Mayock's updated position rankings

[fanfromvirginia]

Poe will undoubtedly go top 20.

Even well-trained guys 350+ seldom look great on tape versus 250 pound guys. They don't have the motor or stamina to go all out for an entire game and get double-teamed to prevent their biggest advantage.

Vince Wilfolk is the last really big guy I can think of who put up good stats. And he was a freak playing with other NFL defensive talent that couldn't consistently get double-teamed.

NFL teams have to make a decision on Poe and will be a tough one for even experienced NFL scouts. Fans really should just shut up about the guy because we are clueless. Accurately analyzing and projecting 350 pound guys is a painfully rare skillset.

I can almost assure you the guy rated highest in this draft class for Bill Parcells would be Dontari Poe. BP uses the 'rare human theory' and favors big guys with even a modicum of athleticism over everything.

I betcha Ryan loves Poe. Besides salivating over the idea of moving him up and down the line Ryan no doubt views himself (rightly or wrongly) as a world class mentor, which Poe by most accounts is going to need.

 

[jterrell]

The same BP who wanted to draft Marcus Spear at 11 instead of Ware and picked Al Johnson, Peterman and loser OL that have set our OL back 5 yrs? Same old BP?
Bill is an excellent coach when he was younger but I am not certain he's the authority as a talent evaluator.

Not at all arguing he is correct merely noting their will be NFL minds who rate Poe highly after that line of thinking.

I can't accurately grade Poe and don't think anyone on this board can. Not based on what we have seen thus far. He was clearly a dominant and rare athlete at the combine but also had marginal game impact for Memphis that basically comprised of eating double-teams.

 

[bpfred]

The same BP who wanted to draft Marcus Spear at 11 instead of Ware and picked Al Johnson, Peterman and loser OL that have set our OL back 5 yrs? Same old BP?
Bill is an excellent coach when he was younger but I am not certain he's the authority as a talent evaluator.

Spears has tons of talent, and has been a huge underachiever-something that never really gets mentioned on this board. Had Parcells been his head coach, I'm not at all sure he would have achieved at the level he has...

Al Johnson was solid until microfracture surgery. He was never the same after. Serious knee injuries are hard to predict, particularly in people that don't have a history of having them.

How many years has Peterman started in Detroit?

Yeah, same old BP. I don't agree with all the crap that gets heaped on BP on this board. The dude was old, arrogant, condescending, and very possibly the best coach/team builder this league has ever seen. His health was giving out, otherwise, IMO, he would have had an excellent chance to get his Superbowl ring in Dallas. And I am certain: he WAS a great talent evaluator.

 

[btcutter]

and of course you ignore all the others- like 3 times as many- that he hit on over the years. Now with Dallas I think that it takes time to get a scouting staff going in the right direction. BP reorganized that as one of the first things he did here; but that takes a few years to bear fruit.

And frankly just how good were the boys doing picking ANYONE before BP got here?

Boys was awful when Jones was in charge with pseudo figurehead headcoaches. Boys was pretty good when the two JJ's were TOGETHER.

I am just pointing out that BP merely brought the Cowboys back up to probably the NFL average and it was because this team was in such disarray before he got here.

Again, BP was a great coach but looking at the day he actually won championships someone else was running the front office and draft.