Mike Zimmer's use of Newman

[YosemiteSam]

I brought this up in a different thread, but nobody responded and I haven't seen anyone talk about it.

Newman is supposed to be one of the best CBs in the league yet last night it always played 7 yards off the receiver. Even when the Cowboys blitzed and you are supposed to bump the receiver so they can't use quick timing routes to beat the blitz. Henry was playing tight most of the night yet I never saw Newman play tight. I saw him pull up tight only to backoff before the snap. I saw a third down converstion on quick slant timing play because Newman was playing off 7 yards off the receiver. Why would you ever play off like that on a big third down?

Zimmer is a great 4-3 defensive coach, but from what I've seen on defense this year. He has major holes in how he runs a 3-4. You don't put gas in a diesel engine. I think we need to get a defensive coordinator that knows how to run a 3-4 defense. Even as a 4-3 coach, you should know better than to not play bump and run (jamming the receiver) when you are blitzing with a rush greater than 5 rushers...

 

[Yeagermeister]

Zimmer is a great 4-3 defensive coach

When did this happen? He's terrible.

 

[YosemiteSam]

When did this happen? He's terrible.

Cowboys had the NFL's best overall defense in 2003. Zimmer was the defensive coordinator and has been since 2000.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm more impressed with how Anthony Henry plays, T. Newman needs to start playing with better football awareness!

 

[AdamJT13]

I saw a third down converstion on quick slant timing play because Newman was playing off 7 yards off the receiver. Why would you ever play off like that on a big third down?

Newman didn't give up any catches on third down. Henry gave up two of them, but neither of them were quick slants. In fact, the Giants' wide receivers caught only six passes all night, and none of them were slants.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm more impressed with how Anthony Henry plays, T. Newman needs to start playing with better football awareness!

Remember, there are two sides to every coin. If the coordinator doesn't put the player in position to suceed, he won't. Not that Newman didn't misplay that long play yesterday. It's like Roy Williams. If you stick him at free safety, he will stink. Put in close to the line of scrimage and he can dominate a game.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Newman didn't give up any catches on third down. Henry gave up two of them, but neither of them were quick slants. In fact, the Giants' wide receivers caught only six passes all night, and none of them were slants.

You are right, it was a second down play that went for 1st down. There were actually two that Newman gave up, but the second one was Eli ended up rolling out.

2-9-DAL33 (5:44) E.Manning pass short right to A.Toomer to DAL 23 for 10 yards (T.Newman).

 

[ravidubey]

Newman never looked back on that play, even though the ball was well-placed on Burress' outside shoulder Newman could have at least tried to make a play on the ball. This seems to happen in every important game-- a big play on Newman at the wrong time.

From the start, Henry should have mostly been covering Burress and Newman should have been on Toomer. This would negate Toomer and they could have occasionally rotated help towards Burress.

The Watkins/Williams combo has become a joke vs. deep passes. I know they were excellent passes on each occasion, but Williams has to get in position.

Manning is throwing to Burress even when he's covered, so Newman isn't the right matchup on Burress.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Newman never looked back on that play, even though the ball was well-placed on Burress' outside shoulder Newman could have at least tried to make a play on the ball. This seems to happen in every important game-- a big play on Newman at the wrong time.

From the start, Henry should have mostly been covering Burress and Newman should have been on Toomer. This would negate Toomer and they could have occasionally rotated help towards Burress.

The Watkins/Williams combo has become a joke vs. deep passes. I know they were excellent passes on each occasion, but Williams has to get in position.

Manning is throwing to Burress even when he's covered, so Newman isn't the right matchup on Burress.

Burress was held to (2) catches. Problem is they were both BIG plays. 1 being a 50 yard TD.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I think that is one reason why the Cowboys have not resigned Zimmer to a contract extension.

He is a great 4-3 defensive coordinator, which we were # 1 on defense in 2003.

But he is not a 3-4 defensive coordinator. Look at the Commanders or Giants last night, or the Eagles even. They have stunted, blitzed, etc, and sacked us like crazy, yet we cant hardly get QB pressure with our 3-4 defense.

 

[TheEnigma]

Newman never looked back on that play, even though the ball was well-placed on Burress' outside shoulder Newman could have at least tried to make a play on the ball. This seems to happen in every important game-- a big play on Newman at the wrong time.

Actually, he did look back on that play. He looked back but couldn't find the ball in the air because as he was looking back the ball was coming into Burress' arms. I even remember the announcers commenting on him looking back but not seeing the ball.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Actually, he did look back on that play. He looked back but couldn't find the ball in the air because as he was looking back the ball was coming into Burress' arms. I even remember the announcers commenting on him looking back but not seeing the ball.

He turned the wrong way. He was looking into the field instead of the sideline.

 

[JPM]

Well placed, that was a perfect pass by Eli.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I think that is one reason why the Cowboys have not resigned Zimmer to a contract extension.

He is a great 4-3 defensive coordinator, which we were # 1 on defense in 2003.

But he is not a 3-4 defensive coordinator. Look at the Commanders or Giants last night, or the Eagles even. They have stunted, blitzed, etc, and sacked us like crazy, yet we cant hardly get QB pressure with our 3-4 defense.

It would be nice if we could get a real 3-4 dc like LeBeau

 

[AdamJT13]

You are right, it was a second down play that went for 1st down. There were actually two that Newman gave up, but the second one was Eli ended up rolling out.

2-9-DAL33 (5:44) E.Manning pass short right to A.Toomer to DAL 23 for 10 yards (T.Newman).

That wasn't a quick slant. It was a 10-yard curl, and both cornerbacks were playing 5 yards off the ball.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Zimmer is a great 4-3 defensive coach, but from what I've seen on defense this year. He has major holes in how he runs a 3-4.

Zimmer was never a great def. coordinator. Where do you guys get this kind of info?

2003 is 2003. Our defense wasn't great that year either and so was Zimmer.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Zimmer was never a great def. coordinator. Where do you guys get this kind of info?

2003 is 2003. Our defense wasn't great that year either and so was Zimmer.

Really?

2003 Regular Season Overall Defense


That year the Cowboys went 10-6 because of that defense.

 

[Paniolo22]

Newman never looked back on that play, even though the ball was well-placed on Burress' outside shoulder Newman could have at least tried to make a play on the ball. This seems to happen in every important game-- a big play on Newman at the wrong time.

From the start, Henry should have mostly been covering Burress and Newman should have been on Toomer. This would negate Toomer and they could have occasionally rotated help towards Burress.

The Watkins/Williams combo has become a joke vs. deep passes. I know they were excellent passes on each occasion, but Williams has to get in position.

Manning is throwing to Burress even when he's covered, so Newman isn't the right matchup on Burress.

Newman didn't have a chance on Burress over the shoulder catch.

 

[Frozen700]

ok so newman gave up 1 big play...on sumbody who has a 7 inch advantage on him..especially when the ball is thrown perfectly

he made up for it..with the INT tho

 

[StanleySpadowski]

That wasn't a quick slant. It was a 10-yard curl, and both cornerbacks were playing 5 yards off the ball.

Please stop confusing the mob with facts and get more torches lit.




The play he's probably referring to was a slant to Burress that Manning made a bad throw on. It was incomplete but a decent pass would have been a first down and Newman was a few yards off.