Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Story on Jones Gambling on players

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Don't shoot the messenger. Found this article tonight on the Journal Sentinel Website. I will say as a Packer fan I wish Ted Thompson would take a risk every now and then in regard to trading a draft choice or taking a flyer on a player like the Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyders or the world but he just goes to the beat of a different drummer. Anyway, here is the article

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=807376

Cowboys owner’s bets are off

Jones’ gambling sets team back



Posted: Oct. 17, 2008



As the expression goes, “Everything is bigger in Texas.”
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones lives the mantra. From his new football stadium to the way he has constructed his team, Jones operates in a manner that says, “The bigger the risk, the bigger the payoff.” If it’s not risky, it’s not worth doing to Jones. It worked wonders for him in business, as his oil and land company helped make him a billionaire.

But that gambling approach has not translated well to his football team. Sure, the Cowboys were the team of the 1990s, when they won three Super Bowls in four years. But that was a much different time in the league. The Cowboys won two of their championships (’92 and ’93) before the salary cap was introduced in 1994. The third came the next year.

As the league has learned the ins and outs of life under the salary cap, Jones’ gambling ways have fallen more out of style than Zubaz. It doesn’t pay to be bold any longer. Slow, steady and calculating has become the method for winning championships. All the teams that have won the Lombardi Trophy in the past decade have been built that way.

But here we are in 2008 and Jones, who has personnel control, is still swinging for the fences. And missing.

From 1997-2006, the Cowboys were a combined 73-87. They have won one division title (in ’07) since 1998. They have not been to a conference championship since ’95. That was the last year Dallas was in a Super Bowl as well.

The persona of the Cowboys has not matched up with the on-field product. The Cowboys have been portrayed as the New York Yankees over the last 15 years. In fact, the Minnesota Vikings (96-80) had 23 more victories than the Cowboys from 1997-2006.

The trade for Detroit Lions receiver Roy Williams this week was just the latest in a line of risky moves that will likely put the Cowboys further off track from winning a championship.

Not only did Jones give up first- and third-round picks for Williams, who has questionable hands and just one 1,000-yard season in five-plus seasons, but Jones handed Williams a five-year contract extension with $20 million in guaranteed money. That will surely ruffle the feathers of problem-child receiver Terrell Owens.

The Williams deal echoes the colossal blunder Jones made in 2000, when he traded two first-round picks to the Seattle Seahawks for receiver Joey Galloway, who never had more than 908 yards in four forgettable years in Dallas. But the Seahawks were in the Super Bowl in 2005 thanks, in part, to that deal.

Galloway is just one in a long line of recent acquisitions who haven’t panned out for Jones: quarterbacks Drew Henson (cost a first-round pick), Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter; offensive lineman Marco Rivera; wide receiver Terry Glenn; linebackers Kevin Hardy and Bobby Carpenter; defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban; and running back Anthony Thomas.
And then there’s cornerback Adam Jones, who, predictably, was indefinitely suspended by the league again this week for his off-field behavior.
That’s not to say Jerry Jones hasn’t improved as general manager. He has.

The Cowboys are finally near Super Bowl level because of the moves he made. But it’s his big, risky — and mostly unneeded — moves that ultimately cost his teams championships, and likely will again this season.

The Cowboys were good last season. They had talent all over the field, as evidenced by their 13 players selected for the Pro Bowl. There was no reason to bring in an Adam Jones or trade for a Roy Williams.

Could the Cowboys be better with both of them? Yes, without question. But considering where the Cowboys were, was the risk worth it? No. And that’s what Jerry Jones has not learned and perhaps never will.

In the NFL, the bigger risk often leads to the biggest failures.
 

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I think we all agree here that Pacman was a WIN-WIN situation for us...

He turns the corner, he becomes a stud CB for us for years to come.

He screws up again, we end up netting 2 2nd day picks from the Titans.(one of which we used on the Roy11 trade)
 

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Drew Henson didn't cost us a first. Rivera played well for awhile. Terry Glenn was about as positive a trade as it gets. Bambie looks like a bust to be nice. Ekuban was better than we thought but still not worth a first. That's hardly a failure. There's no fair way to judge the Galloway signing. He was bought to give Troy a run at a SB. He got hurt game 1 first season. He may have brought us a championship. Not saying he would but you can't call that a failure. It just didn't work out with him gone week one year one at that cost. I have never seen such sloppy reporting.

Embrace the Hatred
 

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jobberone;2349811 said:
Drew Henson didn't cost us a first. Rivera played well for awhile. Terry Glenn was about as positive a trade as it gets. Bambie looks like a bust to be nice. Ekuban was better than we thought but still not worth a first. That's hardly a failure. There's no fair way to judge the Galloway signing. He was bought to give Troy a run at a SB. He got hurt game 1 first season. He may have brought us a championship. Not saying he would but you can't call that a failure. It just didn't work out with him gone week one year one at that cost. I have never seen such sloppy reporting.

Embrace the Hatred

Rivera and Bambie were also Parcells picks. IF Tuna had properly picked the RG position in the '03 draft(i.e. Stephen Pedermen), it would have never gotten down to diving into the FA market.
 

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Boysboy;2349817 said:
Rivera and Bambie were also Parcells picks. IF Tuna had properly picked the RG position in the '03 draft(i.e. Stephen Pedermen), it would have never gotten down to diving into the FA market.

And you are right.
 

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Boysboy;2349817 said:
Rivera and Bambie were also Parcells picks. IF Tuna had properly picked the RG position in the '03 draft(i.e. Stephen Pedermen), it would have never gotten down to diving into the FA market.
Bambie as in Roy? Parcells didn't draft him
 

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Why do people who write that Jones is building the wrong way conveniently forget that we had two first-round draft picks this year and that Jones stockpiled picks in next year's draft?

They blast him for taking big risks, but then don't look at the actual risk taken.

Shoddy reporting continues to be rampant.
 

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Rampage;2349823 said:
hey packer fan, why do you keep posting these articles?

So you might read it if you want to? I doubt the MJS is in the mainstream of Cowboy reading material.
 

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FloridaRob;2349849 said:
So you might read it if you want to? I doubt the MJS is in the mainstream of Cowboy reading material.
do you agree with this article and the one like it you posted the other day?
 

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Rampage;2349854 said:
do you agree with this article and the one like it you posted the other day?

I said in my opening remarks that I wish TT had a little more of Jerry Jones in him in taking a risk. I really don't have an opinion one way or the other on it. I can say I would not be happy with TT if he gave a 1, 3 and 6 to the Lions for Roy Williams. I have watched him play the Packers twice a year since he has been in the league and I just don't see him as a difference maker. Whatever problems the Cowboys might have this year are not really because of the WR play. TO, Barber, and Romo are the new Cowboy triplets and are more than capable of giving the Cowboys enough offense to get to the Super Bowl especiallly when you add Witten.

The other article was by Andrew Brandt who was fired by the Packers. It definetely proved that Jones was not going to let Rivera out of Dallas without signing him at any cost and probably way over paid him. Again, I was glad at the time the Packers did not give Marco 9 million guaranteed. Of course Ted Thompson has done a poor job replacing Marco since he let him walk but that is another story.

Again, the article I posted was just to provide an insight to how other writers might view what happens in Dallas. Maybe the same type of article is written in the Dallas Papers. I don't know. Just FYI. Nothing more.
 

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And our picks of OL have gone so well the last 10 years. Outside of Gurode and the Hotel who have we picked under any coach that has done well?
Now as regards FA Rivera was a good pick that got injured; Kosier has been better then everyone including myself has thought; Bigg goes without Saying; and Colombo was absolute grand theft. So frankly FA has been MUCH more successful by FAR then our draft of OL.
 

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FloridaRob;2349895 said:
I said in my opening remarks that I wish TT had a little more of Jerry Jones in him in taking a risk. I really don't have an opinion one way or the other on it. I can say I would not be happy with TT if he gave a 1, 3 and 6 to the Lions for Roy Williams. I have watched him play the Packers twice a year since he has been in the league and I just don't see him as a difference maker. Whatever problems the Cowboys might have this year are not really because of the WR play. TO, Barber, and Romo are the new Cowboy triplets and are more than capable of giving the Cowboys enough offense to get to the Super Bowl especiallly when you add Witten.

The other article was by Andrew Brandt who was fired by the Packers. It definetely proved that Jones was not going to let Rivera out of Dallas without signing him at any cost and probably way over paid him. Again, I was glad at the time the Packers did not give Marco 9 million guaranteed. Of course Ted Thompson has done a poor job replacing Marco since he let him walk but that is another story.

Again, the article I posted was just to provide an insight to how other writers might view what happens in Dallas. Maybe the same type of article is written in the Dallas Papers. I don't know. Just FYI. Nothing more.
I think people need to hold on about whether we overpayed for him. If we win a superbowl in the next few years or maybe even this year those people who said we overpayed could be changing their tune or even eating some crow. bottom line It's too early to tell.
 

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burmafrd;2349913 said:
And our picks of OL have gone so well the last 10 years. Outside of Gurode and the Hotel who have we picked under any coach that has done well?
Now as regards FA Rivera was a good pick that got injured; Kosier has been better then everyone including myself has thought; Bigg goes without Saying; and Colombo was absolute grand theft. So frankly FA has been MUCH more successful by FAR then our draft of OL.

I think our young guys like Free and McQ(both draft picks, of course) have alot of potential.

IF Columbo ends up walking next year(you can bet Belichick will go after him), IF McQ is ready, I wouldn't mind him stepping in.

With that being said, I hope we use some of our '09 picks on OL.
 

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FloridaRob;2349802 said:
Polk County Florida Sheriff Grady Judd when asked why his Swat Team shot a suspected Cop Killer 68 times answered, "That's all the bullets we had."

How can I vote for Grady Judd??

ROTFLMAO...
 

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FloridaRob;2349895 said:
I said in my opening remarks that I wish TT had a little more of Jerry Jones in him in taking a risk. I really don't have an opinion one way or the other on it. I can say I would not be happy with TT if he gave a 1, 3 and 6 to the Lions for Roy Williams. I have watched him play the Packers twice a year since he has been in the league and I just don't see him as a difference maker. Whatever problems the Cowboys might have this year are not really because of the WR play. TO, Barber, and Romo are the new Cowboy triplets and are more than capable of giving the Cowboys enough offense to get to the Super Bowl especiallly when you add Witten.

The other article was by Andrew Brandt who was fired by the Packers. It definetely proved that Jones was not going to let Rivera out of Dallas without signing him at any cost and probably way over paid him. Again, I was glad at the time the Packers did not give Marco 9 million guaranteed. Of course Ted Thompson has done a poor job replacing Marco since he let him walk but that is another story.

Again, the article I posted was just to provide an insight to how other writers might view what happens in Dallas. Maybe the same type of article is written in the Dallas Papers. I don't know. Just FYI. Nothing more.

It should be pretty clear to anyone really paying attention that the move to get Roy 11 is not just a move for this year. Its an attempt at insurance in case TO gets hurt this season and more importantly to have a replacement for TO in the coming years.
Maybe Roy 11 isn't all that. Or maybe he is all that and elevates his game like Moss did after getting out of Oakland. (Remember there was a time when Moss wasn't considered a top tier WR anymore after his game went away in Oakland.) We just don't know yet what he is capable of when playing with much better talent than he was with in Detroit.
The rest of Jerruh's clunker FA moves aren't really any worse than any other GMs moves. He is just higher profile so when he stubs his toe it gets a lot more attention.
And Dallas' cold streak of the past 11 seasons has yet to equal the depths of mediocrity/bottom feeding the Packers were in from the early '70s until the early '90s.
 
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