Michael Irvin being investigated for sexual assault

[GimmeTheBall!]

No, it would be unwise for him to go there. Just because a woman is giving your overtures, if she doesn't give you consent to have sex with her, the law will consider it rape.

Really, this case hinges on Irvin's DNA. If none of his DNA is found on her private parts or anywhere else he would make contact with her, it's an open-and-closed case.

But ... if her eyes say "yes, yes" ?

 

[Trouty]

@xwalker, did you know that the great Randall Wallace (writer of Braveheart, and regular collaborator with Mel) claims ancestry with William Wallace?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Irvin was on radio today against the advice of his attorney. He was detailed about what happened which tells me the hotel video will conflict with this women story (who was apparently drugged). Irvin says she followed him out of the room to elevator, was texting him and there was no sex involved. I don't think he would go on radio if hotel video, her drug test and rape/sex results were positive.

Except, barrister, Irvin is inherently stoopid.

 

[Trouty]

GBag Interview
http://download.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/dE/dJ/dN/dV/1EJNV_3.MP3?show=Gavin+Dawson&category=Sports+&+Recreation&callsign=KRLDFM&market=Dallas-Fort+Worth&awCollectionId=764&awEpisodeId=761830

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/audio/gbag-nation/

Damn, watching that, my heart bleeds for Irv

 

[xwalker]

No, it would be unwise for him to go there. Just because a woman is giving your overtures, if she doesn't give you consent to have sex with her, the law will consider it rape.

Really, this case hinges on Irvin's DNA. If none of his DNA is found on her private parts or anywhere else he would make contact with her, it's an open-and-closed case.

Hopefully Gimme was joking, but I never know. It's like trying to decipher Jerry-speak.

Maybe Gimme can break out the "Just lay back and enjoy it" sthick

@xwalker, did you know that the great Randall Wallace (writer of Braveheart, and regular collaborator with Mel) claims ancestry with William Wallace?

No, but I claim ancestry with William Wallace and Johnnie Walker. Seriously.

 

[Trouty]

No, but I claim ancestry with William Wallace and Johnnie Walker. Seriously.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Again! ...lol, always loved Michael, then someone asked him for an autograph but he "don't give autographs anymore".

 

[Philmonroe]

Me mum says it is due to stress, and lots of bananas and fiber always work.

I would tell you something crass about your mom but I'm not that type lol

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I would tell you something crass about your mom but I'm not that type lol

I hope you know that you made me and Jesus cry.
You are not a good person.

 

[Philmonroe]

I hope you know that you made me and Jesus cry.
You are not a good person.

I agree I'm not a good person lol

 

[Tenkamenin]

Irvin was on radio today against the advice of his attorney. He was detailed about what happened which tells me the hotel video will conflict with this women story (who was apparently drugged). Irvin says she followed him out of the room to elevator, was texting him and there was no sex involved. I don't think he would go on radio if hotel video, her drug test and rape/sex results were positive.

I'm not so sure the video will shed light on anything. Following him out doesn't mean nothing happened. Moreover, according to his account, Irvin was in the hotel room long enough to pack and take a shower. No female friend of mine is going to be in the same hotel room with me while I'm taking a shower. You would have to be a blood relative for that to happen.

The text messages may not prove anything as well, especially if by her account she inquired if "anything happened." The DNA test is a big deal, because apparently she went to the police the next morning. I do wonder why she would hire Gloria Allred if it's a lie. Does Gloria Allred take up these cases just for publicity? It seems like there's a possible settlement she's banking on. I'm kind of concerned here........

 

[Trouty]

The text messages may not prove anything as well, especially if by her account she inquired if "anything happened." The DNA test is a big deal, because apparently she went to the police the next morning. I do wonder why she would hire Gloria Allred if it's a lie. Does Gloria Allred take up these cases just for publicity? It seems like there's a possible settlement she's banking on. I'm kind of concerned here........

Yes.

 

[Idgit]

I'm not so sure the video will shed light on anything. Following him out doesn't mean nothing happened. Moreover, according to his account, Irvin was in the hotel room long enough to pack and take a shower. No female friend of mine is going to be in the same hotel room with me while I'm taking a shower. You would have to be a blood relative for that to happen.

The text messages may not prove anything as well, especially if by her account she inquired if "anything happened." The DNA test is a big deal, because apparently she went to the police the next morning. I do wonder why she would hire Gloria Allred if it's a lie. Does Gloria Allred take up these cases just for publicity? It seems like there's a possible settlement she's banking on. I'm kind of concerned here........

Sounds to me like he likely had consensual sex with her and now is probably getting shaken down. Mike's a believable guy, but the story is a bit of a stretch. He's alone in a hotel, showers, and leaves with her early in the AM. He's known her for ten years because she used to date his friend. That's not a "niece."

 

[Wood]

I'm not so sure the video will shed light on anything. Following him out doesn't mean nothing happened. Moreover, according to his account, Irvin was in the hotel room long enough to pack and take a shower. No female friend of mine is going to be in the same hotel room with me while I'm taking a shower. You would have to be a blood relative for that to happen.

The text messages may not prove anything as well, especially if by her account she inquired if "anything happened." The DNA test is a big deal, because apparently she went to the police the next morning. I do wonder why she would hire Gloria Allred if it's a lie. Does Gloria Allred take up these cases just for publicity? It seems like there's a possible settlement she's banking on. I'm kind of concerned here........

I agree the DNA test is big but he sounded very confident that nothing sexual happened.

Sounds to me like he likely had consensual sex with her and now is probably getting shaken down. Mike's a believable guy, but the story is a bit of a stretch. He's alone in a hotel, showers, and leaves with her early in the AM. He's known her for ten years because she used to date his friend. That's not a "niece."

but if the DNA test shows they had sex...then why would Mike attempt to get out ahead of it with detailed interview. If he knew he had sex with her and test shows this then he waits for trail and tries to find technicality error on collection of evidence or go with it was consensual sex. The last thing a man would do it get out in front of everyone with his reputation on line and give 20 minute interview with questions. Because if DNA test is positive then he is guilty because he lied this is even without a trial. I would believe both parties would already know result of that DNA test even before it was collected.

Now what I think we are looking at is consensual sex. If that is the case she knows she has Mike right where she wants him because he is married man. Mike seems to be protecting his marriage vigorously. He even seems to be protecting his marriage to the point that it could cost him his freedom because as I said if DNA test is positive he is guilty because he lied. He gave himself no wiggle room with interview and has pushed all his chips in that test will come back negative.

 

[Idgit]

I agree the DNA test is big but he sounded very confident that nothing sexual happened.


but if the DNA test shows they had sex...then why would Mike attempt to get out ahead of it with detailed interview. If he knew he had sex with her and test shows this then he waits for trail and tries to find technicality error on collection of evidence or go with it was consensual sex. The last thing a man would do it get out in front of everyone with his reputation on line and give 20 minute interview with questions. Because if DNA test is positive then he is guilty because he lied this is even without a trial. I would believe both parties would already know result of that DNA test even before it was collected.

Now what I think we are looking at is consensual sex. If that is the case she knows she has Mike right where she wants him because he is married man. Mike seems to be protecting his marriage vigorously. He even seems to be protecting his marriage to the point that it could cost him his freedom because as I said if DNA test is positive he is guilty because he lied. He gave himself no wiggle room with interview and has pushed all his chips in that test will come back negative.

Good point about the DNA. Maybe he thinks he'll be able to prove he didn't drug her when they get the video, but knows he had consensual sex. He gets his story public, they drop the charges, then he pays her off and gets her silence as part of the civil settlement?

I'm not sure what's going on. I just see Mike looks really innocent while telling a story that looks and walks exactly like a duck.

 

[Wood]

Good point about the DNA. Maybe he thinks he'll be able to prove he didn't drug her when they get the video, but knows he had consensual sex. He gets his story public, they drop the charges, then he pays her off and gets her silence as part of the civil settlement?

I'm not sure what's going on. I just see Mike looks really innocent while telling a story that looks and walks exactly like a duck.

thats what I am thinking. He might feel so confident the date rape drug will come back negative and thus her case falls apart because its all based on her being unable to defend herself while he was on her. But they can do hair follicle test that would confirm sex and Mike would have to explain that. Now if both of those test come back negative then she needs to go to jail.

 

[Idgit]

thats what I am thinking. He might feel so confident the date rape drug will come back negative and thus her case falls apart because its all based on her being unable to defend herself while he was on her. But they can do hair follicle test that would confirm sex and Mike would have to explain that. Now if both of those test come back negative then she needs to go to jail.

No kidding. If she's lying about it all, she deserves jail. Even if she's just lying about it. It being consentual.

 

[Wood]

I see 3 scenarios in this case in order of likeliness:

Scenario One:
1. DNA Test: +
2. Hair follicle Test: +
3 Date Rape Drug Test: -
In this scenario they are both guilty of lying. Likely was consensual sex. She gets nothing and Mike works on trying to repair his marriage.

Scenario Two:
1. DNA Test: +
2. Hair follicle Test: +
3 Date Rape Drug Test: +
This is doomsday scenario for Mike as he goes to big house for long time, pays millions to victim and likely losses his wife.

Scenario Three:
1. DNA Test: -
2. Hair follicle Test: -
3 Date Rape Drug Test: -
In this scenario she would likely go to jail for lying under oath and defamation of character. Mike comes out bigger than ever.

 

[punchnjudy]

Best thing for Mike/worst thing for her would be evidence that she purchased the date rape drug online or wherever.

Of course, accomplishing that is easier said than done. That's probably a pipe dream.

If he slept with her, he shouldn't be talking to the media period. Worst part about that is it would mean there's a good chance he's been lying to his defense team.

 

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