McShay - what a goof

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I realize it's hard to follow all 32 teams and what their needs are and how may choices they have and in what round, but.... On Mike and Mike they were doing a question and answer and someone asked what Dallas would do. Golic asks what they can do without a first and third. McShay responds with, "yeah, they only have 1 pick in the first 4 rounds". Come on, we have a 2nd, a 3rd and two 4ths. 4 picks in the top 101.

Know your facts before you spit out garbage. ESPN just plain sucks
 

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DBOY3141;2740692 said:
I realize it's hard to follow all 32 teams and what their needs are and how may choices they have and in what round, but.... On Mike and Mike they were doing a question and answer and someone asked what Dallas would do. Golic asks what they can do without a first and third. McShay responds with, "yeah, they only have 1 pick in the first 4 rounds". Come on, we have a 2nd, a 3rd and two 4ths. 4 picks in the top 101.

Know your facts before you spit out garbage. ESPN just plain sucks
He's terrible, I can't believe ESPN is shoving him down their viewers throats over The Hair Kiper.
 

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DBOY3141;2740692 said:
I realize it's hard to follow all 32 teams and what their needs are and how may choices they have and in what round, but.... On Mike and Mike they were doing a question and answer and someone asked what Dallas would do. Golic asks what they can do without a first and third. McShay responds with, "yeah, they only have 1 pick in the first 4 rounds". Come on, we have a 2nd, a 3rd and two 4ths. 4 picks in the top 101.

Know your facts before you spit out garbage. ESPN just plain sucks

it is his job to be informed on all 32 teams . not so hard to do if you ask me!
 

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JPM;2740712 said:
He's terrible, I can't believe ESPN is shoving him down their viewers throats over The Hair Kiper.

I think Kiper is much better,even if you do not agree with Kiper you at least have to respect that he loves what he does and his homework is always complete .
 

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What's worse is someone that should know what the Cowboys have and still say we don't have a first or third...which is what Deion said in some video clip.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2740739 said:
What's worse is someone that should know what the Cowboys have and still say we don't have a first or third...which is what Deion said in some video clip.

what has happened , they see that Dallas traded their own 3 and did not look far enough to see that Dallas has another teams 3... Lazy is what I like to call it!
 

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Someone needs to pat Todd on the head, give him a cookie and tell him "run along, kiddo."
 

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Cowboy Junkie;2740729 said:
I think Kiper is much better,even if you do not agree with Kiper you at least have to respect that he loves what he does and his homework is always complete .

Gil Brandt was interviewed on the local sports station yesterday. He was asked about Kiper. Gil said he liked Mel, but he never sees him in the field. Gil goes to pretty much all the teams facilities and meets with coaches and players and draft prospects while Kiper does not.

Kiper knows a lot more about this stuff than I do, but I still don't trust his information or McShay's. There is only so much info you can gather from a desk, a computer and a phone.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2740739 said:
What's worse is someone that should know what the Cowboys have and still say we don't have a first or third...which is what Deion said in some video clip.
You can excuse Deion, he's a moron.
 

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joseephuss;2740764 said:
Gil Brandt was interviewed on the local sports station yesterday. He was asked about Kiper. Gil said he liked Mel, but he never sees him in the field. Gil goes to pretty much all the teams facilities and meets with coaches and players and draft prospects while Kiper does not.

Kiper knows a lot more about this stuff than I do, but I still don't trust his information or McShay's. There is only so much info you can gather from a desk, a computer and a phone.

Take note...nothing but truth.
 

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joseephuss;2740764 said:
Kiper knows a lot more about this stuff than I do, but I still don't trust his information or McShay's. There is only so much info you can gather from a desk, a computer and a phone.

Look at how much we know by just sitting at home, we have alot of info from looking at TV and been on the web all day, how else can we do a mock draft and be remotely close, Kiper has alot of sources and basically if you were a nobody and was gonna be drafted in the 6th round and Mel hype u up to be a 1st or early second, I would assume GMs around the league would take a look and there would be a chance u go in the 2nd or 3rd even though u were a 6th round project at best....
 

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joseephuss;2740764 said:
Gil Brandt was interviewed on the local sports station yesterday. He was asked about Kiper. Gil said he liked Mel, but he never sees him in the field. Gil goes to pretty much all the teams facilities and meets with coaches and players and draft prospects while Kiper does not.

Kiper knows a lot more about this stuff than I do, but I still don't trust his information or McShay's. There is only so much info you can gather from a desk, a computer and a phone.

Kiper isn't a scout and has never claimed to be.

He's an information gatherer.

In reality, that's all Gil ever was, too (even when he was employed by the Cowboys). Gil just has time to be at all these places.
 

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Chief;2740755 said:
Someone needs to pat Todd on the head, give him a cookie and tell him "run along, kiddo."


So true... but it is OBVIOUS that he is there to rile up Kiper. If ESPN wanted to go legit they would get another Kiper-type, just to play devils advocate.

McShay is downright disrespectful - thats his angle hence making it ESPN's angle.
 

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Not to get off subject but, about 2 weeks ago on PTI, Willbon and Cornholer were ripping us for the Roy Williams trade. As they were doing so they had Roy Williams (our old saftey) picture up behind them. More ESPN stupidity!
 

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joseephuss;2740764 said:
There is only so much info you can gather from a desk, a computer and a phone.

Unless you're Joel Buchsbaum, the best there ever was.
 

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I have no idea why they brought McShay in to compete with and antagonize Kiper, their golden boy. McShay is constantly trying to one up him.
 

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Chief;2740787 said:
Kiper isn't a scout and has never claimed to be.

He's an information gatherer..


Actually, it's the complete opposite.

Kiper IS more of a scout than information gatherer, which is what the Goose ( Rick Gosellin ) is.

Kiper watches tons and tons of tape on prospects and gives his evaluation on them. Kiper's opinion should be taken as to what a player is and what he would project in the next level. He's not good at predicting where they'll go in the draft because Gil is exactly right, he's not on the field talking to GMs. That's what Goose does so well and why he's so accurate with his mock drafts.

However, Kiper does do his homework talking to coaches and evaluating films, which is, basically, most of a scouts' job.
 

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DBOY3141;2740692 said:
I realize it's hard to follow all 32 teams and what their needs are and how may choices they have and in what round, but.... On Mike and Mike they were doing a question and answer and someone asked what Dallas would do. Golic asks what they can do without a first and third. McShay responds with, "yeah, they only have 1 pick in the first 4 rounds". Come on, we have a 2nd, a 3rd and two 4ths. 4 picks in the top 101.

Know your facts before you spit out garbage. ESPN just plain sucks

I heard that interview, and I was saying to myself that McShay must not realize that we have Cleveland's third round pick.
 
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