More Sean Taylor talk...

[silverbear]

According the Nunyo DeMasio, the Washington Post beat writer covering the Skins, a decision will be made today whether or not to indict Sean Taylor for the ATV incident...

He claims that Sean submitted a privately-administered polygraph exam that he supposedly passed... but he also says that a decision has already been made to indict the guy who took off after one of the alleged thieves with a baseball bat...

This suggests that the DA doesn't really believe Sean's claim that there was no gun and no baseball bat in his car... it also seems unlikely that the DA would choose not to go after Taylor, after indicting his friend... common sense tells me that not indicting Sean would create the appearance that the "celebrity" got away with it, while the "nobody" had to face the music... this would result in a veritable s***storm of negative publicity descending on that District Attorney (or whatever they call them down in Floydada)...

My hunch is the news is not gonna be good for Sean later today... I sure HOPE that's the way it goes, and not just because I'm a Cowboys fan...

 

[Om]

Well, this should make your day, then.

Taylor Charged

 

[silverbear]

Well, this should make your day, then.

Taylor Charged

Beat me to it, Om... for the full article, follow this link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/24/AR2005062400535.html

Now, to see if they can make the charges stick... color me dubious, since this is gonna boil down to one crowd of punks' word against another crowd of punks' word... wouldn't it be interesting if one of the neighbors dug out the ol' webcam while all this was goin' on?? LOL...

From what I've been able to see, most Skins fans have the right attitude about this-- if he's guilty, to h*ll with him... of course I'd expect y'all to be quite pleased if he's found innocent...

 

[Om]

SB,

If he's convicted, I'll be sorry to see a young man with an incredible gift essentially throw away a dream life over misplaced machismo. If he's found not guilty, or pleads down to avoid jail time, I'll be "quite pleased" only IF the young man pulls his head out of his arse as a result, and shows his employers that he understands he's been given a second chance both at life and by the team.

No joke. For me this is about more than what team the kid happens to play for.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

SB,

If he's convicted, I'll be sorry to see a young man with an incredible gift essentially throw away a dream life over misplaced machismo. If he's found not guilty, or pleads down to avoid jail time, I'll be "quite pleased" only IF the young man pulls his head out of his arse as a result, and shows his employers that he understands he's been given a second chance both at life and by the team.

No joke. For me this is about more than what team the kid happens to play for.

I second that, Om.

I've felt all along "celebrity" would not be to Taylor's advantage in this case. It's Florida, not Hollywood, and when new laws are established, especially when the impetus for them is public outcry, the tendency is initially much more towards the "letter" of the law than the "spirit". Having a dad who's in law enforcement only intensifies the scutiny of the DA's office.

It still remains to be see if he "serves" a day. This is the stage where high priced lawyers earn their keep, not in the preliminaries.

But regardless, as you say, what counts most here, on the indvidual's and NFL level, if not the societal, is a young man getting his life on track.

Or not.

 

[Ashwynn]

SB,

If he's convicted, I'll be sorry to see a young man with an incredible gift essentially throw away a dream life over misplaced machismo. If he's found not guilty, or pleads down to avoid jail time, I'll be "quite pleased" only IF the young man pulls his head out of his arse as a result, and shows his employers that he understands he's been given a second chance both at life and by the team.

No joke. For me this is about more than what team the kid happens to play for.

Well, while sad, I will not be sad for the punk named Sean Taylor. To qualify this I dont care if the punk is named ST or Roy Williams. Anyone that thinks they are above the law is a danger to all of us. What if he made a mistake and hit your house or my house. What is I was walking by when it happened, I could have been hurt or threatened.

No, any punk that decides his street cred is more important then the law, the safety of the general public is a danger to us all. It goes back to the gang banging days. How many innocent pple and more importantly children were hurt or killed because of the color of your shirt, the wheels on your car, the shoes on your feet or just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Gotta take all thuigs, gang bangers and other assorted bad guys off the streets.

The DWI did not teach him anything. He still thinks hes above the law I bet, He certainly did not consider the law or choose to ignore the legal implications of his actions,. This tells me he is a teen ager mentally, not mature and therefor at greater risk to go further then he already has gone the next time.

I hope this guy frys, at least 3 years and maybe 10 years in the pen. And again, I dont care if this punk is named Sean Taylor, Roger Staubach or Roy Williams. I am just glad this punk was not a cowboy. The fact hes a skin is just sweet irony.

 

[Om]

Several assumptions of facts not in evidence in that post, Ashwynn, but I don't disagree with the overall sentiment.

If NOTHING else, Sean has shown a disturbing lack of maturity and judgment. To the extent those things may have crossed the line to actual criminal behavior, he will deserve whatever punishment befalls him, as would any other criminal.

I'm just not prepared yet to convict him based on the precious little we actually know about this case. There's a bright line between being a knucklehead and a criminal ... and as of today, we don't have anywhere near enough to go on to decide he's crossed the line from the former to the latter.

 

[Vertigo_17]

he's an idiot and at a minimum this will serve as another distraction for the foreskins.

I venture to think that Campo had more control over his players than Gibbs is showing in DC right now.

 

[TheHustler]

hahahahaha. good.

 

[2much2soon]

I had to pop onto extremeskins and check out that thread.
Its amazing, with a few exceptions, how many skins's fans are still in denial about Taylor's situation.

 

[silverbear]

SB,

If he's convicted, I'll be sorry to see a young man with an incredible gift essentially throw away a dream life over misplaced machismo. If he's found not guilty, or pleads down to avoid jail time, I'll be "quite pleased" only IF the young man pulls his head out of his arse as a result, and shows his employers that he understands he's been given a second chance both at life and by the team.

No joke. For me this is about more than what team the kid happens to play for.

I believe you, Om, and I respect your position... for my part, I'm annoyed with him not because of what team he happens to play for, but mostly because (if he's guilty as charged), it's the actions of a sociopath...

 

[Reality]

Well, I wouldn't read much into him being "indicted" because it's rather easy to get an indictment against anyone. In some areas of the country, an indictment process is simply a formality.

 

[mbanx]

I really never cared for ST because he played for the Skins, that was it, but now after all the crap he pulled this offseason with not returning calls and wanting a new contract I have no sympathy. He never got off to a good start by walking out on the rookie symposium then getting arrested for DWI after these incidents I had a feeling he thought he was already in Canton and had some DPOTY awards under his belt. I like a humble player who is grounded and respects the game. To be a rookie and take the NFL life for granted burns me up and if you screw up well you had it coming.

 

[Shaun]

Criminal actions aside, a player that decides that he doesn't need to answer Joe Gibbs calls needs a lesson in humility.

 

[silverbear]

Well, I wouldn't read much into him being "indicted" because it's rather easy to get an indictment against anyone. In some areas of the country, an indictment process is simply a formality.

Reality, the significance of him being indicted is just a coupla days ago, the Washington Times was speculating that he wouldn't be... that's what his meeting with the prosecutors yesterday was intended to accomplish, to convince them that he was being falsely accused... of course, their source of that speculation was Taylor's lawyer, LOL...

 

[TheSkaven]

Let's wait until we here more facts, folks. If he did indeed leave the scene, return with a gun and fire it, then I agree with you. But his story is different and I believe he has a few witnesses that back up his tale. Let's get all the facts on the table.

 

[silverbear]

Let's wait until we here more facts, folks. If he did indeed leave the scene, return with a gun and fire it, then I agree with you. But his story is different and I believe he has a few witnesses that back up his tale. Let's get all the facts on the table.

The allegations have been pretty thoroughly documented by now, and from police spokespeople as well as the DA:

1) Sean is NOT accused of firing a weapon, but rather of threatening three people that he suspected stole 2 expensive ATVs he owned with a gun... if convicted of that, he'd face a mandatory 3 years in prison...

2) He left the scene after that, returning a short while later, at which point he apparently worked out his knuckles on one of the victims, while a friend who has also been charged with a crime allegedly chased another of the victims with a baseball bat... the misdemeanor charge of aggravated assault stems from this second incident...

3) He again left the scene with his buddies, and went over to some girl's house, at which point the folks he threatened and punched on apparently did a drive-by, and they ARE accused of discharging a weapon...

Now, we don't know if these allegations are TRUE or not, that will be decided in a court of law, but we surely do know what those specific allegations are...

As for his "witnesses", wanna bet they're all part of the posse he put together to go get his ATVs back?? It's also quite reasonable to suspect that Sean has offered them financial inducements to back his story up... at the very least, the DA seems to have been unimpressed with his alibis...

 

[mbanx]

I will be the first one to admit that sometimes I go off half cocked w/out knowing all the facts, but not to the point where I would pull a gun on somebody, I have been in a few jails and I enjoy life much better on the outside. One thing I would have if I was RICH and had some really nice vehicles is..... I can't think of what it is called now. Lowjack I think it is called doesnt that immobolize your vehicle if it gets stolen? Much better alternative than doing something dumb and risking what he has to lose.

PS BTW I am not some hardend criminal from the pen. but I have had my few brushes with the law where had I used common sense things would have worked out much better.

 

[Kangaroo]

If Taylor is guilty or not does not matter he has shown that he is nothing but an idiot and a pain in the arse. He is not worth the headache off the field for what he has done on the field.

Let see DWI; Skipped the meeting that warned him about doing the stupid things he has done and now the current talk. Tried to get a new contract after one year and he did nothing that was note worthy. Did he make the Pro Bowl or something.

He has acted like he is entitled to something he has not earned then when out and put himself into a situation he should have never been in.

Taylor is falling into that Jerk;loser class that waste their talents and win nothing (see Randy Moss)

 

[stag hunter]

sportstalk980 is reporting that he'll be in camp