Marinelli's theory is interesting

[Parcells4Life]

The difference between D Ware in his prime and your average starting DE is that all game Ware would bring it while your average DE only showed up a few times but the rest of the game was neutralized

It seems Marinellis theory is that if we can't have a superstar on the DL to dominate 60 snaps a game, then get 3 guys who can dominate for 10-20 snaps a game.

This appears to be a great idea! However what worries me is that you are reliant on carrying 8-10 DL on gameday which can leave you short at other positions. Crawford can play two positions but he's still going to reach a limit on when he's past his peak. The hard part for the staff is to learn each players snap count in 3.5 months.

Then also wonder if the same is true for the LBs and CBs. We only have so many roster spots available on gameday. I guess theory it'd be great to go with 7 OL, 6 LB, 9 DL, 2 QB, 1 K, 1 P, 1 DS, 3 TE, 5 WR, 3 RB, 1 FB, 4 CB, 3 S. Is 46 the number allowed to carry?

 

[TonyRomo17]

The difference between D Ware in his prime and your average starting DE is that all game Ware would bring it while your average DE only showed up a few times but the rest of the game was neutralized

It seems Marinellis theory is that if we can't have a superstar on the DL to dominate 60 snaps a game, then get 3 guys who can dominate for 10-20 snaps a game.

This appears to be a great idea! However what worries me is that you are reliant on carrying 8-10 DL on gameday which can leave you short at other positions. Crawford can play two positions but he's still going to reach a limit on when he's past his peak. The hard part for the staff is to learn each players snap count in 3.5 months.

Then also wonder if the same is true for the LBs and CBs. We only have so many roster spots available on gameday. I guess theory it'd be great to go with 7 OL, 6 LB, 9 DL, 2 QB, 1 K, 1 P, 1 DS, 3 TE, 5 WR, 3 RB, 1 FB, 4 CB, 3 S. Is 46 the number allowed to carry?

thats what seattle does, thats why they get pressure almost all the game even though they dont have a "superstar" in their DL

 

[XxTDxX]

I am OK with going heavier at DL.. We had way too many TE and OL last year on the 53. Take 3 or 4TE instead of last years 5 and take 8 OL instead of last years 10. Opens up spots

Edit: You also don't need 6 LBs active on game day

 

[ElGatoGrande]

That sounds a like what Jimmy and Dave Wannstedt did in the 90s,,, have a deep DL rotation and use them.

 

[Cebrin]

I've been saying to my friends that it looks as though we are taking a Seahawks approach. Fresh legs almost every down. Not a bad idea at all. Really, considering it will take at least 1 to 2 more years to stack the defense, it's a smart move. Use what you have and play your players to their strengths.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I've been saying to my friends that it looks as though we are taking a Seahawks approach. Fresh legs almost every down. Not a bad idea at all. Really, considering it will take at least 1 to 2 more years to stack the defense, it's a smart move. Use what you have and play your players to their strengths.

Its not the Seahawks approach, its the Cowboys of 90s. We lost of way on in defensive philosophy and this has been the outcome. Now its have a rotating dline similar to what the Seahawks are doing which was taken from the 90s Cowboys.

 

[Gameover]

I don't recall Ware bringing it all game...

 

[Cebrin]

I don't recall Ware bringing it all game...

Not when we starter running a 4-3. He just wasn't cut out for that scheme.

 

[Hoofbite]

thats what seattle does, thats why they get pressure almost all the game even though they dont have a "superstar" in their DL

Yeah sure. Clemons and Avril are basically nobodies.

 

[Cebrin]

Yeah sure. Clemons and Avril are basically nobodies.

Clemons had 4 sacks, 58 in his career (11 yrs) , Avril had 8 (The better of the two), 47.5 in his career (7yrs). To compare, Demarcus Ware had 99 in his first 7 seasons...... I wouldn't call either of them "superstars" myself.

 

[jobberone]

thats what seattle does, thats why they get pressure almost all the game even though they dont have a "superstar" in their DL

They have a pretty good line esp at tackle.

But I support the pressure idea. You just have to get to the QB on occasion either hurry, hit or sack. Relentless pressure will wear on the OL and puts pressure on the QB who if he isn't patient enough will eventually make a mistake. If you add in a star or two then you are golden.

 

[OhSnap]

Whatever it takes to keep em off balance.

 

[visionary]

thats what seattle does, thats why they get pressure almost all the game even though they dont have a "superstar" in their DL

In this love fest with marinelli I do want to point out that not one of out DL would be starting in Seattle

When Seattle brings "waves of DL " they don't mean Hayden and selvie
They rotate talented guys

 

[Cumart21]

Correct. The guys you're rotating need to have some talent to be effective. We'll see an improvement this year but just how much remains to be seen.

 

[Redball Express]

The difference between D Ware in his prime and your average starting DE is that all game Ware would bring it while your average DE only showed up a few times but the rest of the game was neutralized

It seems Marinellis theory is that if we can't have a superstar on the DL to dominate 60 snaps a game, then get 3 guys who can dominate for 10-20 snaps a game.

This appears to be a great idea! However what worries me is that you are reliant on carrying 8-10 DL on gameday which can leave you short at other positions. Crawford can play two positions but he's still going to reach a limit on when he's past his peak. The hard part for the staff is to learn each players snap count in 3.5 months.

Then also wonder if the same is true for the LBs and CBs. We only have so many roster spots available on gameday. I guess theory it'd be great to go with 7 OL, 6 LB, 9 DL, 2 QB, 1 K, 1 P, 1 DS, 3 TE, 5 WR, 3 RB, 1 FB, 4 CB, 3 S. Is 46 the number allowed to carry?

Yes.

And we can start with letting Orton go and keep an extra DL.

This guys career is over.

let him join the Brian Waters Club of Irrelevance..

 

[starfrombirth]

In this love fest with marinelli I do want to point out that not one of out DL would be starting in Seattle

When Seattle brings "waves of DL " they don't mean Hayden and selvie
They rotate talented guys

I agree and disagree... I think the Selvie of last year would be part of that wave. I hope and believe that some of the people we drafted and that have come back from injury would be part of that wave: Melton, Crawford, Lawrence and to a lesser extent Bass. I do have hope that some of our late rnd picks will also be a viable part, admittedly unproven: Garden, Bishop, and Coleman. The last 3 very well might not be but we have some pieces that definately would be.

 

[Bungarian]

It is hard to rotate DL when you don't even have decent starters.

 

[starfrombirth]

Yes.

And we can start with letting Orton go and keep an extra DL.

This guys career is over.

let him join the Brian Waters Club of Irrelevance..

You don't let him go and eat all that dead money and cap space so he can go and sign with another team. There is a list you put him on: Non-football related or some such list and let his but grow old without costing us money. That way he doesn't get the best of both worlds at our expense.

 

[Bungarian]

You don't let him go and eat all that dead money and cap space so he can go and sign with another team. There is a list you put him on: Non-football related or some such list and let his but grow old without costing us money. That way he doesn't get the best of both worlds at our expense.

Would the cowboys just go with two QB if Orton is gone or would the pickup another one?

 

[Bullflop]

The same system Marinelli espouses was utilized to great advantage throughout the Johnson and Wannstedt era. It was highly successful back then and would surely be again. In fact, it would be especially so now, with the NFL's ever-increasing reliance upon the passing game.