Miscellaneous Notes regarding NFL Europe

gollum

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feel free to add comments or observations:

Each team currently has 47-48 players now with another 16 expected to be assigned later. 246 players have been allocated by NFL teams of the 302 players.

# of allocated players per NFL team:
15 - Oakland
14 - Detroit, NY Giants
12 - Houston
11 - Kansas City, San Francisco
10 - Carolina, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle, Tampa Bay
9 - Philadelphia
8 - Atlanta, Buffalo, San Diego, Washington
7 - Indianapolis, New England, NY Jets
6 - Arizona, Cleveland, Denver, Miami, Tennessee
5 - New Orleans
4 - Baltimore, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Minnesota
3 - Dallas, St Louis

35 players were drafted by NFL teams:
Amsterdam 6 (1 4th, 2 5th, 1 6th, 2 7th rounders)
Berlin 3 ( 3 7th rounders)
Cologne 6 (1 2nd(Eddie Freeman-KC), 1 4th, 1 5th, 1 6th, 2 7th rounders)
Frankfurt 5 (2 6th, 3 7th rounders)
Hamburg 7 (2 5th, 1 6th, 4 7th rounders)
Rhein 5 (1 4th, 1 5th, 1 6th(Drew Henson), 2 7th rounders)...I counted Drew as a 6th rounder because that is when he was actually drafted even though we gave Houston a 3rd for him.
Unallocated as of yet 3 - all kickers

Europe teams with Heavy concentration of single NFL team's players:
Amsterdam has 4 players each from Green Bay and NY Giants.
Berlin has 4 players each from Atlanta, Houston, and NY Giants.
Cologne has 4 players each from Carolina and Detroit.
Frankfurt has 4 players from the NY Jets(2 from Dallas - T. Crowder and L. Williams).
Hamburg has 4 players each from KC and Oakland.
Rhein has 6 players from San Francisco to help Drew out :eek:

My next observation may be a stretch to predict the overall talent on each roster, but more times than not(that means greater than 50%), a reserve from a winning program is better than a reserve from a non-winning program due to better overall talent, competition, or coaching. While this is not always true, I'd rather take the reserves from a program such as USC than from the reserves from Baylor(not picking on you Bear alums, just using an example). I'm also assuming that these players allocated to NFLE are reserves who received little or no playing time this past year. With that said, here are the average winning percentages of the NFL teams the players were allocated from:
Cologne .517
Hamburg .515
Amsterdam .497
Berlin .463
Frankfurt .454
Rhein .454

My predictions:

Amsterdam has nine players of whom I'm familiar with, four of those being on the defensive line which should be the strongest in the league. QB may be their achilles heel though, but they do have a few serviceable complimentary parts to go around that position...record 6-4.

Berlin only has six players I'm familiar with and not much talent overall from what I can tell, comparitively speaking. Offensive line looks to be their strong point, but they may suffer defensively...record 3-7.

Cologne has twelve players I'm familiar with and will challege for the championship. They should have a good offense if their offensive line can be effective with a good running game and passing potential. Defense will be solid as well...record 7-3.

Frankfurt has ten players I'm familiar with and should have a strong offensive line and linebacking corp. Their running backs and wide receivers don't appear to be strong enough however to help out Ochs at QB....record 3-7.

Hamburg has ten players I'm familiar wtih a strong offensive line, secondary, and quarterback duo in Berlin and Kilian. I don't know if they'll be able to hold up against the run however as their D-line and linebacking group are suspect...record 5-5.

Rhein has seventeen players I'm familiar with, including the NFL Europe's poster boy, Drew Henson. He and Timothy Chang make up the league's best potential quarterbacking duo and have decent, speedy talent to throw the ball to. They have good tackles and centers, and an above average secondary, but their interior D-line and linebacking corp are suspect. The running game is also a mystery with DeCori Birmingham looking to be the lead back...record 6-4.

World Bowl XIV: Cologne 30 Rhein 24
 

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I was curious to see how many players the Super Bowl contenders from the last 2 years had allocated. Pittsburgh is missing from your list. Did they not allocate any?

Quite a discrepency between Dallas and Oakland. A bit of an eye opener in fact. I had no idea some teams wer sending that many players.

Nice job and a very interesting read. Shows how some teams look to develop players.

Sure is a lot of 49ers players on Rhein.
 

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Hostile said:
I was curious to see how many players the Super Bowl contenders from the last 2 years had allocated. Pittsburgh is missing from your list. Did they not allocate any?

According to NFLE homepage(accessed through nfl.com), they didn't allocated any...I hadn't noticed that. At first I thought it was because they were still playing, but Seattle allocated 10 already. I don't think they have to allocate any, but last year they allocated 12 players and the Seahawks allocated 6. Dallas allocated 4 I believe...Kincade, Dantzler, Blade, and DeRonde.
 

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I did find this article from Jan 3 of this year on their website:

"NFLEL Players in NFL Playoffs List - 2005 season:

AFC

Indianapolis Colts (4)
Kory Chapman RB Cologne 2005 Roster
Jose Cortez K Amsterdam 2000 Roster
Bryan Fletcher TE Berlin 2003-2004 Roster
Tom Arth QB Scotland 2004/Hamburg 2005 PS

Denver Broncos (13)
Charlie Adams WR Rhein 2003 Roster
Todd Devoe WR Cologne 2004 Roster
Nick Ferguson S Rhein 1999-2000 Roster
Cornell Green T Scotland 2000 Roster
Louis Green LB Amsterdam 2003 Roster
Ben Hamilton C Berlin 2002 Roster
Nate Jackson WR Rhein 2004 Roster
Matt Lepsis T Barcelona 1999 Roster
Josh Buhl LB Berlin 2005 PS
Corey Jackson DE Frankfurt 2004 PS
Brandon Miree FB Rhein 2005 PS
Patrice Majondo-Mwamba DT Rhein 2005 PS
Chris Young S Frankfurt 2003 IR

Jacksonville Jaguars (6)
Deke Cooper S Rhein 2001-2002 Roster
Tony Gilbert LB Rhein 2005 Roster
Quinn Gray QB Frankfurt 2003 Roster
Chris Hanson P Barcelona 2000 Roster
Paul Spicer DE Frankfurt 2001 Roster
Nate Hybl QB Scotland 2004 PS

Cincinnati Bengals (3)
Jon Kitna QB Barcelona 1997 Roster
Anthony Mitchell S Rhein 2000 Roster
Carl Powell DE Rhein 1999-2000 Roster

Pittsburgh Steelers (3)
James Harrison LB Rhein 2004 Roster
Sean Morey WR Barcelona 2000-01, 2003 Roster
Ulish Booker T Amsterdam 2005 PS

New England Patriots (1)
Adam Vinatieri K Amsterdam 1996 Roster

NFC

Seattle Seahawks (4)
Kelly Herndon CB Barcelona 2000 Roster
Tom Rouen P Ohio 1992 Roster
William Henry T Frankfurt 2005 PS
Joey Hollenbeck C Amsterdam 2004 IR
Mike Harden CB Berlin 2005 Roster

Chicago Bears (6)
Brendon Ayanbadejo LB Amsterdam 2002 Roster
Lennie Friedman G Barcelona 2000 Roster
John Gilmore TE Amsterdam 2002 Roster
Israel Idonije DE Berlin 2004 Roster
Anthony Oakley G Frankfurt 2005 PS
Marcus Reese LB Cologne 2004 IR

Carolina Panthers (3)
Jake Delhomme QB Amsterdam 1999/Frankfurt 2000 Roster
Dave Kadela T Berlin 2004 Roster
Jamal Robertson RB Rhein 2002 Roster

New York Giants (3)
Tim Hasselbeck QB Berlin 2002 Roster
Lewis Kelly G Frankfurt 2002 Roster
Michael Jennings WR Berlin 2005 PS

Washington Commanders (5)
Demetric Evans DE Cologne 2004 Roster
Cedric Killings DT Rhein 2004 Roster
Jim Jones G Rhein 2003 PS
Nick McNeil LB Hamburg 2005 PS
Brandon Noble DT Barcelona 1998-1999 IR

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (5)
Blue Adams CB Rhein 2005 Roster
Matt Bryant K Frankfurt 2002 Roster
Kalvin Pearson S Frankfurt 2003 Roster
Edell Shepherd WR Scotland 2004 Roster
Claudius Osei S Hamburg 2005 PS"
 

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gollum said:
According to NFLE homepage(accessed through nfl.com), they didn't allocated any...I hadn't noticed that. At first I thought it was because they were still playing, but Seattle allocated 10 already. I don't think they have to allocate any, but last year they allocated 12 players and the Seahawks allocated 6. Dallas allocated 4 I believe...Kincade, Dantzler, Blade, and DeRonde.
Thanks for the hard work. It was a very interesting read.
 

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I'll be pissed if Henson can't start over Timmy Chang, man I wish we could get that third rounder back.
 

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Well I, for one, am worried. The Fire also drafted Tommy Chang, QB from University of Hawaii. They're almost sure to rotate QBs this year, which would be very frustrating (both for Henson and for us).
 

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Well I, for one, am worried. The Fire also drafted Tommy Chang, QB from University of Hawaii. They're almost sure to rotate QBs this year, which would be very frustrating (both for Henson and for us).
If they split snaps, we should dump Henson as soon as possible. Chang onl has a chance as a West Coast QB, he's a p**** in the back field and gets hurt often. Timmy "No Heart" Chang. Henson HAS to beat him OUT RIGHT!!!
 

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Alot of the time in NFLE, QB's do end up splitting snaps from what I remember. I like having Chang on the team, gives Henson someone to compete with. I don't want a fraud, if he can't get it done then we know we have to look elswhere.
 

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If they split snaps, we should dump Henson as soon as possible. Chang onl has a chance as a West Coast QB, he's a p**** in the back field and gets hurt often. Timmy "No Heart" Chang. Henson HAS to beat him OUT RIGHT!!!

Even if he beats him outright, they still have to share snaps. At least like 80-20 or 90-10, cause there is reason their teams send them to NFL Europe.

In my opinion, at first there might be more sharing of snaps but as season goes along, if history holds true, Timmy "Interception" Chang should give way to Henson completely. I don't have any doubts about that. Henson was at least in running for Backup job last year, even when he was clearly way behind Romo after being the backup the first year. From all indications, he is getting back to form, so I don't see that much of an issue.
 
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