Michael Vick says younger teammates don’t respect him

[RoyTheHammer]

Fishers generally don't make it a practice to electrocute the fish, when they try they tend to get fined or arrested (it's illegal). Deer hunters don't typically hang deer. In both cases the deaths are far quicker and less painful than the months or years of mental and physical abuse that fighting dogs go through before they're finally killed.

If you fail to understand those distinctions then I have nothing further to say to you.

So its ok to make animals sufferfor a little bit and then kill them for our amusement.. as long as you don't make them suffer "toooo much".

Got it.

 

[Cowboysfan570]

So its ok to make animals sufferfor a little bit and then kill them for our amusement.. as long as you don't make them suffer "toooo much".

Got it.

I don't argue with PETA members as it's impossible to reason with those who don't believe in it. Welcome to ignore.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't argue with PETA members as it's impossible to reason with those who don't believe in it. Welcome to ignore.

lol.. never been a PETA member in my life.

Shows just what kind of "reason" you like to deal in though.. glad this little discussion won't be continuing. Bye now.

 

[joseephuss]

In both cases, the animals suffer and then they are killed.. are they not?

The difference? Society has raised you to believe one is more socially acceptable than the other.

Both make animals suffer and then die for human recreation and amusement.

You've made this argument before. There is a difference. You can think both are cruel, but there is still a difference in level of cruelty. Even you have to be able to see that difference.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

You've made this argument before. There is a difference. You can think both are cruel, but there is still a difference in level of cruelty. Even you have to be able to see that difference.

Again, so its ok to be a little cruel to animals.. just not "too" much.

Such sound logic there..

There's no difference.. people are making animals suffer and killing them for their own personal amusement and fun.

Its either acceptable or its not.

Even you have to be able to understand that.

 

[Tabascocat]

Wow, how did this come down to comparing making dogs fight each other for monetary enjoyment to people who hunt game(deer, fish, birds, etc)? I got news for some of yall, man was made to hunt and eat meat and they have been doing so since the dawn of man.

I agree to an extent, I can't stand those that go kill deer, moose, elk, bears, Bigfoot and African game for pure enjoyment just to stuff them. They are on the same level as Vick to me but those who hunt to put food on their plates is totally different than betting 5k on a dog named Spike.

 

[joseephuss]

Again, so its ok to be a little cruel to animals.. just not "too" much.

Such sound logic there..

There's no difference.. people are making animals suffer and killing them for their own personal amusement and fun.

Its either acceptable or its not.

Even you have to be able to understand that.

Bull. If I punch you in the arm, it is assault and you press charges. If a two year old punches you in the face you laugh it off. Even though in both scenarios you are getting punched, there are differences. I am not saying that fishing or hunting are right, but there are levels. That is easy for anyone to see, but you apparently.

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

If you told me that the Giants would lost their next 50 games against the Cowboys but that would guarantee that Vick never wins a Super Bowl, I'd take it in a second!

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Bull. If I punch you in the arm, it is assault and you press charges. If a two year old punches you in the face you laugh it off. Even though in both scenarios you are getting punched, there are differences. I am not saying that fishing or hunting are right, but there are levels. That is easy for anyone to see, but you apparently.

In that scenario.. i wouldn't call what the child did "cruel" in any way.. so no, its not the same.

Unless of course you don't consider someone shooting a defenseless animal in the face for their own personal enjoyment cruel in any way.. in which case, we're probably done here.

 

[joseephuss]

In that scenario.. i wouldn't call what the child did "cruel" in any way.. so no, its not the same.

Unless of course you don't consider someone shooting a defenseless animal in the face for their own personal enjoyment cruel in any way.. in which case, we're probably done here.

It doesn't matter if I think it is cruel or not. What matters is that there are still levels of cruelty.

If I don't think shooting a defenseless animal in the face is cruel, I can still see that what Vick did as being more cruel.

If I do think shooting a defenseless animal in the face is cruel, I can still see that what Vick did as being more cruel.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

It doesn't matter if I think it is cruel or not. What matters is that there are still levels of cruelty.

If I don't think shooting a defenseless animal in the face is cruel, I can still see that what Vick did as being more cruel.

If I do think shooting a defenseless animal in the face is cruel, I can still see that what Vick did as being more cruel.

Any idea how a slaughterhouse works? To kill millions of animals every year?

No problems with that in our country though..

I enjoy the hypocisy of so many.

 

[joseephuss]

Any idea how a slaughterhouse works? To kill millions of animals every year?

No problems with that in our country though..

I enjoy the hypocisy of so many.

What does that have to do with anything? Someone can see that a slaughterhouse is bad and still can see that what Vick did was even worse. You just can't see it from your high horse.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

What does that have to do with anything? Someone can see that a slaughterhouse is bad and still can see that what Vick did was even worse. You just can't see it from your high horse.

Call it whatever you want.. but what it has to do with anything is showing you that there are many examples of how humans treat animals with cruelty and yet so many are outraged over one man being cruel to animals.

Its a joke..and a bad one. All it does is showcase the hypocisy of our society nowadays.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Unless Vick was killing the dogs to eat them, you cannot compare it to hunting.

 

[Hoov]

How about Killing Mosquitos ?

Everyone has to draw the line somewhere.

I dont like to see animals suffer so i dont go out and hunt, i just dont think i would enjoy it at all. But i do enjoy eating meat and i dont spend any time thinking about it when im out ordering a snadwich or a steak.

I have fished before. I didnt think much about it when i was pulling a bluefish in until i threw it in a bucket with the other fish people were catching. I went to get my line set for another one and looked over and could see them all gasping for breath. It bothered me for a minute, then i decided not to look and kept fishing. In the end, I guess i decided to think of a fish as a lower animal.

I like to eat lobster, but i really dont want to throw one in a pot live and listen to it clawing around as it gets steamed.

 

[zrinkill]

Vick only gets respect from people of like mind.

He deserves none.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Unless Vick was killing the dogs to eat them, you cannot compare it to hunting.

Yes, because people in this country hunt because they have to in order to feed themselves..

Give us a break.. its clearly a recreational activity, not a necessity.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Yes, because people in this country hunt because they have to in order to feed themselves..

Give us a break.. its clearly a recreational activity, not a necessity.

They sell deer in the supermarket? I've never seen it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

They sell deer in the supermarket? I've never seen it.

There are actually places that sell deer meet and deer jerky and the like.. not that deer is the only animal hunted.

But again, you aren't hunting it for the purpose of feeding your family. as if you didn't get anything you'd go hungery.

Its a recreational activity.. to amuse and entertain us.

 

[amart824]

Well, this doesn't sound good for Eagles fans. I hope they get it sorted out.

A tad surprising when you consider how massive of a star Vick was during most of their formative years.