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Mark Schlereth agrees with Larry Fedora's comments and expresses his feelings about football's CTE

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Zekeats, Jul 19, 2018.

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  1. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member

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    Do we think there isn't one player in the NFL not aware of the inherent dangers of the game? They challenged those dangers just to get to the NFL.

    The real problem that was is not any longer, sending players back in with their "bells rung". This concussion protocol seems pretty accurate as they're watching the hits that might cause a concussion and addressing that immediately. The contact on the lines is most difficult to ascertain because when aren't those guys making some helmet contact in the middle of those lines?

    This lawsuit isn't about concussions or CTE, it is about what did the league know about recurring concussions, and the danger seems to be right after one concussion, that they kept from the players and allowed, if not sent, them back into the game. There are instances, and Aikman had one, where players have no recollection of going back in the game, total blackout of that time. How many times have we seen players get knocked goofy and have to be restrained from going back in?

    They don't need waivers, they all know. They know the risks and they know teammates with concussions, they see it first hand and still choose to play the game. Let them, as long as they've got medical people to make the call they're as protected as they're going to get.
     
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  2. CouchCoach

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    Yep, I was really surprised when I saw Tony with that problem. He must have been getting his "bell rung" and they were letting him back in with the old "how many fingers do you see"? But he was not a contact runner.
     
  3. erod

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    There could be so many factors other than football. That's the part that these studies don't seem to take into account whatsoever.
     
  4. Direwolf63

    Direwolf63 RXP

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    Nobody is short changing the players for all the work it took for them to get to the NFL. Everybody knows it takes tons of work.

    But if there is no NFL, many of them are still in the slums. Quite simple really.

    Many of these kids that were in desperate situations saw the NFL as their way out and worked like heck to get there. Good for them. Take that away and many of them would still be in the same place.

    Ask Micheal Irvin. He has stated many times that he would be dead if it wasn't for the NFL.
     
  5. CouchCoach

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    But just the nature of the sport invites head contact so that's the easy one. And they do have the case studies to go by on the pattern of behavior change like Webster and Duerson.

    I wonder if they will identify the key risk factors and why some players seem more susceptible? Then they can check for that and inform the players that might be more susceptible for CTE but for now, it's all post mortem exams.

    Do we need docs to tell us that bouncing our brains off our skulls is not good for us?
     
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  6. CouchCoach

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    Not just them, they pulled their families out along with them. For a lot of these guys, this is their only hope. I'll see an interview with a player and it's pretty obvious he didn't graduate with honors, if he graduated, but this is the equalizer for them. They weren't born smart or to well off parents, a lot have single Moms and siblings they help with but they can do something better than 99% of all people and they get paid really well to do that. And we pay really good money to be entertained by them.

    I put myself in the position of one of these guys and weigh getting my family out of that and having a life like I see on TV all the time vs the risk and it's no contest. I think some of these players would go ahead if they knew they were going to end up with CTE. The end result justifies it.
     
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  7. erod

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    It's so relative to each person.

    My daughter headed 10,000 balls in her soccer career. Many off of 50-yard punts or rocket crosses. Ever so often, it would hit her funny, and she'd flinch with a little pain. But nary a concussion ever. Same for most of her teammates.

    Meanwhile, she had a teammate who headed a soft ball coming straight down in practice, and it put her in a hospital for two weeks. Didn't play for two months. Had to quit the game after another one shortly after on another innocuous ball with little velocity on it.

    Then, with football players, you have to factor in all the extracurricular activity. Performance enhancing drugs. Cocaine. Pain killers. Who knows what else.

    No doubt the game takes its toll, and brains can be damaged by it. Of course, but there is a MUCH larger picture here, and "science" only wants to look at one aspect of it.
     
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  8. Direwolf63

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    Agreed.

    Good point regarding the players not only get themselves out of bad situations, but their families as well.
     
  9. Nightman

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    Does it always cause it or just randomly????

    How many cigarettes does it take??? For how long???

    I am sure you can give specific numbers since the science is settled.......proceed
     
  10. Nightman

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    Exactly........ thanks for admitting it
     
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  11. DCBoysfan

    DCBoysfan Hardwork and Dedication Zone Supporter

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    So players can suffer long term effects from football like bad knees, shoulders, back etc. but the though of the brain, which can get rattle quite a bit during the game is unlikely?

    Just common sense tells me it is very likely. The brain can be damaged from football just like any other body part.
     
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  12. AbeBeta

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    Yeah, actually that's how stereotypes persist. You see an occasional case that fits your stereotype and it confirms it for you. Never mind that the vast majority do not fit that preconceived notion.
     
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  13. AbeBeta

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    Don't bother. This board is anti science. Bunch of folks who got PhDs at the University of Google. Nevermind what actual scientific consensus is
     
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  14. visionary

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    You're just showing your ignorance, buddy
     
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Admin

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    Yet again this thread will be closed because some people cannot learn to leave politics out of things. Bringing up global warming science as a political agenda among science.

    STOP IT. AND DO NOT START ANOTHER THREAD ON THIS ISSUE.
     
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