McFadden Isn't Worth #1 Pick!

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McFadden isn't worth No. 1 pick


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The question is not whether Darren McFadden, college football's best player, will succeed in the NFL.

The question is whether he's worth a six-year, $60 million contract with $30 million guaranteed, because that's where negotiations for the first player selected will start.

The answer: No.

No running back is worth that kind of money.

And my mind won't change even if he rushes for 300 yards against Missouri in the AT&T Cotton Bowl.

That said, reports surfaced Friday that McFadden is driving a fancy SUV that could jeopardize his eligibility for Tuesday's game.

As disappointing as that would be, McFadden will play in the NFL next season – as he should, whether he carries the ball in the Cotton Bowl or not.

After all, he's done all he can do at the collegiate level except win the Heisman Trophy.

You can talk to me – as mama used to say – until you're blue in the face about how great the 6-2, 205-pound McFadden will be in the NFL, and it won't change my mind.

You can launch into a soliloquy about his speed, vision and toughness.

You can wax poetic about his receiving, blocking and intangibles, and it wouldn't matter.

You can have Frank Broyles lecture me for next few days about how McFadden is Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker rolled into one, and I wouldn't take him with the first pick.

There's simply too much risk to take any running back that high.

Running backs break down quickly. Most start declining when they hit 28, and by the time they're 30, many are working daily to improve their handicap.

McFadden has a tremendous upper body, but he's not thick in the lower body, which concerns some scouts because he takes a lot of hits.

There were questions about Adrian Peterson's durability, but any knowledgeable scout will tell you his lower body is thick like a tree trunk.

Still, he dropped to the seventh pick.

Running backs take more hits than any other player, and it's nearly impossible to predict who can withstand the punishment as well as who understands that taking punishment is part of the job description.

You also have to figure out who can handle the pressure of being the epicenter of the defensive game plan each week and who can handle the scrutiny when there are no holes.

Finally, you have to determine if a player's success in his college offense translates to success in an NFL offense.

For example, McFadden won't be taking many direct snaps as a quarterback in the NFL.

For every LaDainian Tomlinson, taken with the fifth pick, there's a Cedric Benson (fourth overall).

Miami's Ronnie Brown (second overall) and Tampa Bay's Cadillac Williams (fifth overall) have been OK, but has either player come anywhere close to meeting expectations?

Nope.

We all know Reggie Bush has been a flop since going second overall in 2006.

The bust rate is high for supposedly can't-miss running backs.

Too high.

It's basically a 50-50 roll of the dice whether a runner taken at the top of the draft plays to his potential.

You tell me someone who would risk $60 million on a 50-50 wager, and I'll show you a fool.

Besides, you don't have to take a running back with the top pick to win in today's NFL because it's a quarterback's game. All of the rules are set up to help the passing game – not the running game.

A glance at the rushing stats heading into the final week of the NFL season will show you five of the top 10 rushers will be sitting at home when the playoffs start.

New England, about to become the first team to go 16-0, uses the running game as an afterthought. Dallas and Green Bay, the NFC's top two teams, would certainly have to be classified as passing teams.

The Cowboys feature Marion Barber, a fourth-round pick, while Green Bay relies on Ryan Grant, who began his career two years ago as a member of the New York Giants' practice squad.

See, that's the other problem with spending a premium pick on a player like McFadden – no matter how good he is. These days, you can find running backs everywhere.

Willie Parker, second in the league in rushing, was an undrafted free agent. Brian Westbrook, fourth in the league, was a third-round pick. Don't forget that Tampa Bay's Earnest Graham, who needs 103 yards to surpass the 1,000-yard mark after injuries forced him into the lineup, was an undrafted free agent.

And with many of today's NFL teams going to two-back systems, do you really need to invest tens of millions in a player who's not carrying the ball 25 times per game?

Nope.

That's why as good as McFadden is, he shouldn't go in the top five.

After that, he'll be more worth the money.
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JJT is exactly right and I am sure there are other teams that feel the same way. Of course I would love for the Boys to get him but I definitely dont think we should Dikta the whole draft to get the number one pick and I especially dont think the Cowboys should commit so much money to him. He will immediately become the highest paid running back and we have too many other guys we could use the money on.
 

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Big Dakota;1864288 said:
Are ANY of these kids worth what the #1 guy gets now a days?

I doubt it! Alex Smith, Eli Manning and Jamarcus Russell certainly don't look worth it to me.
 

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This article was just dumb. Just because teams are moving away from RBs, doesn't necessarily mean it is a good idea.

And I'm not sure taking statistics from a guy like Taylor is a good idea...
 

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Eventually the NFL is going to have to do something to tone down the passing game somewhat. I mean if you can field 4 competent WRs you can pretty much destroy any defense currently.
 

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Derinyar;1864444 said:
Eventually the NFL is going to have to do something to tone down the passing game somewhat. I mean if you can field 4 competent WRs you can pretty much destroy any defense currently.


No, just as the NFL learned to deal with the Buddy Ryan D, they will have to learn to deal with this 5 wide O. Bill said as much the other day on ESPN. D's will catch up to this O in time.
 

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Big Dakota;1864448 said:
No, just as the NFL learned to deal with the Buddy Ryan D, they will have to learn to deal with this 5 wide O. Bill said as much the other day on ESPN. D's will catch up to this O in time.

The early 90s defenses faced similar styles of offense, including the run-and-shoot. These type of offenses were not effective especially come play-off time, simply because they allowed the CBs to play ball.

It isn't about adapting to a new style of play. The NFL took away from the defense what they never should have.
 

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khiladi;1864462 said:
The early 90s defenses faced similar styles of offense, including the run-and-shoot. These type of offenses were not effective especially come play-off time, simply because they allowed the CBs to play ball.

It isn't about adapting to a new style of play. The NFL took away from the defense what they never should have.


I guess we will have to live with the best teams every year scoring 30+ points. As Big Nate said the other day on Talkin Cowboys, "In my day it was the first team to 24 wins, now it's the first team to 30".
 

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Big Dakota;1864481 said:
I guess we will have to live with the best teams every year scoring 30+ points. As Big Nate said the other day on Talkin Cowboys, "In my day it was the first team to 24 wins, now it's the first team to 30".

CB is one of the, if not, hardest position to play as it is, and the NFL made it even harder for them... And that is why we see such a big problem with teams defending the 3rd on long... CBs are playing way softer these days. Welcome to the world of dink-and-dunk football.

they have essentially taken away defense from the game...
 

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khiladi;1864439 said:
This article was just dumb. Just because teams are moving away from RBs, doesn't necessarily mean it is a good idea.

And I'm not sure taking statistics from a guy like Taylor is a good idea...

He didn't say teams were moving away from RBs. He's just saying that teams are opting to take them lower.

When was the last time a running back was chosen No.1 overall?

He makes a good point. You can find running backs anywhere. But, as JJT said, if McFadden drops below the fifth pick, he's worth the pick.
 

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khiladi;1864439 said:
This article was just dumb. Just because teams are moving away from RBs, doesn't necessarily mean it is a good idea.

And I'm not sure taking statistics from a guy like Taylor is a good idea...

What was dumb about it??? He gave perfect points to back his argument that were right on. The bust scenerio with a top drafted RB is real and too much to gamble when paying a player 60mil +. Especially in this draft there's going to be to many good RBs to had later on in the draft.
 

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sjordan6;1864217 said:

McFadden isn't worth No. 1 pick


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The question is not whether Darren McFadden, college football's best player, will succeed in the NFL.

The question is whether he's worth a six-year, $60 million contract with $30 million guaranteed, because that's where negotiations for the first player selected will start.

The answer: No.

No running back is worth that kind of money.

And my mind won't change even if he rushes for 300 yards against Missouri in the AT&T Cotton Bowl.

That said, reports surfaced Friday that McFadden is driving a fancy SUV that could jeopardize his eligibility for Tuesday's game.

As disappointing as that would be, McFadden will play in the NFL next season &#8211; as he should, whether he carries the ball in the Cotton Bowl or not.

After all, he's done all he can do at the collegiate level except win the Heisman Trophy.

You can talk to me &#8211; as mama used to say &#8211; until you're blue in the face about how great the 6-2, 205-pound McFadden will be in the NFL, and it won't change my mind.

You can launch into a soliloquy about his speed, vision and toughness.

You can wax poetic about his receiving, blocking and intangibles, and it wouldn't matter.

You can have Frank Broyles lecture me for next few days about how McFadden is Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker rolled into one, and I wouldn't take him with the first pick.

There's simply too much risk to take any running back that high.

Running backs break down quickly. Most start declining when they hit 28, and by the time they're 30, many are working daily to improve their handicap.

McFadden has a tremendous upper body, but he's not thick in the lower body, which concerns some scouts because he takes a lot of hits.

There were questions about Adrian Peterson's durability, but any knowledgeable scout will tell you his lower body is thick like a tree trunk.

Still, he dropped to the seventh pick.

Running backs take more hits than any other player, and it's nearly impossible to predict who can withstand the punishment as well as who understands that taking punishment is part of the job description.

You also have to figure out who can handle the pressure of being the epicenter of the defensive game plan each week and who can handle the scrutiny when there are no holes.

Finally, you have to determine if a player's success in his college offense translates to success in an NFL offense.

For example, McFadden won't be taking many direct snaps as a quarterback in the NFL.

For every LaDainian Tomlinson, taken with the fifth pick, there's a Cedric Benson (fourth overall).

Miami's Ronnie Brown (second overall) and Tampa Bay's Cadillac Williams (fifth overall) have been OK, but has either player come anywhere close to meeting expectations?

Nope.

We all know Reggie Bush has been a flop since going second overall in 2006.

The bust rate is high for supposedly can't-miss running backs.

Too high.

It's basically a 50-50 roll of the dice whether a runner taken at the top of the draft plays to his potential.

You tell me someone who would risk $60 million on a 50-50 wager, and I'll show you a fool.

Besides, you don't have to take a running back with the top pick to win in today's NFL because it's a quarterback's game. All of the rules are set up to help the passing game &#8211; not the running game.

A glance at the rushing stats heading into the final week of the NFL season will show you five of the top 10 rushers will be sitting at home when the playoffs start.

New England, about to become the first team to go 16-0, uses the running game as an afterthought. Dallas and Green Bay, the NFC's top two teams, would certainly have to be classified as passing teams.

The Cowboys feature Marion Barber, a fourth-round pick, while Green Bay relies on Ryan Grant, who began his career two years ago as a member of the New York Giants' practice squad.

See, that's the other problem with spending a premium pick on a player like McFadden &#8211; no matter how good he is. These days, you can find running backs everywhere.

Willie Parker, second in the league in rushing, was an undrafted free agent. Brian Westbrook, fourth in the league, was a third-round pick. Don't forget that Tampa Bay's Earnest Graham, who needs 103 yards to surpass the 1,000-yard mark after injuries forced him into the lineup, was an undrafted free agent.

And with many of today's NFL teams going to two-back systems, do you really need to invest tens of millions in a player who's not carrying the ball 25 times per game?

Nope.

That's why as good as McFadden is, he shouldn't go in the top five.

After that, he'll be more worth the money.
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Meh, JJT is entitled to HIS opinion which I totally disagree with. WHO is the BEST player in the upcoming draft? I believe it's Darren McFadden. I don't care if it's a terrible gamble as JJT suggests, I would take the best player available w/ the 1st overall pick and that would be.....McFadden. Thanks for your opinion JJT, now...go away...:)
 

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5mics;1864587 said:
Meh, JJT is entitled to HIS opinion which I totally disagree with. WHO is the BEST player in the upcoming draft? I believe it's Darren McFadden. I don't care if it's a terrible gamble as JJT suggests, I would take the best player available w/ the 1st overall pick and that would be.....McFadden. Thanks for your opinion JJT, now...go away...:)

Last time I checked, you take the best player in the draft #1, to do anything different would be stupid because you would be paying #1 money to someboyd who is only the 2nd or 3rd best player. VERY DUMB.

McFadden is hands down the best player in this draft, no QB, WR, OL, or defensiver player is rated as high as McFadden. If he is not worthy of being the first pick, nobody in this draft is. If there is a 50% chance I just drafted the next LT, I would be all over that! As far as this is a passing league and QBs are more important than RBs.....

The Falcons passed on LT and took Vick, how did that work out?
 

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khiladi;1864462 said:
The early 90s defenses faced similar styles of offense, including the run-and-shoot. These type of offenses were not effective especially come play-off time, simply because they allowed the CBs to play ball.

It isn't about adapting to a new style of play. The NFL took away from the defense what they never should have.

you hit it right on. NFL made it too easy for WRs and rendered CBs almost useless.
It was the idea of the NFL to create more TDs faster to "improve" the popularity of the NFL. Well what it did, and only the die hard fans of the all pass happy game would disagree, is take away from the integrity of the game lessoning the impact of talented CBs and running backs importance.

I personally hate the higher scoring, pass happy game as it is today.
 

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Derinyar;1864444 said:
Eventually the NFL is going to have to do something to tone down the passing game somewhat. I mean if you can field 4 competent WRs you can pretty much destroy any defense currently.

With the way the the current rules are against CB's - you have a very legitimate point here and I am surprised more teams aren't spreading it out. I think you're gonna see a lot more of it.
 
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