McFadden believes his best is yet to come

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[qoute="Texas_Pete, post: 6026526, member: 20169"]I'm trying to temper my enthusiasm. His OL was putrid at best. No true weapons around him. He went against 8 in the box (again, no weapons around him to make the defense honest). He got hit behind the LOS a lot. Yet he still broke runs like that... he's 27, in his prime, wants to be here, has incentives to ball out, might be his last shot in the NFCL, etc etc - I expect him to bring it to be honest.

The potential is definitely there for good things to happen if he stays healthy. I feel like we said the same thing about Demarco this time last year. Feeling hopeful. I still think the other ball has yet to drop regarding the completion of the RB group for the upcoming year.
 

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The potential is definitely there for good things to happen if he stays healthy. I feel like we said the same thing about Demarco this time last year. Feeling hopeful. I still think the other ball has yet to drop regarding the completion of the RB group for the upcoming year.

I think the other ball is a RB in the draft and that's cool too.
 

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Without an OL , all RB's and QB's will look like garbage............

********. AP doesn't need good blocking. Murray does. McFadden does. That's the difference between all time greats and average/solid guys. All time greats don't need great blocking to move the chains, THEY get those extra yards out of each carry, THEY create those bigplays on their own. McFadden doesn't do that, neither does Murray. They create bigplays when there's a huge hole for them to run through. Anybody can do that. Running over a handful of defenders and outrunning DB's is not something they can do. But it's something AP does. Faking guys out of their shoes is something that AP does, Barry Sanders did. That's the difference.
 

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Bull****. AP doesn't need good blocking. Murray does. McFadden does. That's the difference between all time greats and average/solid guys. All time greats don't need great blocking to move the chains, THEY get those extra yards out of each carry, THEY create those bigplays on their own. McFadden doesn't do that, neither does Murray. They create bigplays when there's a huge hole for them to run through. Anybody can do that. Running over a handful of defenders and outrunning DB's is not something they can do. But it's something AP does. Faking guys out of their shoes is something that AP does, Barry Sanders did. That's the difference.

Yet imagine what Barry's numbers would of looked like with a decent OL. You keep mentioning some of the best ever at the position, but my statement holds true.

Without an OL, good RB's and QB's often look quite average. It happens every year to a good QB. Without an OL Manning doesn't sniff the 2nd round of the playoffs. Without an OL Brees doesn't sniff the playoffs. When Brady's OL was outmatched by Buffalo/NY/Miami/KC, Brady looked quite average.

Naming some of the greatest athletes in the history of the game doesn't disprove my statement. It isn't also fair to judge other RB's in comparison to AP or Barry in that manner. It is an uneducated statement. Just because AP is one the best RB's in the planet and doesn't need an OL must mean that no other RB needs a decent one to be productive? Oh please.

Don't waste your time responding to this because the stupidity of this topic is lowering my IQ.

Go out and make AP a protein shake and convince him to come here for 6M per year instead.
 

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Bull****. AP doesn't need good blocking. Murray does. McFadden does. That's the difference between all time greats and average/solid guys. All time greats don't need great blocking to move the chains, THEY get those extra yards out of each carry, THEY create those bigplays on their own. McFadden doesn't do that, neither does Murray. They create bigplays when there's a huge hole for them to run through. Anybody can do that. Running over a handful of defenders and outrunning DB's is not something they can do. But it's something AP does. Faking guys out of their shoes is something that AP does, Barry Sanders did. That's the difference.

Ok. Partial truth here.

Problem is... AP isn't going to do those superman things EVERY time.
 

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Ok. Partial truth here.

Problem is... AP isn't going to do those superman things EVERY time.

Nobody does those super human things EVERY time. Not Emmitt, Barry, Joe Montana, Dez, Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. But those guys make plays like that happen in almost every game. McFadden doesn't. He hasn't done **** in years. Let alone each time he touches the ball. The guy is pure garbage compared to those all time greats. He's a good receiver, that's about it. And yes, if you open up a huge hole in the middle and let him walk through untouched he will make a play. Congrats. You're so good you don't even trip over your own feet. Most infants struggle to do that, but you overcame the odds, Darren.
 

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Nobody does those super human things EVERY time. Not Emmitt, Barry, Joe Montana, Dez, Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. But those guys make plays like that happen in almost every game. McFadden doesn't. He hasn't done **** in years. Let alone each time he touches the ball. The guy is pure garbage compared to those all time greats. He's a good receiver, that's about it. And yes, if you open up a huge hole in the middle and let him walk through untouched he will make a play. Congrats. You're so good you don't even trip over your own feet. Most infants struggle to do that, but you overcame the odds, Darren.

Re: McFadden having great success here.....

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Nobody does those super human things EVERY time. Not Emmitt, Barry, Joe Montana, Dez, Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. But those guys make plays like that happen in almost every game. McFadden doesn't. He hasn't done **** in years. Let alone each time he touches the ball. The guy is pure garbage compared to those all time greats. He's a good receiver, that's about it. And yes, if you open up a huge hole in the middle and let him walk through untouched he will make a play. Congrats. You're so good you don't even trip over your own feet. Most infants struggle to do that, but you overcame the odds, Darren.

I'm not sure I agree with the actual content of this post yet, but I sure as hell love the delivery.
 

tyke1doe

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Bull****. AP doesn't need good blocking. Murray does. McFadden does. That's the difference between all time greats and average/solid guys. All time greats don't need great blocking to move the chains, THEY get those extra yards out of each carry, THEY create those bigplays on their own. McFadden doesn't do that, neither does Murray. They create bigplays when there's a huge hole for them to run through. Anybody can do that. Running over a handful of defenders and outrunning DB's is not something they can do. But it's something AP does. Faking guys out of their shoes is something that AP does, Barry Sanders did. That's the difference.

Unfortunately, those guys don't grow on trees. :(
 

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Not that I doubt DMC, but has there ever been a free agent pick-up who readily admits his best days are behind him?
 

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I remember when McFadden was on the draft board and we were dying to get this guy...
Oline will make all the difference. McFadden will be the real deal for us
 
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