Michael Irvin makes impassioned plea to Jerry Jones: Overpay for DeMarco Murray

[Stash]

Michael has always had a problem with letting emotion get the better of him. Both a great strength and a great weakness of his.

Very well said.

 

[The Quest for Six]

No he is not the end all he is a man with a view and the view is based on his past experience as a member of the team. But again it is just his view.

You can't overpay everyone, especially the position of running back, Murray isn't E.Smith and certainly not worth 7 or 8 million a year and today's NFL is different, running backs are a dime a dozen and not a premium, see Baltimore when Rice was suspended, Forsett was on the street and look what he did last year...I'll listen to Irvin with regards to playing the receiver position, how to set up a defender, how to use your hands, how to run a route, etc..other than that, not so much!

 

[Doomsday101]

I would have liked to see Murray stay, but I would ask Mike how much is too much, I guess we can all decide if it was too much once we see what he signs for in Philly.

Murray just had one of the best season ever by a RB so I understand the value, but what type of a season would a very good back have behind that line.

I think we are about to find out.

Right now we do not know what offer is even on the table. Reports tend to suggest that Oakland is offering more than anyone. What Philly may or may not offer is unknown or what the Cowboys may choose to do as reports still suggest Dallas is waiting on these offers before they may choose to jump into the mix.

 

[erod]

I wouldn't listen to Michael Irvin about anything.

 

[Doomsday101]

You can't overpay everyone, especially the position of running back, Murray isn't E.Smith and certainly not worth 7 or 8 million a year and today's NFL is different, running backs are a dime a dozen and not a premium, see Baltimore when Rice was suspended, Forsett was on the street and look what he did last year...I'll listen to Irvin with regards to playing the receiver position, how to set up a defender, how to use your hands, how to run a route, etc..other than that, not so much!

No you can't overpay everyone, then again you can pay those who perform excellent. I don't care if you listen to Irvin or not. I did not post this as some Irvin knows all, he has an opinion just as you do and just as I do. Claiming he does not know what he is talking about fine I could say you don't know what your talking about. It is just a difference in prespective

 

[DFWJC]

I love Mike, but "you have a man that led the league in rushing" has a little to do with the 5 hosses up front too. Last I checked, they were all returning.

And never (or rarely) seeing a loaded box because the fear of Romo to Dez was too great.

He did have a phenomenal year. Don't want to take that from him.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It had to do with the leading rusher in the NFL and it had to do with rewarding excellent play. Murray is a RB it has everything to do with rushing and doing it at a rate that was above all others last season.

Well thank God no one on here is running the team then just ready to hand out enormous big money contracts to a injury prone running back that could then help destroy our cap situation down the road.

You don't pay a player off of just one year. Murray was great last year. In a contract year.

Prior to that he couldn't stay healthy enough to not miss multiple games.

Even in his contract year he got injured again but chose to play through it. Based off his injury plagued past, going all the way back to when he was at OU and couldn't stay healthy, I wouldn't be eager to sign him to some huge deal either.

 

[boysfanindc]

Agreed, but there is a number that is too much, we might argue about what the number is, but there is a number.

 

[cowboyvic]

On Jerry Jones/Murray: “He’s trying to sign him, trying to find a way but trying to find a way at the best price he can.”
“No matter where the price goes, if Jerry Jones wants to sign him, he can sign him.”
“You have a man that just led the league in rushing. What message does it send to the rest of your team to leave him out?”
“I would say to Jerry I don’t care if you overpay a little right here. It sends not a bad message but a good message.”
“When you perform like this, you will get taken care of. That message he needs to send through the locker room. Period.”

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Like it or not, Michael Irvin is right. if Murray leaves. Jerry and his cowboys could be looking at 6 and 10. you don't let the NFL offensive player of the year just walk away, and it has no effect on your team.

 

[mahoneybill]

Really like Mike, but also would want to hear him say " DeMarco... yes the $$$ are important, but also being with an owner who will support you when times are bad ( numerous examples of JJ doing this) is worth more than a bigger offer with an owner who will let you go....

Right now we do not know what offer is even on the table. Reports tend to suggest that Oakland is offering more than anyone. What Philly may or may not offer is unknown or what the Cowboys may choose to do as reports still suggest Dallas is waiting on these offers before they may choose to jump into the mix.

Good summary. DeMarco has one chance and his agent will advise him to do whatever he can to drive up the price ( of course agent isn't thinking of his commission)

Meanwhile looking a Philly papers they are crucifying Chip K for trade of Foles.... DeMarco may be equal PR stunt to take the heat off by changing the topic....

We shall see

 

[Doomsday101]

Well thank God no one on here is running the team then just ready to hand out enormous big money contracts to a injury prone running back that could then help destroy our cap situation down the road.

You don't pay a player off of just one year. Murray was great last year. In a contract year.

Prior to that he couldn't stay healthy enough to not miss multiple games.

Even in his contract year he got injured again but chose to play through it. Based off his injury plagued past, going all the way back to when he was at OU and couldn't stay healthy, I wouldn't be eager to sign him to some huge deal either.

We do not even know what these offers are, You are right I'm glad people here do not run the team they are making a choice not even knowing what is on the table. Making a decision based on little fact is pretty bad. Is Philly going to offer 8 or 9 mill? What exactly is the offer please tell me then at least we can have an intelligent conversation based on real facts. I do agree there is a limit and the Cowboys are letting this play out and I trust they will make a call based on facts and real numbers

 

[cowboyvic]

really? He played on a team with the all time leading rusher and got 3 rings. I think Mike knows the importance of a strong running game, better than most

Good post. i agree with Michael. but why let facts get in the way of the don't pay Murray mob.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Funny. There have been many Mike's on this board for months.

 

[LucaBrasi]

I don't think Mike discredits what the OL did no more than he discredited the OL he played with but it is not just the OL and it is not a matter of just sticking any RB in there and getting the results. I have yet to hear one person with NFL experience claim that it was all the OL and Murray played a little part in it. No they are smarter than that.

I'm all for keeping Murray, but not at $7-8 million per year. Not after 447 touches and at age 27. I'll take my chances on a platoon of rb getting 1,845, or a draft pick and putting some resources into the defense. Also, the fact of the matter is that Dallas has a franchise qb that is a $27 million cap hit. They are being conservative, to try and restructure a 35 year old qb's contract and push cap $ into the future, just isnt smart business.

 

[Doomsday101]

Really like Mike, but also would want to hear him say " DeMarco... yes the $$$ are important, but also being with an owner who will support you when times are bad ( numerous examples of JJ doing this) is worth more than a bigger offer with an owner who will let you go....


Good summary. DeMarco has one chance and his agent will advise him to do whatever he can to drive up the price ( of course agent isn't thinking of his commission)

Meanwhile looking a Philly papers they are crucifying Chip K for trade of Foles.... DeMarco may be equal PR stunt to take the heat off by changing the topic....

We shall see

I think there is a limit to what Philly will offer, they have Mathews whom they signed and Sproles making 3.5 mill a year. I doubt Philly will over much more than what Dallas will. Oakland on the other hand is the real wildcard they have a lot of space under the cap.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

We do not even know what these offers are, You are right I'm glad people here do not run the team they are making a choice not even knowing what is on the table. Making a decision based on little fact is pretty bad. Is Philly going to offer 8 or 9 mill? What exactly is the offer please tell me then at least we can have an intelligent conversation based on real facts. I do agree there is a limit and the Cowboys are letting this play out and I trust they will make a call based on facts and real numbers

I saw online yesterday that reportedly Dallas was offering Murray 5 million per year right before FA started.

If that report was true (It was a link to a Dallas Cowboys 24/7 site on my Facebook so it's certainly not the be all end all) and Philly is offering 8-9 million a year, or anyone is for that matter, you're talking about 3-4 million more per year then Dallas was offering.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Like it or not, Michael Irvin is right. if Murray leaves. Jerry and his cowboys could be looking at 6 and 10. you don't let the NFL offensive player of the year just walk away, and it has no effect on your team.

heard that last year too when Ware and Hatcher left...

 

[Risen Star]

Michael has always had a problem with letting emotion get the better of him. Both a great strength and a great weakness of his.

Great post.

Mike, you can be my coach any day, but stay away from the personnel side of things.

 

[coach steele]

really? He played on a team with the all time leading rusher and got 3 rings. I think Mike knows the importance of a strong running game, better than most

And also a dominant defense. We can't invest in a QB, WR, TE, LT and a RB and pay a C, and a Guard and have anything left for the defense. We will continue to have a running game, it just won't be Demarco running the ball.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm all for keeping Murray, but not at $7-8 million per year. Not after 447 touches and at age 27. I'll take my chances on a platoon of rb getting 1,845, or a draft pick and putting some resources into the defense. Also, the fact of the matter is that Dallas has a franchise qb that is a $27 million cap hit. They are being conservative, to try and restructure a 35 year old qb's contract and push cap $ into the future, just isnt smart business.

We do not know what offers are out there. Can you tell me right now what Oakland has offered or Philly? I agree there is a limit that Dallas should go but without knowing the figures being offered we are really in the dark.