Mel Kiper Mock 4.0 (4/4/13)

[DFWJC]

Kiper just released his 2 Round, Mock 4.0.

If anyone is interested, here it is.



http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...-kiper-latest-mock-draft-goes-two-full-rounds


Dallas got
18) Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC

47 Justin Pugh, OG/OT/C, Syracuse

I'm ok with Williams (though Vacarro was still available) but would not be overly thrilled with Pugh at 47 when Kwan Short, Terron Armstead, Jesse Williams, John Jenkins, DeMontre Moore are all still available. I guess because he took Willimas in the 1st he didn't want to pass n oline again in the 2nd.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm not an insider so I am on the outside of this one.:laugh2:

 

[DFWJC]

I'm not an insider so I am on the outside of this one.:laugh2:

I'm not good about retyping the whole thing, but I'm sure someone will.

Our main targets were gone in the 1st:
8) Cooper
10) Warmack
14) Richardson
16) your boy Austin

 

[Tejano15]

I am ok with both picks only if all the top 5 OL are gone. Vaccaro could be the pick but if they really believe in Church and Johnson then we will wait to grab a Safety.

Fluker is gone too in this mock.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I like both of those players.

Just not sure I like them where they were picked.

If that makes sense.

 

[Tejano15]

I like both of those players.

Just not sure I like them where they were picked.

If that makes sense.

Pugh makes sense in the 2nd, Williams for me is early but ok, I would hope we would trade down later in the first and grab Short.

 

[xwalker]

1 Luke Joeckel
2 Ezekiel Ansah
3 Sharrif Floyd
4 Geno Smith
5 Dee Milliner
6 Dion Jordan
7 Eric Fisher
8 Jonathan Cooper
9 Barkevious Mingo
10 Chance Warmack
11 Lane Johnson
12 D.J. Fluker
13 Star Lotulelei
14 Sheldon Richardson
15 Jarvis Jones
16 Tavon Austin
17 Tyler Eifert
18 Sylvester Williams
19 Desmond Trufant
20 Manti Te'o
21 Alec Ogletree
22 Kenny Vaccaro
23 Cordarrelle Patterson
24 Xavier Rhodes
25 Kevin Minter
26 Eddie Lacy
27 Robert Woods
28 D.J. Hayden
29 Justin Hunter
30 Kyle Long
31 Margus Hunt
32 Jonathan Cyprien

Note: Cleveland Browns (2012 supplemental draft) and New Orleans Saints (forfeited due to bounty penalties) do not own 2013 second-round picks.

33 Matt Barkley
34 Matt Elam
35 Menelik Watson
36 Bjoern Werner
37 Shamarko Thomas
38 Datone Jones
39 Zach Ertz
40 Keenan Allen
41 Ryan Nassib
42 Tank Carradine
43 Jamar Taylor
44 D.J. Swearinger
45 Arthur Brown
46 Montee Ball
47 Justin Pugh
48 Cornelius Washington
49 Sio Moore
50 Jesse Williams
51 Blidi Wreh-Wilson
52 Kawann Short
53 Johnthan Banks
54 Robert Alford
55 J.J. Wilcox
56 Johnathan Hankins
57 John Jenkins
58 Damontre Moore
59 Tyrann Mathieu
60 Khaseem Greene
61 Gavin Escobar
62 Terron Armstead

 

[DBOY3141]

Some sites are saying Pugh could sneak into Round 1.

Williams is a beast. Motor runs hot and cold sometimes, but when he is on, he's really good.

I'm a UNC fan, so I may be a little biased.

 

[Future]

Am I the only one that doesn't like Pugh?

I'm a little biased but, generally I don't like these guys who have more than 1 position. To me, that means they don't play one of them well enough to stand out.

 

[ColeBeasley11]

18. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina

47. Justin Pugh, OL, Syracuse

Just curious to the boards thoughts to Kiper's latest mock which has 6 lineman go top 12. Also he has us passing on Vaccarro for Williams (a guy many wanted in 2nd) Very interesting....

 

[Clove]

I don't study players anymore until we draft them. I used to do that, and was heart broken too many times. Don't know why Jerry never picks my guys.

 

[DFWJC]

Am I the only one that doesn't like Pugh?

I'm a little biased but, generally I don't like these guys who have more than 1 position. To me, that means they don't play one of them well enough to stand out.

Dude has some very short arms. Not the end of the world (esp at OG) but it can be a problem.

 

[dart]

Am I the only one that doesn't like Pugh?

I'm a little biased but, generally I don't like these guys who have more than 1 position. To me, that means they don't play one of them well enough to stand out.

Nope count me in

 

[fishspill]

From the little I've seen, I like neither. But again, I've seen little and base this on a snap judgement.

 

[Teague31]

Can't see both cooper and warmack going top 10

 

[Gaede]

Am I the only one that doesn't like Pugh?

I'm a little biased but, generally I don't like these guys who have more than 1 position. To me, that means they don't play one of them well enough to stand out.

I don't...sounds a lot like Doug Free to me

 

[Smith22]

Can't see both cooper and warmack going top 10

agreed. it won't happen.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'm not good about retyping the whole thing, but I'm sure someone will.

Our main targets were gone in the 1st:
8) Cooper
10) Warmack
14) Richardson
16) your boy Austin

I'd be suprised, maybe not even upset, but suprised if Cooper and Warmack were gone and we didn't take Vacarro or Fluker.

To me, I think we want

1.) Cooper- Best fit in a zone blocking scheme
2.) Warmack- we haven't paid him a ton of attention, but don't discount the Saban connection.
3.) Vacarro- Best safety and we need one, problem is little seperates him from the other safties that will be available at #47
4.) Richardson- I think we are comfortable going into the season with the DTs we have, but the value is likley too good to pass up
5.) Fluker- I think I would take him before Richardson. To me, he very much could end up being the best guard in the draft. I hope we sign a tackle in free agency (Clabo or Winston) so we don't try Fluker there.

If all five are gone.....I'll be sad.....

 

[honyock]

Wow...two guards in the top ten.

6 OL in the first 12.

 

[TheCount]

Some sites are saying Pugh could sneak into Round 1.

Williams is a beast. Motor runs hot and cold sometimes, but when he is on, he's really good.

I'm a UNC fan, so I may be a little biased.

That'd be interesting, considering he's the one Ansah abused to look like a top 5 pick after doing nothing all week in practice during the Senior Bowl. Granted, that was at RT, but if he can't play tackle then he's just another guard prospect in a deep guard class.

Under Kiper's scenario, I'd go:

1. Sylvester Williams
2. Larry Warford

Hell, I might even trade up for Star Lotulelei, especially if in this scenario Warford doesn't even go in the first two rounds.