More to Cromartie than just a CB/FS

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If we would happen to move to down to get a few more picks,Let me go on record now and say that Antonio Cromartie will be the steal of the draft.I wouln't be suprised if this is the guy, thats high on the Cowboys watch list.This guy is and will be a game breaker at the NFL level.At 6ft2in he can cover the prototypical NFL receivers,plus he is a burner.Me being a college football fan,noticed the change with FSU defense when he wasn't in the game.He would also make a great punt returner,something we have been lacking since the Deion Days.Well let me say the K-mart days for us old school guys.It's also been said that,Cromartie will be able to play some offense plays,which would give us another weapon on offense.
But then again,I was doing cart wheels when Dallas drafted Demarcus Ware instead of Shawn Merriman.But,I think that Ware will end up being the better pick anyways
 

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The problem is that the kid doesn't warrant a #18 pick and he'll be gone by time we pick in the second.

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1Ware1 said:
If we would happen to move to down to get a few more picks,Let me go on record now and say that Antonio Cromartie will be the steal of the draft.I wouln't be suprised if this is the guy, thats high on the Cowboys watch list.This guy is and will be a game breaker at the NFL level.At 6ft2in he can cover the prototypical NFL receivers,plus he is a burner.Me being a college football fan,noticed the change with FSU defense when he wasn't in the game.He would also make a great punt returner,something we have been lacking since the Deion Days.Well let me say the K-mart days for us old school guys.It's also been said that,Cromartie will be able to play some offense plays,which would give us another weapon on offense.
But then again,I was doing cart wheels when Dallas drafted Demarcus Ware instead of Shawn Merriman.But,I think that Ware will end up being the better pick anyways

the bold part answers your post SS, but i still dont think cromartie is that much better than what we can get in allen in the third, yes hes a risk but hes worth it in the 3rd. and come on now OLB and OT should be addressed before FS, IMO. this draft is heavy with OLB talent at the end of the first and early second, and heavy with OT in the 2nd. and there are various FS all around the board, i hope to see a 3rd round FS (Allen) come to us.
 

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bobbie brewskie said:
the bold part answers your post SS, but i still dont think cromartie is that much better than what we can get in allen in the third, yes hes a risk but hes worth it in the 3rd. and come on now OLB and OT should be addressed before FS, IMO. this draft is heavy with OLB talent at the end of the first and early second, and heavy with OT in the 2nd. and there are various FS all around the board, i hope to see a 3rd round FS (Allen) come to us.

Oops my bad.

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The hip thing with Allen scares the **** outta me though. The kids a DB not a D-lineman or a fullback. His hips are his life's blood in this game. The gamble (if it paid off) could have HUGE dividends, but the thought of another Dwayne Goodrich just plain sucks.

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I can relate when you say we need O-lineman,but when was the last 1st round draft pick that did well on the o-line?I haven't seen a first year,instant impact offensive lineman since Orlando Pace.Why hasn't anybody signed a Matt Stinchcolm?There is plenty of free agent lineman to fill needs left.To me offensive lineman are like fine wine,they need time to develope.
I would imagine that D'Brick and Winston will be gone by our pick.
 

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skinsscalper said:
The problem is that the kid doesn't warrant a #18 pick and he'll be gone by time we pick in the second.

SS

That would be the only situation were i wouldnt mind trading down. rather have lawson tho
 

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I would love Cromartie with the 18th.Sometimes you have to step out of the box and take a gamble.A special talent that would also give us a homerun type return game.
 

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rikolai said:
I would love Cromartie with the 18th.Sometimes you have to step out of the box and take a gamble.A special talent that would also give us a homerun type return game.


Thank you, this guy is the truth. 6'2 215 corners dont grow on trees.
 

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As a Cowboy fan I can tell you its a BIG risk. Its not like Ant. Cromartie (AC) was healthy his entire career before his knee injury in summer workouts prior to his JR year. The guy is a freak, a hard worker and somone that Mickey Andrews (if you don't know, he's put ALOT of DB's in the pros) fell in love with from day one due to his work ethic.

I guess if the DR's give the OK, he could be the steal of the draft. He's a top 5 pick talent.
 

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He interests me. That size/speed ratio is special, and on top of that, the guy can actually play the game.

With all of this talk about moving Henry to FS, this is one of the guys that I could see making enough sense to actually do that.
 

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BobbieBrewskie--are you talking about Jason Allen? In the 3rd?

There's no chance in hell he gets out of the 2nd, and he could even be drafted in the first.
 

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Jay said:
BobbieBrewskie--are you talking about Jason Allen? In the 3rd?

There's no chance in hell he gets out of the 2nd, and he could even be drafted in the first.

jason allen, without the hip injury is not a first rounder IMO. jason allen was at best a second rounder before his failed physicals. this guy is bound to fall, as a DB you dont hurt your hip and keep ur stock. do you not grasp the fact that hip injuries could end your career as a DB? and this is why i say he is a risk, dont get me wrong, he is immensly talented and definately worth a second round pick, but failing 2 physicals due to a HIP injury drops him down to the third round. i know kiper doesnt agree with me, but honestly kiper is a complete D-bag.

so, tell me im an idiot if allen goes in the first, dont say anything if he goes in the second and i dont care what you do if he goes in the third since i will know that i was right. nobody is going to risk a first round pick on a player who may be a complete bust due to a hip injury, and in the second - you can compare him to the safeties in that round and throw in the hip injury as a factor and that will tell them who to draft. now in the third, risk is not as much of a factor, as a matter of fact some teams may go for a bigger risk since the value in the third round has a huge range and somebody who you thought might be great will be a bust and viseversa.
 

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bobbie brewskie said:
the bold part answers your post SS, but i still dont think cromartie is that much better than what we can get in allen in the third, yes hes a risk but hes worth it in the 3rd. and come on now OLB and OT should be addressed before FS, IMO. this draft is heavy with OLB talent at the end of the first and early second, and heavy with OT in the 2nd. and there are various FS all around the board, i hope to see a 3rd round FS (Allen) come to us.

No kidding Einstein. The guy will be long gone by the third round and Cromratie would be be worth it in the third also:laugh2:
 

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I have a feeling Cromartie could go anywhere from 15-50 in this draft. Lots of teams likely don't have him on their board at all -- and some may have him pretty high. I am very concerned about the injury though -- not about him being healthy so much as him not playing very much because of it. lots of guys have looked great in a limited # of games then topped out in the senior years.

Does anyone know if we've had him in for a visit? it would seem that if you were looking at a guy with an injury that you'd want to get a close look.
 
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What do you mean lots of teams don't have him on their board? Have you been seeing the reports from scouts? He's on every teams board and he has top five talent
 

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WilmingtonHeel said:
What do you mean lots of teams don't have him on their board? Have you been seeing the reports from scouts? He's on every teams board and he has top five talent

Don't have him on their board is a term used to mean that a team won't take a guy -- obviously every team knows about him.

Many teams are not going to want him since he's coming off an injury and hasn't played very much. You never know what a guy would have done if he didn't miss his last year. I see him as having played too little to evaluate correctly enough to spend a 1st on.
 
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