Maybe Romo can be fully appreciated now

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True but if I remember correctly, our defense was playing pretty decent at the beginning of the game and our offense was pretty slow.

Now had it been a Romo lead offense at the time with the way our D started off, we would have probably put up some points and force GB to play catch up.

Offense definitely got off to a slow start, but the defense was atrocious from the get go. Allowed TD drives on each of Green Bay's first 3 drives of the game to put us in a 3 score hole early.

Perhaps the Romo led offense scores a few more points early, but it's likely the result is the same (heartbreaking loss with Rodgers on the field last) considering the remarkable comeback staged.
 

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Hopefully, all of those who believed that Romo was part of the problem with Dallas not getting over the hump year after year can now see that he was not.

Yes, he had his moments where he failed and his bad games, but that's what happens when quarterbacks are constantly put into a position where they can't make any mistakes.

If Aaron Rodgers had been our quarterback Sunday, I guarantee that all we would be talking about is how his overthrow on the two-point attempt had cost us the game. That's life for a quarterback in Dallas, especially under Garrett. This team failed Romo over and over again and messed up what should have been a Hall-of-Fame career. Now, it's doing the same to Dak, who has played well enough for the team to be 4-1 right now if the defense was any good.

Over and over again, we've seen our quarterbacks make some fantastic plays to give this team a chance and over and over again, it hasn't been enough because this front office has failed them over and over again.
Just don't make Dak the holder and we'll be OK. LOL, sorry!
 

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This is a little fictitious I'f I may say so and I apologize but I dont know of any who blamed Romo.
His early years were frustrating and heady but we all eventually saw him for what he was. MO

If you don't believe there were many on here who believed (and still believe) that Romo was part of the problem, then there are multiple posters and threads you must have avoided. For many, it was always Romo wasn't good enough and we need to get rid of him. Romo was always good enough, but the team wasn't.

I went back last year and watched his early years as the starters and there were definitely throws he missed and mistakes that he made that he didn't near the end of his career, but even those weren't the reason the team failed. There were opportunities there, but the team around him simply was not good enough. Contrary to some's belief, a quarterback cannot put the team on his back and carry it to the Super Bowl, the team also has to have others step up in order to get there. I think what we've seen the past two games with Dak clearly demonstrates this for those who were blinded to exactly how good Romo was.
 

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Just don't make Dak the holder and we'll be OK. LOL, sorry!

I'm still of the mind-set that even if he had put down a perfect hold on that slick ball (which led to a rule change), the defense wouldn't have been able to protect the lead. Of course, it would have been nice to see if that's the case ... and it might have changed the idea that developed out of that that Romo was a choker.
 

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Serviceable olines are easier to build then a stout defense.

Think we went the wrong route. I see teams with great defenses rebuilding their olines quickly ....Philadelphia and Denver are some examples
 

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I know.

It's a great day to be grumpy.
Just messing' around a bit, Mike...but when I reflect back on when I became a fan of this team many years ago (it was the year we won our first SB against the Dolphins when NONE of my family were Dallas fans), I could walk around with my head held high knowing that this franchise was one of those all time greats. We were the Yankees/Celtics/Lakers/Canadiens/Edwin Moses/Muhammed Ali of the NFL...the most revered and reviled team in sports. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider remotely possible this stretch of prolonged ineptitude and punchline-worthy football follies to be something associated with "MY TEAM." You know what I'm saying? And now, here we are...and trust me, I am an unbelievably optimistic person. But I sit here and ponder the thought of this team never winning another SB in my lifetime, something that I never would have EVER even entertained as a notion...but here we are.

Maybe we'll rally in the second half of the season...maybe next year we'll fix the D and finally have a COMPLETE TEAM. But man...If you'd asked me after my first almost 25 years of being a fan of this team what the next 20-something years would have in store...I would have never predicted this stretch in even my worst nightmare...this sinusoidal good-bad-good-bad rollercoaster that we appear to be on. This is a Greek tragedy.
 
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Dak is playing just fine.

I do get a kick out of people complaining about the line play in any thread that includes Romo.
Other than 2014, this line is outstanding compared to what he mostly had his entire career. he would be thrilled to have had this group. Not to mention that Zeke is way better too than what we had.

Anyway, it's on the defense. Come one, they're already given up over 35 points in 3 different games and we're only 5 games in!

We had a good line during the 2007 season, but the Giants stunted and outquicked those lumbering linemen in the playoffs. Otherwise, I completely agree.
 

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I'm still of the mind-set that even if he had put down a perfect hold on that slick ball (which led to a rule change), the defense wouldn't have been able to protect the lead. Of course, it would have been nice to see if that's the case ... and it might have changed the idea that developed out of that that Romo was a choker.
That last part is spot on. Romo was great, but some people are unforgiving.
 

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If you don't believe there were many on here who believed (and still believe) that Romo was part of the problem, then there are multiple posters and threads you must have avoided. For many, it was always Romo wasn't good enough and we need to get rid of him. Romo was always good enough, but the team wasn't.

I went back last year and watched his early years as the starters and there were definitely throws he missed and mistakes that he made that he didn't near the end of his career, but even those weren't the reason the team failed. There were opportunities there, but the team around him simply was not good enough. Contrary to some's belief, a quarterback cannot put the team on his back and carry it to the Super Bowl, the team also has to have others step up in order to get there. I think what we've seen the past two games with Dak clearly demonstrates this for those who were blinded to exactly how good Romo was.
I'm more talking about his later years it was pretty evident to people how great Romo really was.
There are many skeletons in the Cowboy closets but not providing Romo with enough tools was
Jones biggest failure and he admitted as much.
 

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I'm more talking about his later years it was pretty evident to people how great Romo really was.
There are many skeletons in the Cowboy closets but not providing Romo with enough tools was
Jones biggest failure and he admitted as much.

I think the only time that fans were quiet about getting rid of Romo was during the 2014 season, then when we lost in the playoffs, they got back on the horse. They never understood that the Romo we saw during that season was pretty close to the same player we saw throughout his career. Yes, he tweaked his game over the years, but the primary difference is that we provided him with a running game (and better blocking) so he didn't have to carry the offense alone. Then the defense again failed him.
 

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If you don't believe there were many on here who believed (and still believe) that Romo was part of the problem, then there are multiple posters and threads you must have avoided. For many, it was always Romo wasn't good enough and we need to get rid of him. Romo was always good enough, but the team wasn't.

I went back last year and watched his early years as the starters and there were definitely throws he missed and mistakes that he made that he didn't near the end of his career, but even those weren't the reason the team failed. There were opportunities there, but the team around him simply was not good enough. Contrary to some's belief, a quarterback cannot put the team on his back and carry it to the Super Bowl, the team also has to have others step up in order to get there. I think what we've seen the past two games with Dak clearly demonstrates this for those who were blinded to exactly how good Romo was.

Romo's best year was when they limited him on passes because Murray could carry the rock.That is not to say he did not carry the team in games in other years. But the ones where he threw crucial picks late in the game, which turned the tide - and there were more than a few - had more to do with him trying to do to much. In some regard I agree, the team around him was too poor to overcome the other team. And that "could" have some effect on Romo turning games into sandlot contests.

To me Romo was a poor man's Favre. And with the great numbers he put up, you also got the mistakes because of risk - too much.

I appreciated Romo during his tenure in Dallas. I tire of the fawning over him like he did something spectacular.
 

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Just messing' around a bit, Mike...but when I reflect back on when I became a fan of this team many years ago (it was the year we won our first SB against the Dolphins when NONE of my family were Dallas fans), I could walk around with my head held high knowing that this franchise was one of those all time greats. We were the Yankees/Celtics/Lakers/Canadiens/Edwin Moses of the NFL...the most revered and reviled team in sports. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider remotely possible this stretch of prolonged ineptitude and punchline-worthy football follies to be something associated with "MY TEAM." You know what I'm saying? And now, here we are...and trust me, I am an unbelievably optimistic person. But I sit here and ponder the thought of this team never winning another SB in my lifetime, something that I never would have EVER even entertained as a notion...but here we are.

Maybe we'll rally in the second half of the season...maybe next year we'll fix the D and finally have a COMPLETE TEAM. But man...If you'd asked me after my first almost 25 years of being a fan of this team what the next 20-something years would have in store...I would have never predicted this stretch in even my worst nightmare...this sinusoidal good-bad-good-bad rollercoaster that we appear to be on. This is a Greek tragedy.

I do not think this team is that far away. A lack of experience in the secondary along with still missing a couple important defensive cogs hold it back.

And certainly many posted that the secondary was probably going to suffer over the first part of the season.
 

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Hopefully, all of those who believed that Romo was part of the problem with Dallas not getting over the hump year after year can now see that he was not.

Yes, he had his moments where he failed and his bad games, but that's what happens when quarterbacks are constantly put into a position where they can't make any mistakes.

If Aaron Rodgers had been our quarterback Sunday, I guarantee that all we would be talking about is how his overthrow on the two-point attempt had cost us the game. That's life for a quarterback in Dallas, especially under Garrett. This team failed Romo over and over again and messed up what should have been a Hall-of-Fame career. Now, it's doing the same to Dak, who has played well enough for the team to be 4-1 right now if the defense was any good.

Over and over again, we've seen our quarterbacks make some fantastic plays to give this team a chance and over and over again, it hasn't been enough because this front office has failed them over and over again.
This had nothing to do with romo. This was all on defense. Final drive with 10 to go. They use 9 minutes. Score and get lead. Defense needs to make one play. One play. They choked.
 

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I'm always in when it comes to giving Tony Romo more credit. He was somehow inexplicably under-appreciated in Dallas, which always boggles me.

I do not think this team is that far away. A lack of experience in the secondary along with still missing a couple important defensive cogs hold it back.

And certainly many posted that the secondary was probably going to suffer over the first part of the season.

This was our best outing yet, fwiw. But we still got beat by a better QB.

The defense has been both a work in progress, and not good enough. The tackling has been poor most of the first 5 weeks, which isn't excusable. And we can't stop the run, which we did well last year. And Jaylon Smith can't play (yet?), but that's something that's about to become a non-issue.

The secondary, you can see, is coming along, though. And it'll get better this season yet. I hope the other stuff gets fixed.
 

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Romo's best year was when they limited him on passes because Murray could carry the rock.That is not to say he did not carry the team in games in other years. But the ones where he threw crucial picks late in the game, which turned the tide - and there were more than a few - had more to do with him trying to do to much. In some regard I agree, the team around him was too poor to overcome the other team. And that "could" have some effect on Romo turning games into sandlot contests.

To me Romo was a poor man's Favre. And with the great numbers he put up, you also got the mistakes because of risk - too much.

I appreciated Romo during his tenure in Dallas. I tire of the fawning over him like he did something spectacular.
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Yep no doubt Romo's career was wasted here but I just never understood people forgetting all those mistakes. I do think that he tried to do too much sometimes because of the incompetence of some of the other players and if we had a solid running game earlier that might have made a difference. I don't like reflecting on Tony's era too much because all I see was he was wasted here. You have a top 10 QB you should get more than 2 playoff wins.
 

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I agree with Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman.

Tony Romo is the greatest quarterback to ever play here.

Jerry Jones completely blew the opportunity during that era with embarrassing drafts and clueless personnel decisions.
 

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I don't see Dak leaving to go to another team when it's time for him to get a massive contract. He grew up being a Cowboys fan, and despite all the team's shortcomings on defense playing QB for the Cowboys is still the most prized position in all of professional sports. I also can't see him ever quitting on the team. He definitely deserves a better fate than he's currently getting though.
 

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Dak is our QB. Why is Tony even in the conversation?
 

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We had a good line during the 2007 season, but the Giants stunted and outquicked those lumbering linemen in the playoffs. Otherwise, I completely agree.
I agree. 2007 was maybe the best all-around team we've had since the 90's. They had flaws but at least there wasn't a glaring weakness anywhere.
They were getting banged up (line, Barber, and TO) and losing momentum down the stretch that year....one reason why they were told to rest for one of the 2 weeks they had off before the Giants.
Oh well, Giants got healthy, got on a huge defensive roll, won, and went on to run the table.
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