Management by Committee Must be Replaced by Innovative Leadership

[plasticman]

You'll get 10 more years of Jerry and his soaked Depends, followed by 20 more years of his idiot son Fredo, and you'll LIKE IT.

Now drop and give me 20 (shots) and you'll feel better.

There was a time I could come close to obliging you. That time has passed.

I only get one shot for every -10 point differential in the final score.

 

[plasticman]

You just carpal tunnel writing something that while necessary, will never happen

Every winter eventually ends.

Now, whether or not this one will end in my lifetime.....

 

[Captain-Crash]

You guys suck. How are the grandkids going to get into the NFL, if not for fake football guy grandpaw. sheesh, Carl-lot approves of this message.

 

[acr731]

Look,

I can tell you right now you're wrong, This is a corporation anybody who sees the NFL as some mom and pop sport, you know like pickleball or flag football, you're looking at this very oddly.

All corporations by definition are management by committee, there's layers of management from the top down from your CEO to everyone below them, and yes they answer to a board ,,lots of people get in meetings and go over the pros and cons and things that need to be fixed, and they actually basically vote on it.

It isn't like a political vote but it's definitely done by committee there is no such thing as a corporation without a committee, that would be a mom and pop store, that would be a couple of people who own this family business typically a little store on the corner a gas station or something like that,

that would not be management by committee.

You know the Dallas Cowboys have 1200 employees,

when you count everyone from the management the players the trainers the entire staff from top to bottom 1200, they are literally set up just like a corporation, and they all make decisions and yes there's somebody sitting at the top that approves those things or not.

I don't get it somebody below you says it's a family business, it'll never change, it is not a family business, it has happened to be owned by a family who will probably pass it down to other family members, but that does not make it a family business ,it is a corporation, and I'm not sure where 1200 employees fit in the size of a corporation, but it's a pretty big one..

its 1200 employee, 15B corporation... I don't know any of mom and pop places that have that many employees and worth that much money..


He just come out and say what you need to say Everyone keeps hiding the way they try to come on here and bash the Jones family because they don't have A GM, that seems separate, and that has to answer to anyone, and can never fire themselves, and blah blah blah..

we've heard all that already ,

That is the only difference from the Cowboys team to a lot of other teams that are still owned by family members that have been passed out for generations like the Steelers and the Giants Even the Browns the Raiders still own mostly by the Davis' Who by the way went and got outside help right tom Brady tells him to hire an entire new coaching staff that completely fails the draft not that great you shouldn't have picked that running back that high when you had that big of holes and it failed it failed doing it that way as well yes they held the coaching staff accountable but did they hire Tom Brady do a job he didn't do it right cost him 60 million now they're going to let him do it again how's that that different from the Cowboys?

yes, the Irsay family......

I mean the daughter of the owner who just passed away of the Indianapolis Colts handed it down to his daughter isn't that something it's still not a family business, but she's running around on the sidelines at practice, and games with a headset and a play call sheet, it doesn't even matter they have a separate GM.. Looks like the owner is still very involved...


Anybody who gets that idea around that you think that the committee thing is somehow the opposite of what other teams do is insane they literally is always a chain of management and a very large one lots of layers and they all have part in the decisions.

Park some have bigger roles and key roles and smaller roles, but it is a committee by definition of corporation is set up by a committee of decision makers.


Yeah and it's a nice veiled attempt at banging on Jerry for not hiring a separate GM, and letting some of his control go and seeing how that works versus what it's set up now, but this is not a mom and pop shop, this is not a family business, any more than many other NFL teams or sports ownership teams there's lots of families that own these things for generations..

They all are pretty much set up the same except for Jerry decided to stay the GM in title,

but that doesn't mean he doesn't have others that are doing GM duties and I get it that's what you're trying to insinuate that that's the wrong way to do it even though it's pretty much the same outside of Jerry being owner and GM that's it that's the only thing that's different it's set up pretty much the same..

you Want someone more innovative, I get that,

Just say it shorter like that have another thread that hates Jerry being the GM and thinks that he needs to step down hire a football guy and let them take the reins for a while and see how it works..

but those in here that keep acting like this is some small time small fry mom and pop corner restaurant is insane they actually blind to the actual realities of how many employees and layers of management that Jerry and Steven lean on for advice They're professionals at their jobs people who handle the financing and the contracts yes the cap they have experts at every level That work with them...

928 words.......

 

[dupree89]

Yeah, the story goes that there was once a cat that was very good at coming silently and catching and killing the mice. So the mice had a big meeting to brainstorm this and one suggestion that everyone agreed on was that a bell should be tied around the neck of the cat so that whenever she came around the mice would hear her and hide. There was much relief and high fiving in the group at this amazing suggestion until a poor mouse (much like the ‘haterz’ on CZ) from the back of the room said “guys, agree that this is a phenomenal idea, but i have one question “

All the mice turned to this impertinent mouse: “yes?”

Mouse: “who is going to tie the bell around the neck of the cat?”

Silence (of course on CZ such questions are followed by : find another team or what do you know i used to coach Peewee football etc etc)

thats awesome

 

[OGSixshooter]

This "management by committee" concept is one of the top reasons for the last 30 years of mediocrity. It's been my experience that committees breed mediocrity.

The problem with a committee is, everybody is too safe from having to deal with individual responsibility. It's too easy to just go with a committee's majority opinion because there is more safety in numbers if things go south.

The other problem is, why bother trying to excel? Working on a committee puts less emphasis on individual achievement and the recognition that it deserves.

As such, committees are generally composed of "clusters", small groups of participants that want to do just enough to stick around. They all naturally gather in the middle or neutral area of an issue and cluster. Again, safety in numbers.

The Cowboys need innovative leadership. They need someone to step forward with the ability to sell a new concept.

Instead of being the late copycat to the "trend du jour", someone needs to offer something new, something different, something "cutting -edge".

That will never originate from a committee. If Jerry doesn't want to recognize this then we can only hope that any future management will use the last 30-years as the potential results of continuing to run a football team like some corporate entity.

Sometimes I wonder how many times someone made an effort to convince Jerry Jones. face-to-face, that the right thing to do for the team and their fans is to put the team into the hands of the those that offer the best potential for success.

How many times? Often? Never?

The whole framework is just a way to make Jerry feel apart and then let him have the last word. The "committee" exists to prop up Jerry.

 

[ghst187]

Rarely see a billionaire so insecure and desperate for other people’s approval (just not fans)….guess deep down he knows he’s only been lucky in life rather than good

 

[rags747]

I'm surprised the NFL doesn't have a required team structure template or a more defined one at least that would prevent owners from wearing too many hats, that might help prevent more teams from becoming as much of the clown show the Cowboys have become. IMO

You can’t be serious.

 

[Jarv]

You'll get 10 more years of Jerry and his soaked Depends, followed by 20 more years of his idiot son Fredo, and you'll LIKE IT.

Now drop and give me 20 (shots) and you'll feel better.

Fredo did not live to a ripe old age.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Look,

I can tell you right now you're wrong, This is a corporation anybody who sees the NFL as some mom and pop sport, you know like pickleball or flag football, you're looking at this very oddly.

All corporations by definition are management by committee, there's layers of management from the top down from your CEO to everyone below them, and yes they answer to a board ,,lots of people get in meetings and go over the pros and cons and things that need to be fixed, and they actually basically vote on it.

It isn't like a political vote but it's definitely done by committee there is no such thing as a corporation without a committee, that would be a mom and pop store, that would be a couple of people who own this family business typically a little store on the corner a gas station or something like that,

that would not be management by committee.

You know the Dallas Cowboys have 1200 employees,

when you count everyone from the management the players the trainers the entire staff from top to bottom 1200, they are literally set up just like a corporation, and they all make decisions and yes there's somebody sitting at the top that approves those things or not.

I don't get it somebody below you says it's a family business, it'll never change, it is not a family business, it has happened to be owned by a family who will probably pass it down to other family members, but that does not make it a family business ,it is a corporation, and I'm not sure where 1200 employees fit in the size of a corporation, but it's a pretty big one..

its 1200 employee, 15B corporation... I don't know any of mom and pop places that have that many employees and worth that much money..


He just come out and say what you need to say Everyone keeps hiding the way they try to come on here and bash the Jones family because they don't have A GM, that seems separate, and that has to answer to anyone, and can never fire themselves, and blah blah blah..

we've heard all that already ,

That is the only difference from the Cowboys team to a lot of other teams that are still owned by family members that have been passed out for generations like the Steelers and the Giants Even the Browns the Raiders still own mostly by the Davis' Who by the way went and got outside help right tom Brady tells him to hire an entire new coaching staff that completely fails the draft not that great you shouldn't have picked that running back that high when you had that big of holes and it failed it failed doing it that way as well yes they held the coaching staff accountable but did they hire Tom Brady do a job he didn't do it right cost him 60 million now they're going to let him do it again how's that that different from the Cowboys?

yes, the Irsay family......

I mean the daughter of the owner who just passed away of the Indianapolis Colts handed it down to his daughter isn't that something it's still not a family business, but she's running around on the sidelines at practice, and games with a headset and a play call sheet, it doesn't even matter they have a separate GM.. Looks like the owner is still very involved...


Anybody who gets that idea around that you think that the committee thing is somehow the opposite of what other teams do is insane they literally is always a chain of management and a very large one lots of layers and they all have part in the decisions.

Park some have bigger roles and key roles and smaller roles, but it is a committee by definition of corporation is set up by a committee of decision makers.


Yeah and it's a nice veiled attempt at banging on Jerry for not hiring a separate GM, and letting some of his control go and seeing how that works versus what it's set up now, but this is not a mom and pop shop, this is not a family business, any more than many other NFL teams or sports ownership teams there's lots of families that own these things for generations..

They all are pretty much set up the same except for Jerry decided to stay the GM in title,

but that doesn't mean he doesn't have others that are doing GM duties and I get it that's what you're trying to insinuate that that's the wrong way to do it even though it's pretty much the same outside of Jerry being owner and GM that's it that's the only thing that's different it's set up pretty much the same..

you Want someone more innovative, I get that,

Just say it shorter like that have another thread that hates Jerry being the GM and thinks that he needs to step down hire a football guy and let them take the reins for a while and see how it works..

but those in here that keep acting like this is some small time small fry mom and pop corner restaurant is insane they actually blind to the actual realities of how many employees and layers of management that Jerry and Steven lean on for advice They're professionals at their jobs people who handle the financing and the contracts yes the cap they have experts at every level That work with them...

You started a paragraph with “Just say it shorter”. You have to appreciate the irony.

 

[john van brocklin]

This "management by committee" concept is one of the top reasons for the last 30 years of mediocrity. It's been my experience that committees breed mediocrity.

The problem with a committee is, everybody is too safe from having to deal with individual responsibility. It's too easy to just go with a committee's majority opinion because there is more safety in numbers if things go south.

The other problem is, why bother trying to excel? Working on a committee puts less emphasis on individual achievement and the recognition that it deserves.

As such, committees are generally composed of "clusters", small groups of participants that want to do just enough to stick around. They all naturally gather in the middle or neutral area of an issue and cluster. Again, safety in numbers.

The Cowboys need innovative leadership. They need someone to step forward with the ability to sell a new concept.

Instead of being the late copycat to the "trend du jour", someone needs to offer something new, something different, something "cutting -edge".

That will never originate from a committee. If Jerry doesn't want to recognize this then we can only hope that any future management will use the last 30-years as the potential results of continuing to run a football team like some corporate entity.

Sometimes I wonder how many times someone made an effort to convince Jerry Jones. face-to-face, that the right thing to do for the team and their fans is to put the team into the hands of the those that offer the best potential for success.

How many times? Often? Never?

You hit the nail on the head when you said the last 30 years have been a cluster.

 

[john van brocklin]

Jerry and Stephen will have to die or sell the team first

Sadly, this is most likely the truth.
My other thoughts are that their mismanagement of the team is eventually going to show up on the field.
Them lucking into Romo and Dak for next to nothing in assetts has covered up a lot of front office incompetence.
Once Dak ages out, this team is gonna have a lot of poor seasons, kinda like the Campo years.
That might bring about change,
Especially if Jerry is gone.

 

[Floatyworm]

This "management by committee" concept is one of the top reasons for the last 30 years of mediocrity. It's been my experience that committees breed mediocrity.

The problem with a committee is, everybody is too safe from having to deal with individual responsibility. It's too easy to just go with a committee's majority opinion because there is more safety in numbers if things go south.

The other problem is, why bother trying to excel? Working on a committee puts less emphasis on individual achievement and the recognition that it deserves.

As such, committees are generally composed of "clusters", small groups of participants that want to do just enough to stick around. They all naturally gather in the middle or neutral area of an issue and cluster. Again, safety in numbers.

The Cowboys need innovative leadership. They need someone to step forward with the ability to sell a new concept.

Instead of being the late copycat to the "trend du jour", someone needs to offer something new, something different, something "cutting -edge".

That will never originate from a committee. If Jerry doesn't want to recognize this then we can only hope that any future management will use the last 30-years as the potential results of continuing to run a football team like some corporate entity.

Sometimes I wonder how many times someone made an effort to convince Jerry Jones. face-to-face, that the right thing to do for the team and their fans is to put the team into the hands of the those that offer the best potential for success.

How many times? Often? Never?

The one common denominator in the 30 year drought....Never spending a #1 pick on a QB. That one fact alone is why we are where we are. To think you would go 30 years without investing a top pick in the most important position.....is honestly unfathomable. That shows a lack of vision....an unwillingness to pay the price necessary to get a franchise leader. You get what you pay for. For decades now.....You have had Jerry Jones...and this front office try and sell Quincy Carter...Tony Romo....Dak Prescott....as franchise saviors. Look @ all the successful teams in the playoffs...they have all spent a top pick on a QB. Until we get serious...and find that guy...we will continue to flounder in mediocrity.

 

[plasticman]

The one common denominator in the 30 year drought....Never spending a #1 pick on a QB. That one fact alone is why we are where we are. To think you would go 30 years without investing a top pick in the most important position.....is honestly unfathomable. That shows a lack of vision....an unwillingness to pay the price necessary to get a franchise leader. You get what you pay for. For decades now.....You have had Jerry Jones...and this front office try and sell Quincy Carter...Tony Romo....Dak Prescott....as franchise saviors. Look @ all the successful teams in the playoffs...they have all spent a top pick on a QB. Until we get serious...and find that guy...we will continue to flounder in mediocrity.

Even if the Cowboys drafted a QB #1 overall, the other common denominator in the 30 year drought would screw it up.

We are discussing the "GM" who was seriously disappointed that others talked him out of drafting Johnny Manziel.

We are talking about the guy that had to settle for Dak in the 4th round because he couldn't engineer the trade to get Paxton Lynch in the 1st round that year. As you may recall, Lynch's career lasted two seasons.

The Cowboys haven't reached the point where they have to worry about the lack of talent on the team. They need to resolve the lack of talent in their front office first or it won't matter how much talent this team or coaching staff might have.

 

[DallasEast]

Even if the Cowboys drafted a QB #1 overall, the other common denominator in the 30 year drought would screw it up.

We are discussing the "GM" who was seriously disappointed that others talked him out of drafting Johnny Manziel.

We are talking about the guy that had to settle for Dak in the 4th round because he couldn't engineer the trade to get Paxton Lynch in the 1st round that year. As you may recall, Lynch's career lasted two seasons.

The Cowboys haven't reached the point where they have to worry about the lack of talent on the team. They need to resolve the lack of talent in their front office first or it won't matter how much talent this team or coaching staff might have.

May I add we are having a conversation concerning someone, who acquired veteran quarterback Tony Banks in the offseason to mentor rookie Quincy Carter, and promptly waived Banks before the regular season began.

 

[Tabascocat]

You will get no such thing and have to like it!

 

[cityochamps]

You can’t be serious.

And why not, in order to ensure to maintain a stable and effective system, I don't think the NFL as an organization wants to see any team turn into and remain a complete failure from what was once one of the finest ran organizations in all of football. At some point you would think they could make some subtle changes that would help struggling organizations who may end up being ran operationally by some egotistical, drunken, senile fool of an owner. I mean the sun don't shine on the same dog's *** every day but, we ain't seen a ray of light for about 30 years now.

 

[rags747]

And why not, in order to ensure to maintain a stable and effective system, I don't think the NFL as an organization wants to see any team turn into and remain a complete failure from what was once one of the finest ran organizations in all of football. At some point you would think they could make some subtle changes that would help struggling organizations who may end up being ran operationally by some egotistical, drunken, senile fool of an owner. I mean the sun don't shine on the same dog's *** every day but, we ain't seen a ray of light for about 30 years now.

League ain’t doing squat with the Cowboys ownership structure. The Cowboys continue to have the highest viewership and attendance ratings bar none. League is about $$, not how many games you win.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I wish people would understand that this isn't a matter of Jerry one day realizing that his way isn't the best way to win as many football games as possible or field the best team possible. Jerry already knows that -- that's why he hired Bill Parcells when he needed to win more games to get his stadium funding passed.

The issue is that Jerry's goals aren't our goals. His goals are wealth, relevance, personal fame, and having fun. Those have been and are being satisfied, so nothing is going to change. He simply doesn't care about the same things you and I as fans care about. And he never will.

 

[Montanalo]

I haven't all of the replies, so maybe others have made similar observations:

I don't agree the Cowboys are a "management by committee" organization; at least, not as far as the football side of the business is concerned.

Jerry Jones is the CEO, chief decision maker and ultimate arbitrator. Sure, he gets input from others, but make no mistake, Jerry rules by fiat.