Michael Irvin being investigated for sexual assault

CanadianCowboysFan

Lightning Rod
Messages
25,364
Reaction score
8,139
Is it BS he was committing adultry? Where there's smoke usually some fire.

With his history , if he's willing to cheat he's probably willing to abuse or at least take advantage of a young women if she's drunk.

Sounds like Michael up to his ole tricks to me.

you have got to be jiving

You equate stepping out with abuse?
 

CanadianCowboysFan

Lightning Rod
Messages
25,364
Reaction score
8,139
Considering the story is about her accusing him of sexual assault then yes

there is a big difference between getting some on the side and sexually assaulting someone else

I know for the holier than thou crowd on webboards, you know the ones who judge everyone else on some mythical standard, it probably is the same, but it is hardly the same thing. If part of his deal with his wife was, look you get really nice clothes, nice house, nice financial security, in return I do what I want, who are we to say that is wrong.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,715
I didn't choose the best words, that's on me. I just want to see how this all plays out, he's done some really dumb stuff in the past, but he's also been accused of things he didn't do. I hope he didn't do this.

Fair enough. Thanks for the explanation. :)
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
there is a big difference between getting some on the side and sexually assaulting someone else

I know for the holier than thou crowd on webboards, you know the ones who judge everyone else on some mythical standard, it probably is the same, but it is hardly the same thing. If part of his deal with his wife was, look you get really nice clothes, nice house, nice financial security, in return I do what I want, who are we to say that is wrong.

I think some of us consider marriage a sacred vow. As for Irvin and his wife that is their business, Mike is a grown man however that does not change the fact that some will look down on being unfaithful. As for this story again it is about sexual assault which is why it is a story.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,715
Of course, I am bias but judging by the article, it seems that this has a high likelihood of someone trying to get paid because Irvin was somewhere he shouldn't have been.

His lawyer's comments make it appear that he will have a pretty good alibi---not to mention the alleged victim's lack of recollection of anything that went on. I guess drugs could be to blame for that but if there were other people in the room at the time...it seems a little odd you would accuse the one with the biggest wallet of taking advantage of you.

As I said, I am bias but it doesn't seem like there is any evidence besides Irvin's history.

What concerns me is that the lawyer admits the woman was drunk. If that is the case, and if the woman, after reporting the incident, had a rape test done where they collected Michael Irvin's semen, the Playmaker is in trouble.

A man isn't exonerated because a woman is drunk. Quite the contrary, the courts sometimes consider the woman's state of mind in disputes like this. I don't think it was wise for Irvin's attorney to say she was drunk.
 

erod

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,705
Reaction score
60,327
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Folks looking to downplay this.....

Go back and read the whole scenario with the police officer, Johnny Hernandez, back in the day. Sounded like something out of a mob movie

Irvin is capable of some scary stuff.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,715
bigger question is, should anyone care given it is his and her business?

Why should we care? Because some people don't support the concept of adultery. And when more people do it, and it's reported, then it makes it appear that it's normal. And we have a lot of people who do things because they have been normalized by society.
And we ALL should be concerned about the societal messages we send.

Besides, I always say, if you want something to be your business, then keep it to yourself. Once you're indiscrete and your business becomes public knowledge, you invite people's opinion and judgment.
 

Supercowboy1986

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,204
Reaction score
3,022
Not on the accusations, but more on him being in the situations where the accusations get made over and over and over.

He's also admitted to straying in his discussions of the White House days hasn't he? I think that's all public. But even if it's not, it's pretty obvious.

And I love Irvin as a Cowboy fan. People are complex, and he's got his demons. That stuff comes with the dinner as Jason would say. But I don't think he's a monogamous husband, and I don't suspect that's ever changed.

All true and well said, I personally just have a hard time caring about his level of faithfulness to his wife or any other former/current player. It's not my problem and it's their relationship.
 

Supercowboy1986

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,204
Reaction score
3,022
Why should we care? Because some people don't support the concept of adultery. And when more people do it, and it's reported, then it makes it appear that it's normal. And we have a lot of people who do things because they have been normalized by society.
And we ALL should be concerned about the societal messages we send.

I hear ya with the desensitized argument but I still don't care about other people's private affairs. Especially people who I don't know or isn't part of my immediate family whose actions have no impact on me.

Also, speaking for myself, because I don't care about Irvin and his wife doesn't mean I endorse adultey. It's just I don't care because it doesn't involve me or impact me in any way.
 

Diehardblues

Well-Known Member
Messages
58,286
Reaction score
38,871
Why do you hate him so much? All your posts cites he is a criminal....he has not been convicted of anything....get your thumbs out of your arse...and get a freaking clue....
loved him as our HOF WR . Hate his behavior off the field.
 

CanadianCowboysFan

Lightning Rod
Messages
25,364
Reaction score
8,139
I think some of us consider marriage a sacred vow. As for Irvin and his wife that is their business, Mike is a grown man however that does not change the fact that some will look down on being unfaithful. As for this story again it is about sexual assault which is why it is a story.

good for you and others, but the good book says judge not lest ye be judged

I am sure that most here have skeletons in their closet that they would not want others to know

May he who is without sin, cast the first stone
 

cowboyblue22

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,031
Reaction score
8,707
this is nothing new for him he has a long history of this stuff plus drugs on e of my least favorite cowboys ever he should and more than likely will be suspended
 

Reverend Conehead

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,953
Reaction score
11,858
I hope this isn't true. I'll be seriously bummed if it turns out to be. Then again, there are false accusations out there, so we just don't know. It's a way to make some bucks off a rich and famous person. I don't care if some feminists throw a tantrum over that, the fact is false accusations do indeed happen sometimes.
 

CanadianCowboysFan

Lightning Rod
Messages
25,364
Reaction score
8,139
Folks looking to downplay this.....

Go back and read the whole scenario with the police officer, Johnny Hernandez, back in the day. Sounded like something out of a mob movie

Irvin is capable of some scary stuff.

we knew that from before yet still cheer him on when he defends the team, when he scored touchdowns, when he takes no crap from EagleFan etc
 

Doomsday101

Well-Known Member
Messages
107,762
Reaction score
39,034
good for you and others, but the good book says judge not lest ye be judged

I am sure that most here have skeletons in their closet that they would not want others to know

May he who is without sin, cast the first stone

I'm not casting his soul to hell, lol that is between him and the good lord. So using biblical terms is pretty meaningless, since I am not casting any stones about another persons soul. If you ask me if I think cheating on your spouse is a good thing then no I don't. I'm not going to lose sleep over it by any means because it is between Mike and his wife. Once again when the article is about a criminal act then yes it changes everything. I don't know if Mike did what he is being accused of or not but we will find out. Mike's cheating is not a criminal act but what he is being accused of is.
 
Top