... what do u think PACK fans are saying about RIVERA? is RIVERA what he used to be?


I guess if KOSIER was that good why didnt the COWBOYS sign him the year before or why didnt he get deals in FRISCO and ROIT... if his 05 season was a VAST improvement why is he on the FREE AGENT MARKET for the second year in a row after being let go by 2 of the WEAKEST TEAMS in the NFL!!!


I think this is a case of when a player does well v. your team u fall in love with him... IMO, Parcells fell in love with what KOSIER did v. the BOYS and I guess that translates in BILLs book!!! I also feel that BILL fell in love with the fact he played multiple positions in DETROIT something I dont think he did in FRISCO because if he did it begs the question "why didnt the BOYS sign him last year?"... we all know BILL loves guys who can play more than 1 position almost to a fault but to say KOSIER is better than an OLD LA is laughable and desperate!!!



u wanna RIP LA go ahead if it makes u feel better he landed on his feet playing in his Home state... but I would rather have LA over KOSIER any day of the week!!!


ask yourself this if LA was so bad last year... why didnt he get benched? or at least subbed a cpl of downs? All I hear is LA couldnt do this or he sux he was a liability in everything the BOYS did... where are the POSITIVES for this guy KOSIER? not once has someone said KOSIER was the best BLOCKER on his team or he shut down a PROBOWL DT... NOTHING and that speaks volumes!!!




I dare all of u RANCH HEADS to PRODUCE VIDIEO of KOSIERs success over the last few seasons to warrant his contract!!! thank god I have the LIONS game from last year so I will pop it in and see what KOSIER can do for myself!!!








sad

 

[Hostile]

I dare all of u RANCH HEADS to PRODUCE VIDIEO of KOSIERs success over the last few seasons to warrant his contract!!! thank god I have the LIONS game from last year so I will pop it in and see what KOSIER can do for myself!!!








sad

For the last time, this isn't the Ranch. Go shout at them over there and save our eyes.

 

[big dog cowboy]

For the last time, this isn't the Ranch. Go shout at them over there and save our eyes.

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

 

[jazzcat22]

Mobility is the main thing that we add to our offense with Kosier instead of Allen. We should be able to do more with Kosier. Larry would pull at times last year and not get to the point of attack quick enough and just whiff on blocks.

Respect is what we lose. People respected and feared Larry regardless how his skills had diminished

True, also LA wasn't getting up field for blocking as quick as he use to. When he could make 2 or 3 blocks on a good run play. The last few years, he wasn't getting there fast enough, and only getting his first block, but hardly those 2nd's.

 

[AbeBeta]

Kosier played 3 years in SF he became a free agent after the 9ers (yes the 9ers told him to take a hike) there was NO MENTION of the COWBOYS wanting to sign him before signed in DETROIT last year... is there!?!?!

Kosier was a restricted free agent, meaning that a team would have to give up a draft pick to sign him -- we didn't pursue RFA that year at all b/c we were already down a pick (3rd rounder).

If you want to use logic then you might want to make sure your assumptions are correct.

 

[wileedog]

ask yourself this if LA was so bad last year... why didnt he get benched?

I can give you 7 million reasons.



:jackpot:

 

[Kangaroo]

True, also LA wasn't getting up field for blocking as quick as he use to. When he could make 2 or 3 blocks on a good run play. The last few years, he wasn't getting there fast enough, and only getting his first block, but hardly those 2nd's.

He was not getting the 1st block in the running game in fact Torrin Tucker was the better run blocker but Torrin is not a very good tackle and should have been a guard like he played in college but thats another story.

I broke down film of several games Larry to often on the running game miss read the wrong block letting lb to shot in and make the tackle from the area he just left. larry whiffed on almost every pulling play he had to do.

Basicly Larry sucked did not ceserve the Pro Bowl and only exceled when guys ran straight at him basicly he locked good on most passing downs because he could use his brute strength

 

[Juke99]

I began worrying about Allen when he started with the bench pressing thing. Cleary, he lost a ton of mobility by bulking up as much as he did...

In recent times, I have been amazed at how poorly he operates in ANY space...although he did a nice job in space with Cortez.

That doesn't minimize what he did in the past. The guy was just flat out awesome...but that wasn't the case the last few years.

 

[MONT17]

Kosier was a restricted free agent, meaning that a team would have to give up a draft pick to sign him -- we didn't pursue RFA that year at all b/c we were already down a pick (3rd rounder).

If you want to use logic then you might want to make sure your assumptions are correct.

RFA have to be offered a TENDER or they become UFA as I am sure was the case with KOSIER because he sucked in FRISCO!!! Do u know what the tender was! I will look it up but If u really think that then I would think u could come with some links or something!!!

 

[DallasEast]

I began worrying about Allen when he started with the bench pressing thing. Cleary, he lost a ton of mobility by bulking up as much as he did...

In recent times, I have been amazed at how poorly he operates in ANY space...although he did a nice job in space with Cortez.

That doesn't minimize what he did in the past. The guy was just flat out awesome...but that wasn't the case the last few years.

Has Cortez landed on another team yet? Wouldn't it be funny if he landed on a non-49er NFC West team? I can see it now...

Cortez lines up his kick. Suddenly, he hears a voice say, "Hey, Jose! I'm coming to get you sucka!"

I would watch both divisional games just for a chance of seeing that happen.

Allen was the best to ever play his position, but he lost almost all lateral movement. Kosier will never be another Allen, but he will be able to get out of his stance and block from sideline-to-sideline and downfield for Julius Jones and Marion Barber for all four quarters. We haven't seen that kind of consistency from our left guard in a few years.

 

[MONT17]

He was not getting the 1st block in the running game in fact Torrin Tucker was the better run blocker but Torrin is not a very good tackle and should have been a guard like he played in college but thats another story.

I broke down film of several games Larry to often on the running game miss read the wrong block letting lb to shot in and make the tackle from the area he just left. larry whiffed on almost every pulling play he had to do.

Basicly Larry sucked did not ceserve the Pro Bowl and only exceled when guys ran straight at him basicly he locked good on most passing downs because he could use his brute strength

I have almost every game from Last year can u please give me the GAME and TIME of the game so I can see what u are talking about....


thanks

 

[Seven]

so I will pop it in and see what KOSIER can do for myself!!!

That's gross....................