MMQB - The Difference in Dallas

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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/06/15/dallas-cowboys-nfl-tony-romo-ezekiel-elliott

Accordingly, Jones won’t buy the notion that simply cutting Hardy out of the picture makes it 2014 again.

In fact, he doesn’t see Hardy as the bellwether for last year at all, the way some (even in his building) do. Dallas knew the decision to sign Hardy could go either way from the start—evidenced by the team protecting itself six ways from Sunday on Hardy’s one-year deal. The way everything else crumbled, to Jones, was worse.

“To me, the most disappointing thing was when Tony was out (collarbone) for seven games, we couldn’t find a way to win two or three of them,” he said. “Jason (Garrett) has focused on it, (offensive coordinator) Scott Linehan focused on it. If Tony misses six or seven games again, how do we win two or three football games? Were we competitive? Yes, but we didn’t finish those games.

“So if Tony were to go down for two or three weeks, we hope now we can salvage some games.”

Which is where prized rookie running back Ezekiel Elliott comes into the picture.

“It’s one reason why we invested in Ezekiel,” Jones concedes about the No. 4 overall pick out of Ohio State. “You look at it, and if you can help with your run game, you can do some things offensively that take pressure off the quarterback. That can help. We won without Tony before. (Jon) Kitna and (Kyle) Orton won games. It’s not like it’s something we haven’t done. Can you win them all? No. Can you win a championship without Tony? Probably not.

“But Zeke gives us a much better chance.”

If it seems like we’re all over the place here, that works to explain how all over the place the Cowboys’ problems were last season. Romo’s injury was compounded by Dez Bryant’s injury (foot), which made it easier for opponents to gang up on the running game, and negate the strength of the team—its offensive line. Then, the losses started piling up.

Hardy got off to a solid start, but according to those in the building, the ******** story that included graphic photos of his former girlfriend’s bruises sent the already less-then-stable star into a tailspin. He was drinking a lot. His behavior became more erratic. And with the team losing, the atmosphere at work wasn’t getting better, which only worsened the problem.

Now, if the Cowboys accomplish the objective here—as Jones says, “We’ve got to find a way play better without Tony”—what will it mean?
 

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Hardy is still in Dallas.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...l-running-around-dallas-according-fitness-app
 

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Not a fan of Jerry Jones at all. But I am glad....real glad..that he did not let Hardy become a scapegoat for last year. I am glad...real glad....that he let this coaching staff know that they should have found a way to win a few ball games. Cutting players for not wearing ties...and bringing Hardy into the principal's office for a stern talking too...does not absolve this highly paid head coach from the fact that he could not win a game without Romo. It was and is embarrassing. And it is good to know the owner felt the same way.
 

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Not a fan of Jerry Jones at all. But I am glad....real glad..that he did not let Hardy become a scapegoat for last year. I am glad...real glad....that he let this coaching staff know that they should have found a way to win a few ball games. Cutting players for not wearing ties...and bringing Hardy into the principal's office for a stern talking too...does not absolve this highly paid head coach from the fact that he could not win a game without Romo. It was and is embarrassing. And it is good to know the owner felt the same way.

Garrett didn't get to pick Romo's backups. That's on Jerrah.
 

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Garrett didn't get to pick Romo's backups. That's on Jerrah.

How do we know this? Here is what I do know....going into the season....Garrett said Weeden was the most improved player on the team. Who goes out of their way to prop up the backup QB...if they were blowing smoke? He gave Weeden a gameplan fit for a high school QB. That is NOT winning football. Teams all across the NFL last season...were winning games with their 2nd and even 3rd string QB....so Garrett is NOT going to be let off the hook because of what the fans think of Weeden. And then there is the fact that after Weeden was cut...he went to another team mid-season...and without the benefit of OTAs, training camp, preseason etc....found a way to win for Houston.

And let's also not forget...Matt Cassell has won double digit games in other places...so again...Jerry is well within his right to expect to win a couple of games without Romo. If that is not a reasonable expectation....then Garrett needs to give his paycheck to Romo.
 

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How do we know this? Here is what I do know....going into the season....Garrett said Weeden was the most improved player on the team. Who goes out of their way to prop up the backup QB...if they were blowing smoke? He gave Weeden a gameplan fit for a high school QB. That is NOT winning football. Teams all across the NFL last season...were winning games with their 2nd and even 3rd string QB....so Garrett is NOT going to be let off the hook because of what the fans think of Weeden. And then there is the fact that after Weeden was cut...he went to another team mid-season...and without the benefit of OTAs, training camp, preseason etc....found a way to win for Houston.

And let's also not forget...Matt Cassell has won double digit games in other places...so again...Jerry is well within his right to expect to win a couple of games without Romo. If that is not a reasonable expectation....then Garrett needs to give his paycheck to Romo.


Agree 100%. That season last year was on the coaches. Guys get inured. Its the coaches JOB to prepare and account and adjust for those situations. . They failed. They failed miserably....

and you're right, other teams did win games with backups......but don't mention that to some around here, they wont believe you. Its like they don't watch football or something....

I also think it exposed the Cowboys middle Tier guys........they aren't as good as we (including me) think they are or can be. And would be lucky to make other teams rosters....let alone play a significant role.
 

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Garrett didn't get to pick Romo's backups. That's on Jerrah.

Does it really matter who picked the backups? Jerry definitely picked the coach. That was the most horrendous job of coaching I've seen since being a Cowboy fan. And that says a lot, since most of us witnessed the Campo and Gailey years. There's no excuse for how lost this coaching staff looked in a lot of those games and I'm also glad Jerry FINALLY said something about it. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.....
 

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Not a fan of Jerry Jones at all. But I am glad....real glad..that he did not let Hardy become a scapegoat for last year. I am glad...real glad....that he let this coaching staff know that they should have found a way to win a few ball games. Cutting players for not wearing ties...and bringing Hardy into the principal's office for a stern talking too...does not absolve this highly paid head coach from the fact that he could not win a game without Romo. It was and is embarrassing. And it is good to know the owner felt the same way.

That's not remotely what I took from those comments.
 

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Now, if the Cowboys accomplish the objective here—as Jones says, “We’ve got to find a way play better without Tony”—what will it mean?
It will mean life without Romo doesn't have to translate into 4-12 seasons.

The Elliott pick isn't about "getting back to 2014" (a RB picked in the later rounds could have accomplished that). It isn't about "making the defense better" (a first-round defender or a trade down and a couple of defenders could have done that).

It's about being competitive without Romo. Not necessarily winning, because you need a legit QB and/or pass defense for that. But being competitive.
 

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It will mean life without Romo doesn't have to translate into 4-12 seasons.

The Elliott pick isn't about "getting back to 2014" (a RB picked in the later rounds could have accomplished that). It isn't about "making the defense better" (a first-round defender or a trade down and a couple of defenders could have done that).

It's about being competitive without Romo. Not necessarily winning, because you need a legit QB and/or pass defense for that. But being competitive.

I hear ya; But I do disagree somewhat. I think the pick was about trying to make a run for a SB in the next 2-3 years while Romo is here;
 

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I hear ya; But I do disagree somewhat. I think the pick was about trying to make a run for a SB in the next 2-3 years while Romo is here;
With a healthy Romo, the league's best run-blocking OL, and a below-average defense, you don't need the best RB in the draft.

But if your mindset is that Romo's next snap could be his last, the pick makes a lot more sense.
 

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With a healthy Romo, the league's best run-blocking OL, and a below-average defense, you don't need the best RB in the draft.

But if your mindset is that Romo's next snap could be his last, the pick makes a lot more sense.

Or you could look at it like this. Romo needs a top RB to stay healthy. The OL is not the best without a top RB, and our defense gets a ton better with a top RB!!!!
 

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With a healthy Romo, the league's best run-blocking OL, and a below-average defense, you don't need the best RB in the draft.

But if your mindset is that Romo's next snap could be his last, the pick makes a lot more sense.

And I get that. It makes sense....


I just don't think EE is much without an Elite QB(EE is just RB, A good one, but just a RB). I don't think any team can win without an experienced QB. Although, u know, I think Osweiller would've won with Denver last year...and there have been others that win a SB that aren't even Good QBs.....but for the most part ....No QB, no win. Doesn't matter how good the RB or Oline is.... now, if you got a defense....then yes, you can win. Denver last year comes to mind, and of course Ray Lewis Ravens, and the 85 Bears....Defense can Win. But you damn sure better have a legit Great Defense.....

I dunno..... I just got the feeling that when they selected EE at 4, they were going all-in on the Offense for these next few years. Otherwise....go D, that side of the ball needs a lot of new people..
 

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How do we know this? Here is what I do know....going into the season....Garrett said Weeden was the most improved player on the team. Who goes out of their way to prop up the backup QB...if they were blowing smoke? He gave Weeden a gameplan fit for a high school QB. That is NOT winning football. Teams all across the NFL last season...were winning games with their 2nd and even 3rd string QB....so Garrett is NOT going to be let off the hook because of what the fans think of Weeden. And then there is the fact that after Weeden was cut...he went to another team mid-season...and without the benefit of OTAs, training camp, preseason etc....found a way to win for Houston.

And let's also not forget...Matt Cassell has won double digit games in other places...so again...Jerry is well within his right to expect to win a couple of games without Romo. If that is not a reasonable expectation....then Garrett needs to give his paycheck to Romo.

Just saying, Garrett props up everyone. Especially the ones who need it. Like Weeden.

Maybe Garrett used Weeden to get Jerrah to sign on for Zeke. Ever think of that?
 

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Does it really matter who picked the backups? Jerry definitely picked the coach. That was the most horrendous job of coaching I've seen since being a Cowboy fan. And that says a lot, since most of us witnessed the Campo and Gailey years. There's no excuse for how lost this coaching staff looked in a lot of those games and I'm also glad Jerry FINALLY said something about it. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.....

The backups were not even the problem last year. The system installed in this team is older than Monte Kiffin.

Really, backups who couldnt play weren't the problem. Ok.

Is that you Jerrah?
 

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Nonsense! Anyone who thinks that Garrett had no input can lie to themselves, not anybody else. No team in the league operates that way.

Since Al Davis passed, Dallas may be the only one now.

It actually funny someone is willing to argue the opposite. For a while, nobody believed differently.
 

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Just saying, Garrett props up everyone. Especially the ones who need it. Like Weeden.

Maybe Garrett used Weeden to get Jerrah to sign on for Zeke. Ever think of that?

I completely disagree. You have to go out of your way to pick the BACK UP QB as the most improved player on the team. So I think Garrett said it because he meant it. Look at it this way....after all of the "issues" we had at backup QB last year...we enter this year with a guy who has never won a NFL game in his life. So you cannot convince me that Jerry is picking these guys or forcing coaches to talk these guys up. They coaches are the ones at practice every day....breaking down film every day....in the lockeroom every day. So I think Jerry is letting his coaches know...you can have WHOMEVER you want at backup QB...but I still expect to win some games if the starter goes down.
 
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