Might be smarter to fill most critical roster voids via trade

Proof · May 13, 2022 at 1:58 PM

_sturt_ said: ↑

Sorry... first round pick.
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duh

i was racking my brain lmao. thanks

_sturt_ · May 13, 2022 at 3:17 PM

CowboyoWales said: ↑

Googled, Risner
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Okay. Well-taken. Went back in my browser history, and here's a couple of things my searches had uncovered that evidently required some other keywords...

_sturt_ · May 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM

Doh... and this one...

And.

Now that Landry is evidently signing in New Orleans, it's almost certainly going to raise the volume on them fielding offers for Tre'Quan Smith, who they signed earlier in the off-season.

exciter · May 13, 2022 at 5:02 PM

_sturt_ said: ↑

The logic is this.

On the O-line, whatever decent-enough talent might be left in free agency to serve as the default if the 21 year-old fails to win confidence... they're probably more keen on finding a team that didn't just draft a FRP at their position. So, assuming there was anyone there you'd like, you're probably going to have to overpay to compensate for the fact that they probably have better options in terms of playing time.

In the WR corps, it's not very different, except instead of a FRP, you've got a guy who just signed a significant contract who is anticipated to be back at some point. And given the enthusiasm for the 3rd round guy who they almost took in the 2nd round, there likely are better options for a credible free agent receiver (... and again, like O-line, not that there's that many left to pick from anyhow).

Finally, among the LBs, it's not even clear that there would be any real chance to start, so LBs with that ambition (ie, who are actually potential impact players there) probably will have some allergy to signing up with Big D.

So, I'm one of those persuaded now that you watch the trade block for some decent opportunities instead of free agency. Some names are beginning to be floated among team bloggers/reporters as vulnerable as a consequence of their teams' higher draft picks.

Some early candidates on the O-line specifically include Dalton Risner (OG, Broncos) and Denzelle Good (OG/OT Raiders).
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Hmmm… they just traded a top #1 WR for a fringe 3rd string developmental Tackle…. Maybe leave trading to the teams that are capable of doing so!

_sturt_ · May 13, 2022 at 7:03 PM

exciter said: ↑

Hmmm… they just traded a top #1 WR for a fringe 3rd string developmental Tackle…. Maybe leave trading to the teams that are capable of doing so!
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Gets tedious to have that trade misrepresented as-if salary wasn't an issue, and my Spidey sense would add, as-if attitude wasn't an issue. Don't read that as me having a problem with his attitude, but the easy interpretation is that Jerry felt the vax thing was too emblematic of a team-second attitude, and from that moment on, Amari was probably marked for being dispatched. And look, the market was the market for a guy with that production at that salary. Self-interest is self-interest. Not rational to say they took the worst offer they could get. Only rational that they took the best offer. Perhaps their timing sucked, I don't pretend to know what I cannot possibly know w/o the help of hidden mics and cameras.

If anything, this team is rightly chided for not being somewhat more inclined to make trades than they have been.

_sturt_ · May 13, 2022 at 10:11 PM

I concur, David.

exciter · May 13, 2022 at 10:31 PM

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_sturt_ said: ↑

Gets tedious to have that trade misrepresented as-if salary wasn't an issue, and my Spidey sense would add, as-if attitude wasn't an issue. Don't read that as me having a problem with his attitude, but the easy interpretation is that Jerry felt the vax thing was too emblematic of a team-second attitude, and from that moment on, Amari was probably marked for being dispatched. And look, the market was the market for a guy with that production at that salary. Self-interest is self-interest. Not rational to say they took the worst offer they could get. Only rational that they took the best offer. Perhaps their timing sucked, I don't pretend to know what I cannot possibly know w/o the help of hidden mics and cameras.

If anything, this team is rightly chided for not being somewhat more inclined to make trades than they have been.
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No way to sugar coat it… it was a dumb trade. If you look around the league at the value other teams got for comparable WRs it was a “basic reasoning skills of a potato” dumb trade. And that’s being nice!

gimmesix · May 14, 2022 at 1:21 AM

_sturt_ said: ↑

The logic is this.

On the O-line, whatever decent-enough talent might be left in free agency to serve as the default if the 21 year-old fails to win confidence... they're probably more keen on finding a team that didn't just draft a FRP at their position. So, assuming there was anyone there you'd like, you're probably going to have to overpay to compensate for the fact that they probably have better options in terms of playing time.

In the WR corps, it's not very different, except instead of a FRP, you've got a guy who just signed a significant contract who is anticipated to be back at some point. And given the enthusiasm for the 3rd round guy who they almost took in the 2nd round, there likely are better options for a credible free agent receiver (... and again, like O-line, not that there's that many left to pick from anyhow).

Finally, among the LBs, it's not even clear that there would be any real chance to start, so LBs with that ambition (ie, who are actually potential impact players there) probably will have some allergy to signing up with Big D.

So, I'm one of those persuaded now that you watch the trade block for some decent opportunities instead of free agency. Some names are beginning to be floated among team bloggers/reporters as vulnerable as a consequence of their teams' higher draft picks.

Some early candidates on the O-line specifically include Dalton Risner (OG, Broncos) and Denzelle Good (OG/OT Raiders).
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I think late preseason trades/acquisitions are one of the things the Joneses count on if they feel the team needs to pick up players. Stephen Jones has addressed it before.

charron · May 15, 2022 at 7:08 AM

Trades aren't how Stephen operates and when he does trade it'll be for an unproven guy for a late pick. They also won't trade for a starting quality in a backup especially while they have a cheaper option already on the roster. This team is set barring injury.

Jake · May 16, 2022 at 11:08 AM

_sturt_ said: ↑

The logic is this.

On the O-line, whatever decent-enough talent might be left in free agency to serve as the default if the 21 year-old fails to win confidence... they're probably more keen on finding a team that didn't just draft a FRP at their position. So, assuming there was anyone there you'd like, you're probably going to have to overpay to compensate for the fact that they probably have better options in terms of playing time.

In the WR corps, it's not very different, except instead of a FRP, you've got a guy who just signed a significant contract who is anticipated to be back at some point. And given the enthusiasm for the 3rd round guy who they almost took in the 2nd round, there likely are better options for a credible free agent receiver (... and again, like O-line, not that there's that many left to pick from anyhow).

Finally, among the LBs, it's not even clear that there would be any real chance to start, so LBs with that ambition (ie, who are actually potential impact players there) probably will have some allergy to signing up with Big D.

So, I'm one of those persuaded now that you watch the trade block for some decent opportunities instead of free agency. Some names are beginning to be floated among team bloggers/reporters as vulnerable as a consequence of their teams' higher draft picks.

Some early candidates on the O-line specifically include Dalton Risner (OG, Broncos) and Denzelle Good (OG/OT Raiders).
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Sounds good, in theory, but then I remember who runs the Cowboys front office.

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