Mistake-free Dak

jwitten82 · Nov 26, 2016

ChldsPlay said:
What same line? The 2015 line was not the same as either 2014 or 2016.

And terrible QBs are still terrible, even with protection.

The only one different on the line last year was Collins, and please dont act like he was some scrub. The line was good last year

Kevinicus · Nov 26, 2016

jwitten82 said:
The only one different on the line last year was Collins, and please dont act like he was some scrub. The line was good last year

It was good, but it's a much better unit with Leary. Much better. Collins still has a long way to go.

Add in Zeke and it's better still.

tyke1doe · Nov 26, 2016

Oh_Canada said:
Wow-someone didn't tell that to the four guys quarterbacking last year.

Or when Dak has had to avoid blitzes and hit guys in stride or put it where only they can catch it.

tyke1doe · Nov 26, 2016

ChldsPlay said:
What same line? The 2015 line was not the same as either 2014 or 2016.

The same line that got Darren McFadden 1,000 yards with less than a full season? :huh:

And terrible QBs are still terrible, even with protection.

So you're saying Dak is far from a terrible QB? :grin:

WillieBeamen · Nov 26, 2016

SDCowboy85 said:
Same. I'm a huge fan, but the guy scared the hell out of me.

As Great as he is/was, every throw made me nervous lol. With Dak, im calm lol

Animosity · Nov 26, 2016

Super_Kazuya said:
"This just in, dink and dunk game manager who is always ahead, has the best run game and OL in the league, and never takes chances to the point where open receivers routinely streak downfield ignored -- doesn't make many mistakes."
"Coming up in the 8 o'clock segment: water is wet."

You act like dink and dunk is bad. Brady is known for doing that, and he is the greatest QB to ever play the game.

While other QBs are gunslingers/turnover prone QBs and have 2 wildcard playoff wins.

THEHEREAFTER · Nov 26, 2016

Super_Kazuya said:
"This just in, dink and dunk game manager who is always ahead, has the best run game and OL in the league, and never takes chances to the point where open receivers routinely streak downfield ignored -- doesn't make many mistakes."
"Coming up in the 8 o'clock segment: water is wet."

I don't believe you're this bitter, jaded, ignorant and miserable. I just refuse.

THEHEREAFTER · Nov 26, 2016

ChldsPlay said:
What same line? The 2015 line was not the same as either 2014 or 2016.

And terrible QBs are still terrible, even with protection.

Ok so the line was the same and we're getting somewhere. Dak isn't "terrible".. progress I suppose... SMH....

jwitten82 · Nov 26, 2016

THEHEREAFTER said:
I don't believe you're this bitter, jaded, ignorant and miserable. I just refuse.

That guy wants Dak to fail so bad. I cant wait til Romo leaves so he can go along with him

Direwolf63 · Nov 26, 2016

GIFTS86 said:
question say you take away our o-line and put in a bad o-line how do you think dak would perform then? I know it's a what if just curious what you guys think

Well Dak got Mississippi State to the #1 ranking with a terrible offensive line.

Super_Kazuya · Nov 26, 2016

Animosity said:
You act like dink and dunk is bad. Brady is known for doing that, and he is the greatest QB to ever play the game.

I never said dink and dunk was bad. Brady has proven that he can play many different styles. When he had 50 TD passes and Randy Moss, he was not exactly the same as he is now. Admittedly the deep pass he used to do well has left him in recent times. But he's proven over the years he can make all of the throws.
Dak is just a dink and dunk guy. Despite having more time to throw than any QB in the league, he never lets the deep routes develop, he just checks it down. He's a game manager... that doesn't mean that a half dozen times per game when they need him to make a key throw or run that he doesn't deliver. That's what Alex Smith has been doing for years. Alex Smith is working on 6 years in a row averaging less than 6 interceptions per season, but still making just enough plays to keep his team going. It's not hard to avoid mistakes if you never take chances.

THEHEREAFTER · Nov 26, 2016

ChldsPlay said:
It was good, but it's a much better unit with Leary. Much better. Collins still has a long way to go.

Add in Zeke and it's better still.

Dude you're reaching hard... so hard and it's sad. Give the man some credit. He's playing solid "clean" winning football and he's a rookie. Complimentary Dak thread and the most notorious resident HATERS swoop in like vultures in unison. Unbelievable.

THEHEREAFTER · Nov 26, 2016

Super_Kazuya said:
I never said dink and dunk was bad. Brady has proven that he can play many different styles. When he had 50 TD passes and Randy Moss, he was not exactly the same as he is now. Admittedly the deep pass he used to do well has left him in recent times. But he's proven over the years he can make all of the throws.
Dak is just a dink and dunk guy. Despite having more time to throw than any QB in the league, he never lets the deep routes develop, he just checks it down. He's a game manager... that doesn't mean that a half dozen times per game when they need him to make a key throw or run that he doesn't deliver. That's what Alex Smith has been doing for years. Alex Smith is working on 6 years in a row averaging less than 6 interceptions per season, but still making just enough plays to keep his team going. It's not hard to avoid mistakes if you never take chances.

You're exaggerating. You can't win without making some down the field "stick" throws and he made several Thursday. No mention of those? He's managing the game well and he's a rookie. Nobody in the history of this franchise has won 10 straight in a single season. If you're ONLY game is to dink and dunk the defense would collapse to the point of suffocation. Just go away. Far far away...

jwitten82 · Nov 26, 2016

Super_Kazuya said:
I never said dink and dunk was bad. Brady has proven that he can play many different styles. When he had 50 TD passes and Randy Moss, he was not exactly the same as he is now. Admittedly the deep pass he used to do well has left him in recent times. But he's proven over the years he can make all of the throws.
Dak is just a dink and dunk guy. Despite having more time to throw than any QB in the league, he never lets the deep routes develop, he just checks it down. He's a game manager... that doesn't mean that a half dozen times per game when they need him to make a key throw or run that he doesn't deliver. That's what Alex Smith has been doing for years. Alex Smith is working on 6 years in a row averaging less than 6 interceptions per season, but still making just enough plays to keep his team going. It's not hard to avoid mistakes if you never take chances.

You keep comparing him to Alex Smith, the most yards Smith has ever thrown for is 3,486 and most td's he has ever thrown for is 23. Dak is on pace to beat those

Kevinicus · Nov 26, 2016

tyke1doe said:
The same line that got Darren McFadden 1,000 yards with less than a full season?

No, it's not the same line, it's much better.

So you're saying Dak is far from a terrible QB?

Barring a crazy fluke Nick Foles season, yes, he is.

Kevinicus · Nov 26, 2016

THEHEREAFTER said:
Dude you're reaching hard... so hard and it's sad. Give the man some credit. He's playing solid "clean" winning football and he's a rookie. Complimentary Dak thread and the most notorious resident HATERS swoop in like vultures in unison. Unbelievable.

I am reaching to say this is the best line in the league and they make his job much easier? It's reaching to suggest otherwise. I am not criticizing Dak.

Kevinicus · Nov 26, 2016

THEHEREAFTER said:
Ok so the line was the same and we're getting somewhere. Dak isn't "terrible".. progress I suppose... SMH....

Line still wasn't the same. Check the facts.

I never suggested Dak was terrible (except for specific stretches). I never suggested he wasn't good either.

tyke1doe · Nov 26, 2016

ChldsPlay said:
No, it's not the same line, it's much better.

But is that because of Dak or inspite of Dak? This seems to be the "Did Emmitt play behind a great offensive line or did Emmitt make the offensive line great" debate.

Barring a crazy fluke Nick Foles season, yes, he is.

Fair enough. I'm not going to knock you for being cautious. I understand the enthusiasm fans - including myself - have with respect to Dak. I can also understand why fans (and, yes, I believe you're a fan of the Cowboys. I'm not going to reduce your opposition to some silly notion that you're not a true fan like some do) like yourself are a bit more cautious. I respect that.

Kevinicus · Nov 26, 2016

jwitten82 said:
You keep comparing him to Alex Smith, the most yards Smith has ever thrown for is 3,486 and most td's he has ever thrown for is 23. Dak is on pace to beat those

I would say Dak is probably better as a rookie than Smith in his prime...however, Smith has never had a supporting cast close to this (offensively).

KJJ · Nov 26, 2016

Wilson was strictly a game manager his rookie season, not so for Dak who's carried the team on his shoulders on several occasions this season. Wilson had the Legion of Boom while we have the Legion of Doom.

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